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04-29-2011, 09:14 PM
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SO-CALLED PET OWNERS (a small rant)
Went online today figured I'd kill some time on kijiji, checked out the free stuff section and was appalled by how many pets were on there. the fact that a person can own a cat or dog for years and then just give it away because they are moving into a place that does not allow animals. Personally i own two cats and have paid more then 700 to have them be accepted in my apartment And have missed out on cheaper places because we have them. With that said I would never give them up i knew what i was getting into when we adopted them from the shelter. but for a person to own one long enough for it to become part of the family then just give it up I just find that very harsh to many people now-a-days have a pet for vanity. I know that there are alot of responsible pet owners out there but there should be some kind of screening for pet owners. Today we went to the local petsmart to look for a potential new cat (we dont own a place with a yard so a dog is out of the question) and there was this absolutly adorible cat where the owners took him in after two years of owning it to be neutered and never came back to pick him up if a person cant afford the odd $300 vet bill they should not own a pet. my one cat has a few health issues and in the last year we have spent more then 3000 on vet bills sure cash is nice but being able to provide a wonderful life to an animal that cant otherwise provide it for itself is just wonderful. I wish that people would take more consideration when thinking about a pet and that its more then "oh i just have to feed and water it" the average dogs lifespan is anywhere from 13-18 years and cats can live longer then 20 years, for alot of people thats longer then there kids live at home for!!!! Its not a small commitment owning a pet and I see so many strays every day it makes me absolutly sick to my stomach. Im glad that i know most hunters are respectful of animals and that if they do have pets they are well loved and cared for, I cant say that about much of the general public.
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04-29-2011, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by winger7mm
Went online today figured I'd kill some time on kijiji, checked out the free stuff section and was appalled by how many pets were on there. the fact that a person can own a cat or dog for years and then just give it away because they are moving into a place that does not allow animals. Personally i own two cats and have paid more then 700 to have them be accepted in my apartment And have missed out on cheaper places because we have them. With that said I would never give them up i knew what i was getting into when we adopted them from the shelter. but for a person to own one long enough for it to become part of the family then just give it up I just find that very harsh to many people now-a-days have a pet for vanity. I know that there are alot of responsible pet owners out there but there should be some kind of screening for pet owners. Today we went to the local petsmart to look for a potential new cat (we dont own a place with a yard so a dog is out of the question) and there was this absolutly adorible cat where the owners took him in after two years of owning it to be neutered and never came back to pick him up if a person cant afford the odd $300 vet bill they should not own a pet. my one cat has a few health issues and in the last year we have spent more then 3000 on vet bills sure cash is nice but being able to provide a wonderful life to an animal that cant otherwise provide it for itself is just wonderful. I wish that people would take more consideration when thinking about a pet and that its more then "oh i just have to feed and water it" the average dogs lifespan is anywhere from 13-18 years and cats can live longer then 20 years, for alot of people thats longer then there kids live at home for!!!! Its not a small commitment owning a pet and I see so many strays every day it makes me absolutly sick to my stomach. Im glad that i know most hunters are respectful of animals and that if they do have pets they are well loved and cared for, I cant say that about much of the general public.
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04-29-2011, 10:17 PM
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Agree 3 fold:
Sadly, a lot of inconsiderate losers out there just get the puppy or kitten or rabbit, etc, because it is so cute when it is young: once the animal is matured, then they dump it, because the novelty has worn off, and it isn't so "cute" anymore.
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04-29-2011, 10:21 PM
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Well put. I avoided pet ownership for YEARS because I wasn't "stable" - meaning, I was quite transient and couldn't provide a steady home. I'm now adopted by a border collie.
It really breaks my heart when I see ads like that. So many people don't think before they take an animal home.
I wish more people would spay/neuter, too. That, and keep their pets AT HOME. Lots of at large dogs here in FSJ.
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04-29-2011, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cattle Dog
Agree 3 fold:
Sadly, a lot of inconsiderate losers out there just get the puppy or kitten or rabbit, etc, because it is so cute when it is young: once the animal is matured, then they dump it, because the novelty has worn off, and it isn't so "cute" anymore.
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Sadly it isnt just pets. Its Marriages, Kids!
Yes to many these days kids are a novelty item. I know of a few children who have been treated this way by their parents.
We live in a society of quick, easy and cute.
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04-29-2011, 10:27 PM
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who cares about registering the dog/cat.
pet owners should be registered with courses and the like.
pets are luxury item, not a nescesitiy as some think.
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04-29-2011, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FishingMOM
...We live in a society of quick, easy and cute.
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Add to that self absorption and lack of regard for consequences.
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04-30-2011, 01:06 AM
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But if some one takes a stray a dog or cat that no one wants and eats it then every one wines and complains about it. when people quit treating animals better than people and remember were animals fit in the food chain then there would not be such a problem with unwanted pets.
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04-30-2011, 05:21 AM
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I would live in a culvert under the road before I would give up my friends Wiley and Bug.My 2 big dogs love and trust me completely and I could never live with myself if I let them down.
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04-30-2011, 07:23 AM
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At least , they're not dumping them in the country, or just moving on and leaving them behind. Lots of that
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04-30-2011, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
At least , they're not dumping them in the country, or just moving on and leaving them behind. Lots of that
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Okay well I do agree with that about them trying to find a new home giving the poor thing an actual chance. the people that dump there "pets"..... well i dont even know what say about them, anything that i can say online anyhow but here at home im saying lots. On a lighter note of a horrible story. very recently a couple was driving down hwy3 and the lady in front of them tossed a small puppy out the window. the couple stopped to save the dog, tried to catch up to the vehicle to get a plate number but they could not find it. they went on to the vet paid the bills to get the puppy up to snuff and now they own a new dog. need more compassionate people like them
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04-30-2011, 07:59 AM
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Totally agree
We have seven animals. A great dane, 2 poodles, 2 siamese, 1 bengal, and one blue abyssinian. We Live in a nice place, and the animals are a hoot, and a pain in the butt. I wouldn't trade any one of them. We put a little money away each month for vet bills should they arrive ( Thursday, $606.06 on a cat).
We spend a pile of money on feeding them. We trip over toys every time we step, even though we pick them up and put them in the basket 50 million times.
Then there's the hair that we vaccuum up each day. It's a tonne of work. But when your sitting down, and the dane decides that it's time for some affection, she gets it. Or when the cats run around like freaking horses, it makes you laugh and feel good,(until they knock your drink into the other room).
I'd move into our trailer before we got rid of an animal. Some people just don't see animals the same way, and that's too bad. There's no bad pets, just bad owners.
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04-30-2011, 08:39 AM
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We took in a Dog from Kijiji ( I refuse to pay for animals, there are so many that can be had for free) Now when we went to look for a Dog, my first question was is it trained, and every time i asked (except for the last one) the answer was no, that is why they are getting rid of the dog, they did not take the time to train it and treat it as a pet, and now its a pain in the arse. When we went to this young ladies house (to look at our current dog) she said yes she is trained, comes and gets you when its time to Pee or poo, comes when called, and knows plenty of tricks, only problem not socialised very well (humans not dogs, she loves other dogs) no problem we made her meet all sort of people and took her to dog socialisation classes.
That said when we left to take her home she was in tears, and was upset for a few days, she loved that dog, and just felt sorry for her cause she was unable to give her a real home (young renter hard to find a yard) and attention and time she needed.
The dog is a dachshund whippet mutt, that showed my buddies GSP, how flushing birds is really done (never taught her just took her along and she figured out that you get treats when you scare a bird into the air and when it falls attempt to bring it back) Now she chases all birds, but a whistle turns her. I could not imagine life with out her, he is such a nice puppy.
On the farm however our cat population is growing (most cats get brought to my uncles milking operation) more and more cats are being dropped off, so much in fact its 3 bags a cat feed a week, into the pig feeders, and a bit more milk during the morning milking for them too. My uncle has a soft heart for those things.
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04-30-2011, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
At least , they're not dumping them in the country, or just moving on and leaving them behind. Lots of that
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In eastern Canada there are many rampant wild dog packs (due to being able to hunt deer with dogs....they get lost....and pack up with others)....they bring down wildlife and have been known to attack people as well. From what I understand it is legal to shoot them on your own land at night if they are coming in.
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04-30-2011, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nick0danger
On the farm however our cat population is growing (most cats get brought to my uncles milking operation) more and more cats are being dropped off, so much in fact its 3 bags a cat feed a week, into the pig feeders, and a bit more milk during the morning milking for them too. My uncle has a soft heart for those things.
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Being a cat hoarder is not healthy either for those cats,does your uncle take them to the vet when they get sick? there must be some disease running thru the cat population.
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04-30-2011, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by sewerrat
Being a cat hoarder is not healthy either for those cats,does your uncle take them to the vet when they get sick? there must be some disease running thru the cat population.
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Its a milk farm there is a vet there all the time, my cousin is also vet assistant as well, when we notice something some cats do get put down (has not happened for some time) over winter the population will drop, i think it was 8 in march, now we are up to 30ish, they are outside cats that DONT go into homes, if we find a cat that wont make it (a house cat), they are brought to a rescue society.
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04-30-2011, 09:21 AM
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Sad thing is how many people apply human attributes to animals. Do you really think you can discern how an animal feels at one home or another? When I was a teen my mom and dad picked up two german shepherds and brought them out to the farm.They got them for free because a family was moving to California, but the funny thing is I don't think those two dogs minded one bit but then again Im not a dog.
Do I think those People that moved and gave up their dogs were in the wrong NO. My Family enjoyed those dogs for the rest of their canine years.
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04-30-2011, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nick0danger
Its a milk farm there is a vet there all the time, my cousin is also vet assistant as well, when we notice something some cats do get put down (has not happened for some time) over winter the population will drop, i think it was 8 in march, now we are up to 30ish, they are outside cats that DONT go into homes, if we find a cat that wont make it (a house cat), they are brought to a rescue society.
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I grew up on a dairy farm ( my bro runs it now) do you realy think the farmer/ owner calls a vet as soon there is a sick cat? The farmer makes money off his cows not the cats , and vets don't come cheap either.
besides 30 cats are way too many.
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04-30-2011, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sewerrat
I grew up on a dairy farm ( my bro runs it now) do you realy think the farmer/ owner calls a vet as soon there is a sick cat? The farmer makes money off his cows not the cats , and vets don't come cheap either.
besides 30 cats are way too many.
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Yeah years ago back on the farm alot of the times an un wanted litter was put in a sack and thrown in the river.
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04-30-2011, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mooseknuckle
Yeah years ago back on the farm alot of the times an un wanted litter was put in a sack and thrown in the river.
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Yup I remember that my grandmother used to do it , a sack with a brick and then the kittens or puppy's. but she did it as soon they were born, and at least before the baby's opend their eyes.
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04-30-2011, 11:52 AM
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Wife and I just moved into a new home this weekend. We are able and willing to take care of a pet. If sOmeone knows of a pet that could use a good home please let me know. We can go to a breeder. But if there is a pet out there in less than ideal conditions. We will provide lots of fishing and camping trips walks and tons of love. If you know of one that needs a hand up just let us know
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04-30-2011, 11:54 AM
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Wife and I just moved into a new home this weekend. We are able and willing to take care of a pet. If sOmeone knows of a pet that could use a good home please let me know. We can go to a breeder. But if there is a pet out there in less than ideal conditions. We will provide lots of fishing and camping trips walks and tons of love. If you know of one that needs a hand up just let us know
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What a guy!
And, good thread Winger
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04-30-2011, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by winger7mm
Went online today figured I'd kill some time on kijiji, checked out the free stuff section and was appalled by how many pets were on there. the fact that a person can own a cat or dog for years and then just give it away because they are moving into a place that does not allow animals. Personally i own two cats and have paid more then 700 to have them be accepted in my apartment And have missed out on cheaper places because we have them. With that said I would never give them up i knew what i was getting into when we adopted them from the shelter. but for a person to own one long enough for it to become part of the family then just give it up I just find that very harsh to many people now-a-days have a pet for vanity. I know that there are alot of responsible pet owners out there but there should be some kind of screening for pet owners. Today we went to the local petsmart to look for a potential new cat (we dont own a place with a yard so a dog is out of the question) and there was this absolutly adorible cat where the owners took him in after two years of owning it to be neutered and never came back to pick him up if a person cant afford the odd $300 vet bill they should not own a pet. my one cat has a few health issues and in the last year we have spent more then 3000 on vet bills sure cash is nice but being able to provide a wonderful life to an animal that cant otherwise provide it for itself is just wonderful. I wish that people would take more consideration when thinking about a pet and that its more then "oh i just have to feed and water it" the average dogs lifespan is anywhere from 13-18 years and cats can live longer then 20 years, for alot of people thats longer then there kids live at home for!!!! Its not a small commitment owning a pet and I see so many strays every day it makes me absolutly sick to my stomach. Im glad that i know most hunters are respectful of animals and that if they do have pets they are well loved and cared for, I cant say that about much of the general public.
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When I was in Grade 7, there was this grey male stray cat that my Sister and brother had come up to them all deparate and cold while in the school yard. We picked up the cat, tried to phone the adress the ear number said and apparently that adress didn't exist anymore. We later apoted the cat and he still happily lives with us. When my sister wen't over to visit one of their friends, they had a very simular looking cat. My mom then asked the mother if they were missing a grey male stray cat and they said no. The cat we adopted, had a broken leg so my mom brought it up about the broken leg and found out and the mother replied saying in a seemingly cold tone it will be about $700.00 to fix a broken. I have a feeling it was that familly that was that were the iresponsible losers that left that grey male stray out there to freeze.
There was also this other time when I was 14 and there was this highly obnoxious women that was the mother of another one of my sister's friends. Afterwards, this seemingly tyranic women would lock some of her cats into sheds and let them starve to death. She also decided to starve many new born kittens and the mother cats just to save a couple bucks for her greedy self. After my mom heard about this, we never spoke to her again.
I sure hope that "winner" gets what is comin to her.
As for all of the cats I own, they are all adopted strays from around my neighbourhood that have all been fixed through a program named S.N.A.P.
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04-30-2011, 04:29 PM
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Bad Grammar Mistake In my last Post
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Originally Posted by Jwood 456
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When I was in Grade 7, there was this grey male stray cat that my Sister and brother had come up to them all deparate and cold while in the school yard. We picked up the cat, tried to phone the adress the ear number said and apparently that adress didn't exist anymore. We later apoted the cat and he still happily lives with us. When my sister wen't over to visit one of their friends, they had a very simular looking cat. My mom then asked the mother if they were missing a grey male stray cat and they said no. The cat we adopted, had a broken leg so my mom brought it up about the broken leg and found out and the mother replied saying in a seemingly cold tone it will be about $700.00 to fix a broken. I have a feeling it was that familly that was that were the iresponsible losers that left that grey male stray out there to freeze.
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Ouch, I think I need to regrammar my paragraph.
It should go like this
"When I was in Grade 7, there was this grey male stray cat that my Sister and brother had come up to them all deparate and cold while in the school yard. We picked up the cat, tried to phone the adress the ear number said and apparently that adress didn't exist anymore. We later apoted the cat and he still happily lives with us. When my sister wen't over to visit one of her friends, they had a very simular looking cat. My mom then asked the mother of the friend if they were missing a grey male stray cat and they said no. The cat we adopted, had a broken leg so my mom brought it up about the broken leg and the mother of my sister's friend replied quickly in a seemingly cold tone it will be about $700.00 to fix a broken leg. I have a feeling it was that familly that was that were the iresponsible losers that left that grey male stray out there to freeze."
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04-30-2011, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sewerrat
I grew up on a dairy farm ( my bro runs it now) do you realy think the farmer/ owner calls a vet as soon there is a sick cat? The farmer makes money off his cows not the cats , and vets don't come cheap either.
besides 30 cats are way too many.
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x2 the dairy farm was only 7 miles town and we would go from 1 cat to 60 in about 3 months use to just shoot them every 3months people wuold just drop them off thinking that we needed cats to control mice the cats were worse than the mice. and as for a vet they were only called if the cow had something that we never seen before most times we treated the animals our self. had 3 vet books cuold fine most things in thier.
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04-30-2011, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jts1
Wife and I just moved into a new home this weekend. We are able and willing to take care of a pet. If sOmeone knows of a pet that could use a good home please let me know. We can go to a breeder. But if there is a pet out there in less than ideal conditions. We will provide lots of fishing and camping trips walks and tons of love. If you know of one that needs a hand up just let us know
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A good suggestion to you would be to check out your local animal shelter (a no kill) and save a dog from them, more then likley you will not be able to get a pure breed but almost every dog can be trained for what you want it. also those animals are usually spayed or neutered. the shelters are usually run from volunteers and donations. sure if you take one from them usually two more take its place. but it makes a world of difference to an animal that lives in a small cage at the shelter to be taken to a proper home. they will provide love for ever!! personally I boycott petstores that sell dogs and cats, their are plenty of shelter animals that are very inexpensive and its funds to help with the shelter operation.
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