Anyone else trying to buy a rifle from Dave barry?

Homesteader · #1 07-19-2018, 09:31 AM

Just wondering if anyone else is having any luck buying any of the rifles listed by this member?

Zero feed back score, but just looking for any other info, positive, or other wise.

My experience to date is slow communication, with minimal information. I did get a text, with pics. When I tried to call the number I got a message that said it was a text mail subscriber?

Here's what google says about that:

https://www.google.ca/search?source=....0.iir4ROLeyxU

I'm not saying good or bad right now, just sharing info with my membership on here.

Feel free to pm or just post.

Dean2 · #2 07-19-2018, 09:54 AM

Zero feedback, reach by text only, slow communicator. Let me See

No way in hell would I buy from someone with zero feedback unless I could do it face to face. Anything else is just asking to get ripped off.

heybert · #3 07-19-2018, 10:40 AM

I'd shy away too. I was going to ask a buddy in PG if he knew a guy by that name since my buddy's quite active in the shooting sports in PG. But decided I didn't need another AV in .338.

JD848 · #4 07-19-2018, 10:55 AM

One of the first things I do is try and check out who this guy is and is it really him..I ask for a home number and look up his number and last name on google.Somtimes you can get a job profile exactly where he lives and who has died near him listing the folks that maybe his parents or bros.

He could be a coach of some sport team or belong to a major gun club where awards are given and the list goes on and on and maybe a criminal.I have done two deals with guys with no credit rating.but made them bring the firearm to someone I knew or drop it of at a hunting store that knew me well,sliding someone 50 or100 bucks for there trouble sometimes works.

If I wasn't a 100 percent sure on who he was I would walk away.

The worst deals I ever made were with 2 guys who had I trader ratings over 800,they just buy them and move them with zero knowledge of the firearm ,then you take your chances also.

stob · #5 07-19-2018, 11:12 AM

Thx everyone, I have dealt with "0" ratings guys b4 with no issues ... but my spidey senses were tingling here ... best to listen to your gut

sns2 · #6 07-19-2018, 11:19 AM

BUYER BEWARE

Lots of good advice. Heed it. Forum can't really do anything if you get shafted.

rpcw · #7 07-19-2018, 11:34 AM

0 feedback here doesn’t mean much.

I’m one of those guys and have bought several rifles on here. Never post stuff though because I usually sell on the “other” board.

Just don’t bother with the ratings system on this board. Not really sure why....

See how long he has been a member.

Talk to the guy and verify his PAL with RCMP before doing deal. As others said check him out. Verifiable home address is helpful.

The flag to me is the crappy comm’s. What’s with that?

Homesteader · #8 07-19-2018, 12:30 PM

I definitely agree with everyone’s posts, and not too worry, I’m definitely not out any money, or critical personal information.

I’m just doing my due diligence, and at the same time if member is a scammer, more people are aware. It will all come out eventually. He may be a standup guy, I’m not saying he isn’t. Just looking for anyone else who’s talked to him, done a deal with him, or even knows him personally. If he’s on the up and up, he’ll post on this thread I’d think. I’ve dealt with many new guys with no rating. A zero feedback rating may just mean he doesn’t suffer from the same issues I do

Groundhogger · #9 07-19-2018, 01:45 PM

Having been ripped-off before...the first thing I ask for are photos of the item in question, and included IN the photos is a piece of paper with today's date, and YOUR name clearly written on them. If "sellers" have even a shred of hesitation to do that, it's a "hard no" for me.

On the other big Canadian gun site..I usually trust a seller's trader rating if there are more than about 20-30 transactions, and feedback is perfect. Even then, I listen to the "tone" of the messages. If they're willing to provide as many photos/details as I ask for=all good. If they get *****ly about it, I take that as a bit of a red flag.

Lastly, there is one province in Canada that seems to have more than it's share of scams...so I'm reluctant to deal with sellers there. Personal preference.

brendan's dad · #10 07-20-2018, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rpcw

0 feedback here doesn’t mean much.

I’m one of those guys and have bought several rifles on here. Never post stuff though because I usually sell on the “other” board.

Just don’t bother with the ratings system on this board. Not really sure why....

See how long he has been a member.

Talk to the guy and verify his PAL with RCMP before doing deal. As others said check him out. Verifiable home address is helpful.

The flag to me is the crappy comm’s. What’s with that?

THIS..... If I am the buyer or seller I will ask for PAL info prior to even discussing price or shipping. I ask for name and PAL #, no need for date of birth or address. I then call NB and do a PAL valid check... I do this for non-restricted, restricted or prohibited. If the potential seller/buyer refuses, then the deal ends there. This 100% weeds out the fraudsters.

Homesteader · #11 07-20-2018, 08:35 AM

Good on you WF65, hope it’s a smooth deal.

Maybe you got better communication then I did, but it wasn’t what I was comfortable with. Good luck.

elkhunter11 · #12 07-20-2018, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by brendan's dad

THIS..... If I am the buyer or seller I will ask for PAL info prior to even discussing price or shipping. I ask for name and PAL #, no need for date of birth or address. I then call NB and do a PAL valid check... I do this for non-restricted, restricted or prohibited. If the potential seller/buyer refuses, then the deal ends there. This 100% weeds out the fraudsters.

One of the scams people have been using, is to use other people's PAL numbers and names to complete online firearms deals. You can verify if the PAL is valid, but you don't know, if the holder is the person you are buying from. If people are freely giving out their name and PAL number online to strangers, they open themselves up to this risk.

sailor · #13 08-02-2018, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rpcw

0 feedback here doesn’t mean much.

I’m one of those guys and have bought several rifles on here. Never post stuff though because I usually sell on the “other” board.

Just don’t bother with the ratings system on this board. Not really sure why....

See how long he has been a member.

Talk to the guy and verify his PAL with RCMP before doing deal. As others said check him out. Verifiable home address is helpful.

The flag to me is the crappy comm’s. What’s with that?

Since when buyer requests seller PAL ( RPAL)?
Be law only seller has to make sure the buyer has valid PAL

heybert · #14 08-03-2018, 11:27 PM

WeatherbyFan65
Could you pm me please. I can't seem to pm you.

Dave barry · #15 07-20-2018, 02:56 PM

So straight up. I am not here to steal from anybody. Few guys contacted me, they asked for all kinds of pictures which I provided. I even went as far as putting a note with a name of a buyer by the side of the rifle just as requested just to show that I am legit. Some were trying to price me down with ridiculous offers so I just ignored. I sincerely understand the point at which many people are coming from. I SOLD the Montana to weatherby65 already. I appreciate your trust and understanding. I know that everyone with trader ratings started from zero ratings. and I also know this will be the beginning of mine. Am out of here.

Thank you all

Dean2 · #16 07-20-2018, 03:45 PM

Nothing wrong with doing deals with guys that have zero ratings as long as you can do the deal face to face or have soemone you know transact the deal for you in the other city. For those that are new and offended that we don't trust someone with no trader rating, sorry but with the huge amount of internet fraud, thems the breaks. You need to build your credentials before I am just going to EMT you a grand and trust you are legit.

To each their own but to be offended that their is a lack of trust dealing with people we have never met, new to AO and new to trading is just childish.

Smokinyotes · #17 07-20-2018, 03:46 PM

So there ya go HOMESTEADER, you were just being ignored cause ya were trying to low ball him. Loosen those purse strings a little buddy. Ya can’t take it with ya. Lol

Homesteader · #18 07-20-2018, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

So there ya go HOMESTEADER, you were just being ignored cause ya were trying to low ball him. Loosen those purse strings a little buddy. Ya can’t take it with ya. Lol

I'm tapped, can you spot me a $100 till payday

Good to see the seller post on here, and hope he has a lot of good transactions, and feedback.

Big Bull · #19 07-20-2018, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Homesteader

I'm tapped, can you spot me a $100 till payday

Good to see the seller post on here, and hope he has a lot of good transactions, and feedback.

You should see if the Mods can change your user name to “Lowballer”

Homesteader · #20 07-21-2018, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Bull

You should see if the Mods can change your user name to “Lowballer”

I’m thinking just Baller

Suzukisam · #21 08-06-2018, 04:49 PM

I communicated on the Dakota 338 for 900. Thought price way to low ask why. He seemed insulted that I asked. Want me to go to Prince George to do deal. Cut of fuel there and back would have been a no deal. Dodge a miss fire there I guess

WeatherbyFan65 · #22 08-06-2018, 08:12 PM

Hopefully once things simmer down the mods will let us have a Custom Rifle Recovery Raffle to repay the affected members.

sailor · #23 08-06-2018, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WeatherbyFan65

Hopefully once things simmer down the mods will let us have a Custom Rifle Recovery Raffle to repay the affected members.

WeatherbyFan65, when I saw a price for New Sako trg42 I said to myself "too good to be true".
So don't be very upset -most folks here who paid money to Mr Barry were to fool to even think-
Everybody should have phone conversation with seller before paying money or ask your buddy who lives in that area to go and check-that what I always offer and ask others when I buy or sell to have good net if I need !
Other words-if I bought or sold somebody smth I offer them to ask me to inspect and proof seller in my area and to do the same for me,
So far everybody was happy with this , and lost no money!
Of course don't blame me if threaded holes for scope are not in perfect line if you didn't tell me to- and how to check it

WeatherbyFan65 · #24 08-06-2018, 09:47 PM

Could all affected member from the DB scam, please PM moderator sns2 or myself with the date and amount lost, your real name and email address please

Thanks
WF

Ken07AOVette · #25 08-10-2018, 10:46 AM

I have been contacted regarding this, and because of the nature of the Criminal activity there is not a lot I can do, sorry.
I would say though, now that he is banned and has moved on there is less chance that anyone will be able to track him.
The best way to handle something of this matter is to call the RCMP first if you suspect suspicious activity, then notify the Mods but do not suspend or ban until the Criminal Investigation has been initiated.
He will just start under another name with an IP spoof and nobody will be the wiser.
These are very serious cases of Fraud, and Theft and the RCMP should be the first notified.

sns2 · #26 08-10-2018, 01:14 PM

And so we come back to the age old imperative: buyer beware.

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heybert · #27 08-10-2018, 06:25 PM

Took your advice Ken and the horsemen had been contacted and evidence presented. Hopefully they've reached out to the other members that indicated to me that they'll talk and give evidence.

Ken07AOVette · #28 08-13-2018, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by heybert

Took your advice Ken and the horsemen had been contacted and evidence presented. Hopefully they've reached out to the other members that indicated to me that they'll talk and give evidence.

Excellent. Best of luck, Sir.

Dean2 · #29 08-13-2018, 05:18 PM

Sorry to see the way this went together and so many to have been scammed out of substantial dollars. That said, i got a couple of pretty nasty pms for my earlier comments about not trusting first time sellers with no track record after the scammer came on and gave his heart felt plee about being a good guy and not wanting to hurt anyomne, JUST DIDn't like low ballers. World has way Too many scum. Hope you guys get some justice.