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I am perplexed by the lack of response from the Palestinian people in Gaza.
1.1 Million have been told to leave the northern area to avoid civilian casualties when Israel enters Gaza to eliminate HAMAS.
Wouldn't 1.1 Million people in such a small area have an idea who was the HAMAS members, where the hostages are, and where HAMAS is?
It's as simple as a will to disassociate from HAMAS so that the Palestinians can be free from the terror within.
So why is it that none of the Palestinians simply tell the IDF who they are looking for, where they can be found, and where the Hostages are?
The IDF will be grateful, the World will be grateful, and of course the Palestinians will be grateful as they will avoid a dire consequence, and have the water and power restored.
Instead of this logical action, Palestinians around the world are protesting the actions of Israel for the actions of HAMAS?
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IDF tanks moving into Gaza now. It’s started.
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Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck
I am perplexed by the lack of response from the Palestinian people in Gaza.
1.1 Million have been told to leave the northern area to avoid civilian casualties when Israel enters Gaza to eliminate HAMAS.
Wouldn't 1.1 Million people in such a small area have an idea who was the HAMAS members, where the hostages are, and where HAMAS is?
It's as simple as a will to disassociate from HAMAS so that the Palestinians can be free from the terror within.
So why is it that none of the Palestinians simply tell the IDF who they are looking for, where they can be found, and where the Hostages are?
The IDF will be grateful, the World will be grateful, and of course the Palestinians will be grateful as they will avoid a dire consequence, and have the water and power restored.
Instead of this logical action, Palestinians around the world are protesting the actions of Israel for the actions of HAMAS?
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You would never find all of the Hamas terrorists, because many have likely already fled Gaza, and if the surviving members of Hamas found out who cooperated with Israel, they would likely have their entire families murdered.
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Hamas gave a direction to citizens to not evacuate but stay put.
They are cowards
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Unfortunately, this is the type of scum that we allow to come to Canada, and Toronto has become the cesspool of Canada.
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I remember seeing a hat years ago that said "the only thing good that comes out of the east is the sun!!
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Hamas gave a direction to citizens to not evacuate but stay put.
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If you read the BBC article, the entrances to their tunnel network are concealed in schools and Mosques. Flatten a mosque and every Moslem in the world is offended.
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Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck
I am perplexed by the lack of response from the Palestinian people in Gaza.
1.1 Million have been told to leave the northern area to avoid civilian casualties when Israel enters Gaza to eliminate HAMAS.
Wouldn't 1.1 Million people in such a small area have an idea who was the HAMAS members, where the hostages are, and where HAMAS is?
So why is it that none of the Palestinians simply tell the IDF who they are looking for, where they can be found, and where the Hostages are?
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My guess is that at least 50% of them or more in Gaza are in some way related to or know a Hamas member be it a father,uncle,brother,friend,neighbor,etc and they ain’t going to give them up to Israel.
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Hamas gave a direction to citizens to not evacuate but stay put.
They are cowards
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Just like the Ukrainians.
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Just like the Ukrainians.
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The pro-Putin antisemite is really stretching now.
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My guess is that at least 50% of them or more in Gaza are in some way related to or know a Hamas member be it a father,uncle,brother,friend,neighbor,etc and they ain’t going to give them up to Israel.
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And therein lies the problem for the Palestinians. If they want to support HAMAS by refusing to identify HAMAS members, they are in turn complicit with the actions of HAMAS.
It is so easy to avoid the consequences, and the Palestinians know it.
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And therein lies the problem for the Palestinians. If they want to support HAMAS by refusing to identify HAMAS members, they are in turn complicit with the actions of HAMAS.
It is so easy to avoid the consequences, and the Palestinians know it.
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One day you would think hey guys can you put those fire works some were else cause when you let that go it’s not going to be good. They will never learn.
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Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck
And therein lies the problem for the Palestinians. If they want to support HAMAS by refusing to identify HAMAS members, they are in turn complicit with the actions of HAMAS.
It is so easy to avoid the consequences, and the Palestinians know it.
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If you live in Gaza, support of Hamas is not an option, it's enforced at the point of a gun.
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CBC Gets Blasted
This video of CBC Power and Politics getting corrected/lectured/dressed-down is pure gold.
IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus completely destroys the bleeding heart CBC liberal media in this interview. Reporter Paul Hunter and anchor David Cochrane were on a roll trying to paint the Gaza Palestinians and Hamas as victims, especially the bleeding heart champion of all time - Paul Hunter.
Here is what happens when a smart man with a real backbone stands up to the liberal narrative that they so often get away with by controlling the microphone and the questions. IDF Conricus doesn't take the CBC's pathetic bait for one sec!
The real fireworks start at 4:45. Worth the watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF0QHefCyyA
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The pro-Putin antisemite is really stretching now.
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thanks for the video I liked it a lot
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This video of CBC Power and Politics getting corrected/lectured/dressed-down is pure gold.
IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus completely destroys the bleeding heart CBC liberal media in this interview. Reporter Paul Hunter and anchor David Cochrane were on a roll trying to paint the Gaza Palestinians and Hamas as victims, especially the bleeding heart champion of all time - Paul Hunter.
Here is what happens when a smart man with a real backbone stands up to the liberal narrative that they so often get away with by controlling the microphone and the questions. IDF Conricus doesn't take the CBC's pathetic bait for one sec!
The real fireworks start at 4:45. Worth the watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF0QHefCyyA
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That made my day!!!
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Originally Posted by AxeMan
This video of CBC Power and Politics getting corrected/lectured/dressed-down is pure gold.
IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus completely destroys the bleeding heart CBC liberal media in this interview. Reporter Paul Hunter and anchor David Cochrane were on a roll trying to paint the Gaza Palestinians and Hamas as victims, especially the bleeding heart champion of all time - Paul Hunter.
Here is what happens when a smart man with a real backbone stands up to the liberal narrative that they so often get away with by controlling the microphone and the questions. IDF Conricus doesn't take the CBC's pathetic bait for one sec!
The real fireworks start at 4:45. Worth the watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF0QHefCyyA
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Excellent video, Paul Hunter is a total idiot, typical of the CBC.
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Excellent video, Paul Hunter is a total idiot, typical of the CBC.
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No angels on either side in this situation, there are "reports" of Hamas blocking evacuees, the one report of the evacuees getting hit by airstrikes. Sounds similar to the Mariupol evac stories to some extent, one side blamed the Ukes for opening fire, other side blamed the Russians. Organized confusion, generated by both sides, lots of outside sources generating propaganda for both sides.
It is said IDF will cut off all internet in Gaza today, Al Jazzeera banned in Israel now.
Ryan MacBeth ( on a paid Substack acct) got hold of Hamas operational documents that I've seen shown elsewhere in on the ground reporting. They *appear to be the plans for one of the breach points, layout of the mission, participants, operational orders, and there was no mention of anything in the documents related to the wellbeing of anyone involved in that mission, it was a very well organized, dedicated suicide mission, specific objective in this case was a kibbutz. They listed size, type of response times of various forces in the area, noted traffic speeding/cams that may be used dual purpose for observation, ground radar capabilities, what streets the response would most likely take to get to the breach point and kibbutz. Even had mention of "taking care" of people captured, estimated *how many armed civilian in the area.
It outlined, with pics, weak points on armor, even reactive armor, types of weapons to be used.
They are very well organized. (Paid subscription link )
https://ryanmcbeth.substack.com/p/in...&r=1gndp6#play
And at the same time, another Substack acct, Sarcastosaurus (Tom Cooper) based out of Austria, book publisher on various things military, mentioning that the IDF doesn't really have enough SOF to take on the type of mission they are taking on, and the IAF is creating another scenario of the airstrikes creating more defendable ambush points for Hamas to work out of. That opnion makes sense in that a person only needs to look at what is being done in Ukraine to see the results of it. Then, there are the tunnels, IDF has no real idea of how many, or where they all are, or what is in them altogether.
(free acct)
https://xxtomcooperxx.substack.com/?...m_medium=email
Another one I saw on YT, outlined the way the Kurds had dug tunnels in northern Iraq and Syria and illustrated what could be done there, they virtually had underground bases, living quarters with TV, hospitals, running water and electricity, comms centres. Some serious stuff, that Hamas has had time to build in Gaza, and what the IDF could be facing. These guys were up to 1/4 mile underground, mile long tunnels dug in two weeks, didn't even know they were being bombed unless someone that was outside told them. (can't find the link to that one again, nd forgot the name)
Shades of Vietnam *and the tunnel systems there come to mind
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That Mayor's speech certainly resonates in many ways.
Then you see stuff like this from London, just a link to the named publisher, there is a vid there of some radicals talking to police about the use of dogs against them
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.IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus completely destroys the bleeding heart CBC liberal media in this interview. ....
The real fireworks start at 4:45. Worth the watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF0QHefCyyA
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Thanks for posting. CBC is governed by anti-semitic commies. When Alberta secedes - and it will - we will no longer have to feed those leeches.
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IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus.
Is hard to argue with. He may be hard to fight too. What a leader.
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If you live in Gaza, support of Hamas is not an option, it's enforced at the point of a gun.
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then why live in Gaza
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Found the link to the Kurdish tunnels vid I watched. IDF coul be in for a tough ride if Hamas has been digging like these guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RFnnwUjIdw
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Reports of HAMA'S killing own people trying to flee to south . want Israel to get blamed for it or to also stop people from leaving area.
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So, Israelis are supposed to have bombed the Salah Al Deen Gaza Wadi bridge, that was crowded with vehicles heading south. There is a vid published by Times of Israel, showing the explosion, that I have on my Twitter/ X feed, from Osint Technical, with some analysis of it. General opinion in comments, is it was a Vbied set off in the vehicle or maybe a remote IED in the bridge, not a dumb bomb or JDAM, explosion is too small for one thing, and it is generating from either the LH side of, or under the LH side car, like it was an IED.
Appears that is how Hamas is now helping the Palestinians, according to the analysis.
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As long as they don't expect to send Canadian boys over there to risk their lives, they can kill the living daylights out of each other as in biblical times and ever since for all I care.
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And you wonder why we should be able to keep all our guns of any sort. You want to invade me and my home land. I will stand true. Arm all to protect all. RED DAWN
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Check out the American battle for Iwo Jima, similar scenario. Took a month and cost over 24000 lives. Napalm was part of the solution, inject and ignite.
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