Firearms executor

dgl1948 · #1 10-21-2022, 11:31 AM

Anyone have experience with RCMP form 6016? Do you get a confirmation from the firearms centre? Do you get something so you can show the RCMP so you can claim the firearms they are holding?

Stinky Buffalo · #2 10-21-2022, 01:24 PM

I think the first issue is - how did the RCMP get them in the first place? The Executor can hold the firearms for a reasonable amount of time, even if the executor is unlicensed.

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Even if you do not have a licence to have firearms, you can have a firearm left in an estate for a reasonable amount of time while the estate is being settled. If a court has prohibited you from possessing firearms, you cannot take possession of firearms left in an estate. But you are still able to act as executor and you can transfer the firearms to someone who can lawfully have them.

Have you tried calling the number they put on the form? It may take some time to get through nowadays...

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If you need help completing this form or require another form call 1 800 731-4000.

Arctic · #3 10-21-2022, 02:09 PM

Get a copy of form 6016, complete it along with copies of the death certificate and will, then send it in. Eventually you'll get a letter designating you as executor for the firearms so you can dispose of them. As executor you can take possession immediately and after the letter, they can be disposed of following the normal laws.
This should take about a month, ..... have done it several times.
The RCMP have no right to confiscate the firearms as the executor replaces the original PAL holder. Do the paperwork and show it to them, they have to return the firearms.
Oh, and the executor has a "reasonable" length of time to hold the firearms for disposal that often is years, and executor rights overrides today's announcement, ...... maybe the firearms will be sold stateside?

dgl1948 · #4 10-22-2022, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic

Get a copy of form 6016, complete it along with copies of the death certificate and will, then send it in. Eventually you'll get a letter designating you as executor for the firearms so you can dispose of them. As executor you can take possession immediately and after the letter, they can be disposed of following the normal laws.
This should take about a month, ..... have done it several times.
The RCMP have no right to confiscate the firearms as the executor replaces the original PAL holder. Do the paperwork and show it to them, they have to return the firearms.
Oh, and the executor has a "reasonable" length of time to hold the firearms for disposal that often is years, and executor rights overrides today's announcement, ...... maybe the firearms will be sold stateside?

It has been about six weeks since paperwork was sent in. On RCMP we sight it says nothing about getting a letter. I will contact our Chief Firearms Officer and see if they are able to to a follow up. Thanks for your info.

dgl1948 · #5 10-22-2022, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo

I think the first issue is - how did the RCMP get them in the first place? The Executor can hold the firearms for a reasonable amount of time, even if the executor is unlicensed.

Have you tried calling the number they put on the form? It may take some time to get through nowadays...

The RCMP attended a sudden death incident at a home. They will take firearms when this happens. The individual lived alone and died of medical complications.

Big Grey Wolf · #6 10-22-2022, 10:19 AM

New question, with the Turd now making it illegal to transfer/sell handguns, what happens when Executor tries to clear up an estate?

MooseRiverTrapper · #7 10-22-2022, 10:34 AM

Honest question for a friend. What if you said I don’t know what grandpa did with his old handguns, he was always saying he was going to cut them into scrap. Haven’t seen them in years….

Ebrand · #8 10-22-2022, 01:45 PM

If you are licenced for the firearms and can show you are the executor you should not need to be designated under the Firearms Act to possess the firearms for the purpose of fulfilling the estate.

roper1 · #9 10-22-2022, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper

Honest question for a friend. What if you said I don’t know what grandpa did with his old handguns, he was always saying he was going to cut them into scrap. Haven’t seen them in years….

Grandpa's going to have a lot of misplaced guns. If any cop has the time to fiddle around with non-crime related guns, they're lying to us how busy they are

dgl1948 · #10 10-22-2022, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebrand

If you are licenced for the firearms and can show you are the executor you should not need to be designated under the Firearms Act to possess the firearms for the purpose of fulfilling the estate.

It in this case the executor is an 80 year old lady and is not licensed.

Arctic · #11 10-23-2022, 03:20 PM

The executor assumes the power of the deceased's PAL, whether she is licensed or not.
If she does want the possession, she can request from the CFO they be stored with someone licensed and they can hold for dispersal "for a reasonable length of time", which can be years.
Now, if she passes, it would be up to her executor to assume her powers as executor and eventually "dispose" of them in a "reasonable" length of time!
So, I believe they don't really have to be turned in!