|
06-28-2016, 12:05 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary Area
Posts: 2,381
|
|
Thinking of a New Boat
We currently have a 17 ft Crestliner with a 140 Hp Suzuki outboard. Its a good boat and the motor has been very reliable. We have owned it for about 10 or 15 yrs and i am thinking about what kind of new boat i may want.
Most of the new boats have Mercury motors. I see that most boat shops work on Mercury, that would be handy. How is there reliability?
What brand of boats have high end quality? We have been quite happy with Crestliner but Lund and Princecraft seem impressive as well.
All advice is appreciated.
|
06-28-2016, 12:15 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Millet, AB
Posts: 1,266
|
|
If youre interested in looking at a legend you can fire me a pm. My employer deals them
__________________
My Blog---> Alberta Outdoors Journal
|
06-28-2016, 12:52 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Camrose
Posts: 45,148
|
|
Lund , Princecraft and Crestliner are all very good quality boats. As far as engines go, Mercury, Honda and Yamaha are all very reliable. If I was in the market for a new boat, I would be contacting Albert at Lac La Biche Sporting Goods.
__________________
Only accurate guns are interesting.
|
06-28-2016, 01:24 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Wetaskiwin
Posts: 231
|
|
New boat time
Quote:
Originally Posted by markg
We currently have a 17 ft Crestliner with a 140 Hp Suzuki outboard. Its a good boat and the motor has been very reliable. We have owned it for about 10 or 15 yrs and i am thinking about what kind of new boat i may want.
Most of the new boats have Mercury motors. I see that most boat shops work on Mercury, that would be handy. How is there reliability?
What brand of boats have high end quality? We have been quite happy with Crestliner but Lund and Princecraft seem impressive as well.
All advice is appreciated.
|
If you are looking to purchase brand new and want to stay with an aluminum boat, I would have a look at Westlock Motor products, and have a look at an Alumacraft with an Evinrude E-Tec G2 on it. In my experience, Lund has declined in quality from the boats that made their name great years ago, and prince craft was never in the same league as a Lund or even a Crestliner.
Personally I would suggest that you make the jump to a quality fibreglass boat, such as a Warrior, Ranger, Yar-Craft etc. Depending on the type of use you have in mind for it, it is hard to beat the ride quality in a glass boat, and the fit and finish in my Ranger is second to none.
As far as outboards, there are lots of Mercs out there because Brunswick Marine is the parent company of Merc and of many of the boat manufacturers, such as Lund, Princecraft, tracker, etc., making it hard to get anything but a Merc on these hulls.
Personally though, I would not have a Merc, as when I see an outboard grenade at a tournament, it is generally a black one, and while all engines can fail, their track record is poor in my opinion.
Add to that all the maintenance that a Merc requires and the need to run premium fuel, I would not make them my choice.
My first choice would be an e-Tec, as it is lighter than the comparable 4 stroke Merc, has less emissions, uses less fuel, runs great on regular gas, and is as quiet. My second choice would be a Yamaha, as they have proven to be excellent motors as well, and I would stay away from Merc, as mentioned, and from Honda, as much as I like Honda products, they are heavy outboards, and lack the power of a comparable HP outboard of the other brands.
this is just my opinion and experience, and you will find people with horror stories of all brands as well as great success with all brands, so choose what will work best for the use that you have, and that fits your budget and convenience as well.
Good Luck in your search.
|
06-28-2016, 01:33 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,310
|
|
You lookin' to downsize or do you have two foot fever?
Fishing boat?
Pulling skiers?
How many people do you usually have on board?
|
06-28-2016, 03:17 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Rocky View County AB.
Posts: 3,560
|
|
Honda and Yamaha first choice then the Merc.
Eveinrude is having some issues with that etec so I would be shy of it.
Take this conversation to the fishing discussion and you will get tons of real good advise.
As far as a boat is concerned you now own one of the best so Crestliner, Lund, Alumicraft those are kind of the top three.
|
06-28-2016, 03:54 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary Area
Posts: 2,381
|
|
Clarity
I want it to be a fishing boat. I would downsize to a 16 foot as its just the wife and I that usually go out. Occasionally another couple.
I like it to be able to go over 30 mph or 50 kph. The big thing for me is quality. The boat i currently have has been great, the suzuki motor starts every time, all the time flawlessly, so i have high standards.
Its just time for something newer. (unless i cant find something better)
I am finding the manufacturers websites tedious, they want to capture a ton of info before you can even access pricing.
|
06-28-2016, 03:59 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Lloydminster AB/SK
Posts: 1,348
|
|
What ever engine you go with, ensure they have the staff to deal with any issues in a timely manner. Some of the dealers have a month wait before they will get to your stuff. I have driven 125 miles to have service done as the local dealer (where I purchased the outfit from) could not fit me in for over a month.With the unit off warranty, I try to do the most of the repairs myself.
__________________
2011 Hoyt Carbon Element AP Camo, 60# (RKT Cams)
HDX rest
Hoyt Carbon Pro Sight
|
06-28-2016, 04:03 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary Area
Posts: 2,381
|
|
Only Complaint
My only complaint has been the fact that getting work done (winterize or tune up) has to be done at only 1 dealer in southern alberta. That dealer is about 100km from where i live. They have been great and thankfully I havent needed any repairs done.
|
06-28-2016, 04:07 PM
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,718
|
|
Look at the lund Rebel or Lund Fury. You won't need another boat in your lifetime.
|
06-28-2016, 05:44 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary Area
Posts: 2,381
|
|
Thanks
I appreciate the advice. Good suggestions.
|
06-29-2016, 11:24 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 136
|
|
Any idea how much you'll want for the boat you have now? I'm guessing you'll be selling it?
__________________
Git-Er-Done!
|
06-29-2016, 12:07 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton (shudder)
Posts: 4,640
|
|
If your current boat, engine, and dealer have been so good to you; why not reward them with loyalty? Replace your old boat with newer models of the same manufacturers.
|
06-29-2016, 12:15 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary Area
Posts: 2,381
|
|
Expensive
I spoke to a salesperson at the place where i bought the original boat. I also called a couple of places that sell different brands. Prices have really gone up. More than i expected. I will have to rethink this. Might just do some upgrades and save some money.
$5000 or $6000 in maintenance and upgrades is a lot better than $40K on a new boat.
Last edited by markg; 06-29-2016 at 12:17 PM.
Reason: MORE INFO
|
06-29-2016, 12:51 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,798
|
|
The rebel is a real nice 16 footer. I went with a kingfisher with Yamaha outboards and have been very happy with it. I asked all the guys I know on the east and west coast about engines and Yamaha came up every time so that's the way I went.
__________________
"I don't know about the "shooting Savages" part. I have one and I have had considerable difficulty doing well with it. Part of the reason for this is that I feel a need to put bag over my head to hide my identity when ever I am shooting it!"
Leeper
|
06-29-2016, 03:46 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary Area
Posts: 2,381
|
|
Yamaha
I have heard that Yamaha are great Marine motors as well. You see lots of them on boats in the west coast. If they are good enough for guys who make a living fishing there good enough for us in the Prairies.
|
06-29-2016, 04:55 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sherwood Park
Posts: 4,321
|
|
wouldn't hesitate buying another starcraft, much better layout and can handle big water. if serious, consider south of the border, way more inventory and value. tons of inventory makes things competitive unlike here
|
06-29-2016, 10:14 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 4
|
|
Wake setter and master craft are my favourites. My 53 foot baja has treated me well too.
|
06-29-2016, 11:15 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 11,858
|
|
I`ve owned all sorts of boats sporting all sorts and brands of outboards over the years.
I am now running Hondas and am quite impressed, once again, with the bullet proof reliability, simplicity and ease of servicing. These have always been the best motors I`ve run over the years.
You will notice that out here on the prairies, there are many, many, black motors but I`d say that`s because many retailers aggressively market the cheap `package` boat.
You end up with a cheap boat, with cheap accessories, with a cheap motor in an underpowered package that leaves the you disappointed in the long run.
On the coast, I noticed far more Yamahas and Hondas - and I think that`s because many guys out there share the same opinions as I do ...... get something simple, with ample power, thats reliable and bullet proof and you won``t be disappointed.
Don`t get me wrong - some black motors are great - but you get what you pay for.
|
06-30-2016, 04:48 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Irvine AB
Posts: 34
|
|
Lund is the only way to go with a Mercury or Evinrude engine. I've ran both and they're both equally reliable. IMO.
|
06-30-2016, 05:36 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,531
|
|
I'm in the minority here but I have nothing but praise for my Suzuki DF150.
It has provided flawless reliability and performance. I think they are highly underrated.
Mountain Toys Cochrane is a dealer and service center.
Good luck!
Sent from my SM-N920W8 using Tapatalk
|
06-30-2016, 10:55 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Southern Alberta
Posts: 7,350
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by HyperMOA
If your current boat, engine, and dealer have been so good to you; why not reward them with loyalty? Replace your old boat with newer models of the same manufacturers.
|
Agree.
__________________
.
eat a snickers
made in Alberta__ born n raised.
FS-Tinfool hats by the roll.
|
07-06-2016, 10:53 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 11
|
|
Crestliner, mercury, evinrude,
Quote:
Originally Posted by markg
I spoke to a salesperson at the place where i bought the original boat. I also called a couple of places that sell different brands. Prices have really gone up. More than i expected. I will have to rethink this. Might just do some upgrades and save some money.
$5000 or $6000 in maintenance and upgrades is a lot better than $40K on a new boat.
|
what model of crestliner you looking for fish hawk or vision... 1650 or 1700?
you prefer merc or Evinrude.
I can help your with all these choices.
pm me for more questions on your search.
|
07-07-2016, 09:02 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Lloydminster Alberta
Posts: 1,298
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by wildside2014
If youre interested in looking at a legend you can fire me a pm. My employer deals them
|
Bought a 16 XCaliber last year, awesome boat for the money. I put an merc optimax on it an love it.
|
07-07-2016, 10:13 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 2,788
|
|
I had a 16' Sylvan with a 90 hp Yamaha 2 stroke on it for 6 years. Just changed over to a 18.5' Lund with a 150 4 stroke Merc and a 9.9 Merc Pro Kicker this spring. I was a bit nervous about switching from Yamaha to Merc as I've had great luck with Yamaha everything. That said, I couldn't believe how much quieter the Merc was over the Yamaha (likely 2 stroke vs 4 more than brand) and the FI vs carb was huge too. Starts way easier, uses less gas, is quieter, and has QR codes on the motor to pull up how to maintenance videos on youtube. So far I have been very happy with the 150 4 stroke Merc. the 9.9 Pro Kicker has been a little less impressive as it's carbed and can be a pain to get fired up first thing. Once it has been going it's good but that initial startup is painful. If I had to do it over again I would do a Suzuki 9.9 as they are EFI.
BTW, you can order a Lund with a Honda motor from factory. I believe that Riverside will put a Yamaha on for you. Brokers in Camrose will put a Evinrude on a Lund for you too. I looked at Alumacraft boats (the Edge mostly) and couldn't get past the smaller livewell accesses. Not easy to put a pike in or out of.
SS
|
07-07-2016, 10:31 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Southern Alberta
Posts: 1,786
|
|
I have a 17.5 Crestliner Sportfisher with a 115 Mercury 4 stroke...love it.
__________________
Common sense is so rare these days, that it should be considered a super power.
|
07-07-2016, 10:44 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Millet, AB
Posts: 1,266
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodgeboy1979
Bought a 16 XCaliber last year, awesome boat for the money. I put an merc optimax on it an love it.
|
Yes they are a great boat for the pricing. Pretty tough to beat a lifetime warranty on a 100 gauge aluminum welded hull too
__________________
My Blog---> Alberta Outdoors Journal
|
07-08-2016, 01:57 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,072
|
|
For the longest time, when I was a kid, I desperately wanted a Misty River with a Merc motor. Then, as I got older, I became all about Lund with a Merc. Now, the more I watch Uncut Angling, the more I become enamoured with that Alumacraft/Yammy combo...so many great options!
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:13 AM.
|