125gr vs 100gr

45-70sapper · #1 10-30-2014, 09:29 PM

I was thinking about switching from 100gr field points and broadheads to 125gr to add a little more weight. I know it'll change my FOC and spine but my arrows are still good for that (maxima red 350s). Just wondering if there's any other differences between 100gr and 125gr or if it's simply just a little more weight.

338Bluff · #2 10-31-2014, 12:20 AM

how long are your arrows?

Mike_W · #3 10-31-2014, 04:53 AM

Depending on broad head they could have a longer profile or a larger cutting diameter.

L.O.S.T.Arrow · #4 10-31-2014, 07:39 AM

For some it does wonders as it adds weight forward...
using a same brand they usually are close to length and may be 1/8 wider cut...

POI [point of impact] is also usually close...at 20 yards minimal for most 30yd may be an inch 40yd two inch etc

Best thing to do is practise with them to see how they fly at all distances you shoot.

It will add to penertration due to added weight of arrow...

I use them for that reason on elk

Neil

Lefty-Canuck · #5 10-31-2014, 07:43 AM

I made the switch from 125s to 100s for a bit more speed (I know it isn't much). I have yet to have an issue with penetration getting complete pass throughs on the last two elk I have shot using grim reaper heads...one bow was a 60lb Destroyer 350 and the other is a 70lb Invasion both using the same 385gr arrow...125s put that arrow at 410ish.

LC

L.O.S.T.Arrow · #6 10-31-2014, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I made the switch from 125s to 100s for a bit more speed (I know it isn't much). I have yet to have an issue with penetration getting complete pass throughs on the last two elk I have shot using grim reaper heads...one bow was a 60lb Destroyer 350 and the other is a 70lb Invasion both using the same 385gr arrow...125s put that arrow at 410ish.

LC

I agree...both the 100gr and 125 gr broadhead put in the exact same place, under exact same conditions on any animal is most likely going to end up in the exact same results...

My arrows just fly best with the weight forward aspect.

Neil

SonofDixie · #7 10-31-2014, 07:54 AM

I have seen a 200grain broadhead. The grizzlystik line. What would the benefits of that be?? And what would be required to shoot a 200g?

Lefty-Canuck · #8 10-31-2014, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by L.O.S.T.Arrow

I agree...both the 100gr and 125 gr broadhead put in the exact same place, under exact same conditions on any animal is most likely going to end up in the exact same results...

My arrows just fly best with the weight forward aspect.

Neil

FOC is definitely something to keep and eye on and field test out to all distances you might shoot.

LC

L.O.S.T.Arrow · #9 10-31-2014, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SonofDixie

I have seen a 200grain broadhead. The grizzlystik line. What would the benefits of that be?? And what would be required to shoot a 200g?

Heads like that are generally used by traditional long bow/recurve shooters for deep penetration at short range...used with a super heavy arrow like a 600 gr arrow...

Also Used for bone busting heavy/dangerous African game like elephant...

Neil

Bowhntr4life · #10 10-31-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike_W

Depending on broad head they could have a longer profile or a larger cutting diameter.

x2. More weight= more blade diamater and surface area.

SonofDixie · #11 10-31-2014, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by L.O.S.T.Arrow

Heads like that are generally used by traditional long bow/recurve shooters for deep penetration at short range...used with a super heavy arrow like a 600 gr arrow...

Also Used for bone busting heavy/dangerous African game like elephant...

Neil

Would it be out of place to use it in a compound? What would be the results.

L.O.S.T.Arrow · #12 10-31-2014, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SonofDixie

Would it be out of place to use it in a compound? What would be the results.

They can be used with compound ...again with heavy arrow also used for bone busting heavy/dangerous African game like elephant..

Would result in a slow hard hitting arrow...would drop faster so close range is desired...but they should fly great!

Here in Alberta an 125gr or even the 100 gr will take any animal we have including grizzly with approrite well tuned weight arrow...

Neil

45-70sapper · #13 10-31-2014, 11:25 AM

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338Bluff how long are your arrows?

I have a 28" draw with 30" arrows

ThreeD · #14 10-31-2014, 08:12 PM

I switched to 100's a several years ago...and rather quickly switched back to 125's. My arrows just fly better with the additional FOC, plus I use heavier fletchings (5 inch Shrinkwraps...my ugly cookie never liked the Blazers).

Who doesn't like extra KE and penetration.

calgarychef · #15 11-01-2014, 01:25 AM

All you're talking about is 25 more grains that ain't squat and you shouldn't bother with it. If you. Want real penetration and are willing to put in the time with some experimenting then got for 250 or 300 grain heads but really that's for deep penetration for game that doesn't exist in alberta....

ThreeD · #16 11-01-2014, 08:47 AM

25 extra grains will give you an additional 5 foot- lbs of KE, given the same arrow speed.

Alberta Bigbore · #17 11-01-2014, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I made the switch from 125s to 100s for a bit more speed (I know it isn't much). I have yet to have an issue with penetration getting complete pass throughs on the last two elk I have shot using grim reaper heads...one bow was a 60lb Destroyer 350 and the other is a 70lb Invasion both using the same 385gr arrow...125s put that arrow at 410ish.

LC

I passed through my moose with 85 gr reapers.

petew · #18 11-01-2014, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ThreeD

25 extra grains will give you an additional 5 foot- lbs of KE, given the same arrow speed.

If you add 25 gr, the speed will be slower .

LA_bowhunter · #19 11-03-2014, 08:49 AM

I would add weight to the insert rather than the head. Gives the same result and 100 grain broadheads are more readily available. Higher FOC is beneficial for arrow flight and energy at impact. 2 very desirable results with very little effect on arrow speed.

L.O.S.T.Arrow · #20 11-03-2014, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LA_bowhunter

I would add weight to the insert rather than the head. Gives the same result and 100 grain broadheads are more readily available. Higher FOC is beneficial for arrow flight and energy at impact. 2 very desirable results with very little effect on arrow speed.

This is best suggestion ...weighted inserts are easy to install...some will even screw into back of existing insert in different weights...can also be stacked for any weight you desire

http://search.3riversarchery.com/arc...-Arrow-Inserts

Neil

newfie bullet · #21 11-04-2014, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by L.O.S.T.Arrow

Heads like that are generally used by traditional long bow/recurve shooters for deep penetration at short range...used with a super heavy arrow like a 600 gr arrow...

Also Used for bone busting heavy/dangerous African game like elephant...

Neil

I watched a guy from texas this fall kill a bull moose with 210 grain grizzlystik broad heads on grizzly stik arrows with a 70 # hoyt . At 75 yards went clean through rib cage and broke off rib on the way out. never did find the arrow. he could put 3 arrows in a 6 inch bulls eye at 100 yards all day! not something I would try , if I didn't see it happen I wouldn't believe it
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