Archery Mule Deer Draw for 2013 Season?

[Dan Boone]

Killed my first caribou with bow in 96 I think it was.
And no I have never killed a mule deer with a bow, several moose. But no deer.

I don't eat deer meat, so why shoot an animal I do not want?
I have killed a couple nice mule deer with my muzzle loader though!

I truly enjoy my time in the field with my bow, and the closeness of the encounters. But none the less, I do not and never will agree with a 2 month season.

And out of curiosity, what is your problem with a pick your weapon seasons?
If u choose bow, you only hunt during bow season!
Draw or no draw!

Seems like a legitimate way to seperate true Bowhunters from the ones that bowhunt because they can!

[Blackice1106]

In defence of archery,...

For any hunter that does not attempt to make the most of the opportunities available today, you should be ashamed, especially when you want to further restrict existing opportunity. How many archery hunters compared to rifle hunter numbers??? What success rate for archery hunters compared to rifle hunters? Pick up a bow and gives us an update as to your success rate,... you watch AO and see successes posted in the forum for two months (archery season), infrequently. Then November comes. Compare the number of pics from rifle success to archery success.

All the bitching only leads to lost opportunities...think before you speak.

I cannot believe this crap.

Get rid of the non-residents allocations. Cut the outfitter allocations. Give the resident the opportunity they deserve.

To date, since starting to hunt in 2007 (6 years of hunting): 2 muley archery bucks, 2 muley rifle bucks, 0 whitetail archery bucks, 3 whitetail rifle bucks, a few does of each but none with bow. No success in either category over 170". Biggest whitetail 149 1/2".

I hunt as much as possible, respect the land, the landowner and the animal, each and every year and so long as the opportunity is there I will continue to do so.

[Dan Boone]

Out of curiosity, how long is the now only season in most of sask?

Originally Posted by muledeerking

I find this so funny. Some of these zones have the best muledeer numbers in the province. So why are we going to a draw? I am sorry I totally disagree with this whole draw thing. Like I have said before the number one killer of our animals are nonresidents.They are putting these numbers over. After talking to a few outfitters I know they are all tagging out. So just like sheep there sucsess rates are through the roof. I bet only a small percent of archery hunters can actually kill a mule deer if it was bigger than a fork horn. The real problem has nothing to do with bow hunters here. It has all to do with srd giving out way to many rifle tags for way to long. Also NOTHING in the 3 archery zones should be on a draw other than sheep in 410. and there should be NO non resident tags for that either. Srd better start controlling NR and quit worring about the residents. I still think SASK has got it figured out and we should start paying a little closer attention to what they are doing.

[pottymouth]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

Killed my first caribou with bow in 96 I think it was.
And no I have never killed a mule deer with a bow, several moose. But no deer.

I don't eat deer meat, so why shoot an animal I do not want?
I have killed a couple nice mule deer with my muzzle loader though!

I truly enjoy my time in the field with my bow, and the closeness of the encounters. But none the less, I do not and never will agree with a 2 month season.

And out of curiosity, what is your problem with a pick your weapon seasons?
If u choose bow, you only hunt during bow season!
Draw or no draw!

Seems like a legitimate way to seperate true Bowhunters from the ones that bowhunt because they can!

How many years have you bow hunted?

Why shoot mule with a muzzleloader but not a bow? Still have to eat them regardless of weapon.

[Dan Boone]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

Out of curiosity, how long is the now only season in most of sask?

Bow only! Dang iphone

[Blackice1106]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

Killed my first caribou with bow in 96 I think it was.
And no I have never killed a mule deer with a bow, several moose. But no deer.

I don't eat deer meat, so why shoot an animal I do not want?
I have killed a couple nice mule deer with my muzzle loader though!

I truly enjoy my time in the field with my bow, and the closeness of the encounters. But none the less, I do not and never will agree with a 2 month season.

And out of curiosity, what is your problem with a pick your weapon seasons?
If u choose bow, you only hunt during bow season!
Draw or no draw!

Seems like a legitimate way to seperate true Bowhunters from the ones that bowhunt because they can!

What is the question of true bowhunter versus ones that bow hunt because they can? Why wouldnt you bow hunt and utilize the opportunity that exists.

[Dan Boone]

96 to now would be 16 years I assume.

And I gave the deer to a friend, he really enjoys deer meat.
I prefer muzzleloader to bow. Is that a crime, am I to be shipped off to he'll for my preference?

[Blackice1106]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

96 to now would be 16 years I assume.

And I gave the deer to a friend, he really enjoys deer meat.
I prefer muzzleloader to bow. Is that a crime, am I to be shipped off to he'll for my preference?

Not a crime, but a choice quite obviously as you just stated. Its a preference. I like archery, and rifle. I do not own a muzzleloader, but would likely seek the opportunity if more opportunity existed in alberta.

[Dan Boone]

Originally Posted by Blackice1106

What is the question of true bowhunter versus ones that bow hunt because they can? Why wouldnt you bow hunt and utilize the opportunity that exists.

I do bow hunt and utilize the opportunity that exists. I don't have any problem with buying a bow only mule deer permit. If such a thing were to exist some day.

But if this great province ever catches up to most of north America, I will be able to draw my muzzleloader season mule deer tag again.

I just can't justify a 2 month bow season!

[pottymouth]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

I consider myself a Bowhunter as well, but I see no reason to have a 2 month bow season. None.

And as for everything on a draw, with our ever increasing population it is bound to happen. Might as well face it.

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

96 to now would be 16 years I assume.

And I gave the deer to a friend, he really enjoys deer meat.
I prefer muzzleloader to bow. Is that a crime, am I to be shipped off to he'll for my preference?

Your not a bowhunter, your a guy that hunts with a bow.... Big difference!

Now that we know that you prefer the smoke pole, it's easier to see why you
want separate seasons.... Thx

I can't justify a muzzy season, when they shoot 200+ yards easy. Heck most guys can't shoot that far with a rifle.

[Blackice1106]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

Out of curiosity, how long is the now only season in most of sask?

Sept 1 to Oct 31 is Sask bow season.

General Archery and most Draw Archery seasons.

[Dan Boone]

I don't believe I've ever hid the fact I love my muzzle loader.
And I do not consider myself a Bowhunter but as you stated a guy that hunts with a bow.

But by Alberta definitions, I am a Bowhunter.
One question, do you hunt with a rifle at all?

Originally Posted by pottymouth

Your not a bowhunter, your a guy that hunts with a bow.... Big difference!

Now that we know that you prefer the smoke pole, it's easier to see why you want separate seasons.... Thx

[Dan Boone]

Originally Posted by Blackice1106

Sept 1 to Oct 31 is Sask bow season.

General Archery and most Draw Archery seasons.

When do muzzleloader start in most zones?

[H380]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

I do bow hunt and utilize the opportunity that exists. I don't have any problem with buying a bow only mule deer permit. If such a thing were to exist some day.

But if this great province ever catches up to most of north America, I will be able to draw my muzzleloader season mule deer tag again.

I just can't justify a 2 month bow season!

As stated previous I believe a 2 month archery season has put the harvest limit over the cap .I bowhunt as well but think this was either a mistake or done intentionally to force the draw issue .What length of time should rifle season be ?

[Dan Boone]

Originally Posted by H380

As stated previous I believe a 2 month archery season has put the harvest limit over the cap .I bowhunt as well but think this was either a mistake or done intentionally to force the draw issue .What length of time should rifle season be ?

It's fine the way it is or less if I had a choice. Starting about nov 20th.
To allow some good genetics to be passed on.

[Blackice1106]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

When do muzzleloader start in most zones?

Looks to be October 1. 1 month overlap.

[Dan Boone]

Originally Posted by Blackice1106

Looks to be October 1. 1 month overlap.

I love the sask model too!

[mulecrazy]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

So mulecrazy, u feel it Is your god given right to chase mule deer 3 months each year?

Let's open up for rifle on sept 1st as well.
That way between the archers and rifle guys we can ensure every big buck is killed long before they have a chance to reproduce.

Get a clue man, the divide is caused by the inequality that exists right now. Evening out the playing field might just bring the 2 together better.

Bowhunters should have first access but difinately not a 2 month season!

Who needs to get a clue????


BOWHUNTING IS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE!!!

Where is the inequality? Open access to all seems pretty equal

[Blackice1106]

I'm out, and have other things to do.

It isn't the 2 month archery season reducing the deer numbers. It is too many tags in rifle, and I rifle hunt too so lets skip the criticisms.

NR's, Outfitter allocation, 3 bad winters until last, a crazy botched plan to control CWD, on and on.... Poor Management = reduce herd numbers.

dont blame the hunter and consider the tools utilized and what is entailed to succeed...

[Dan Boone]

Originally Posted by mulecrazy

Who needs to get a clue????


BOWHUNTING IS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE!!!

Where is the inequality? Open access to all seems pretty equal

And there lies my problem, it's open to everyone.
Wether they can hit a barn at 30 yards or I can stick em in a tennis ball at 50.

I've never killed a mule deer or whitetail or elk with a bow. But I have never missed one or crippled one that got away either.

Separating the seasons will seperate you truely great archers from us part time guys.

[mulecrazy]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

And there lies my problem, it's open to everyone.
Wether they can hit a barn at 30 yards or I can stick em in a tennis ball at 50.

I've never killed a mule deer or whitetail or elk with a bow. But I have never missed one or crippled one that got away either.

Separating the seasons will seperate you truely great archers from us part time guys.

so now you try to change your justification? Nice try. Archery has had miniscule effect on deer populations. Yes there are lots of guys out there that can't shoot their bows that well, there are also a pile of rifle hunters who can't hit crap either. whats your point? bowhunters wound but not rifle hunters?

[elkmakemecrazy]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

So mulecrazy, u feel it Is your god given right to chase mule deer 3 months each year?

Let's open up for rifle on sept 1st as well.
That way between the archers and rifle guys we can ensure every big buck is killed long before they have a chance to reproduce.

Get a clue man, the divide is caused by the inequality that exists right now. Evening out the playing field might just bring the 2 together better.

Bowhunters should have first access but difinately not a 2 month season!

These bowhunter versus rifle hunter threads are always interesting too me.

Everyone always states the divide is because of "inequality" or it is "unfair" bowhunters have so much more opportunity.

So what people are basically saying with this statement is someone else has something that I want, but instead of taking advantage of the opportunity that exists for everyone people want to take it away from others or change it to meet there wants. This is quite the attitude.

Now if there is an issue relating to actual wildlife management sure put it on draw or close the season. I have no issue with this. Just don't take opportunities away because it is "not equal" or "unfair".

[Dan Boone]

Originally Posted by mulecrazy

so now you try to change your justification? Nice try. Archery has had miniscule effect on deer populations. Yes there are lots of guys out there that can't shoot their bows that well, there are also a pile of rifle hunters who can't hit crap either. whats your point? bowhunters wound but not rifle hunters?

If u read back through this post and some other of my posts, you wood see this has been my justification all along. Jeez man

And I want a muzzy season!

[H380]

[QUOTE=Dan Boone;1647114]It's fine the way it is or less if I had a choice. Starting about nov 20th.
To allow some good genetics to be passed on.[/QUOTE So you would shorten the rifle season AND Bow season AND have both on draw ?

[Dan Boone]

I would shorten both but not necessarily on draw.
Just that if u choose to hunt mule deer with a bow, then you can't hunt with a rifle. I'd even go as far as to say u have to state your intent when u apply for draws.
If u plan to bowhunt mules then u can't go in the draw.
Same with moose, elk, WT, bear etc

Choose Ur weapon and that's it

[mulecrazy]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

If u read back through this post and some other of my posts, you wood see this has been my justification all along. Jeez man

And I want a muzzy season!

I "wood" would I...... your justification is that bowhunters wound deer but rifle hunters don't.

nicely done sir, nicely done.

and you also say we should make things less equal by seperating better bowhunters from the lesser bowhunters. LOL. so now we should have differen't teirs of draws. newbies get the first month of bowhunting and the hardcore guys get the second month? sounds like you might work for the SRD with this garbage.

[muledeerking]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

Bow only! Dang iphone

i Cant find the regs but I think it is a month and a half. then muzzleloader season. Either way it is for residents only.

[Dan Boone]

This would most likely eleminate the need for mule deer to go on draw in most wmu's. Seperate the true archers from the guys that hunt with a bow.

[mulecrazy]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

I would shorten both but not necessarily on draw.
Just that if u choose to hunt mule deer with a bow, then you can't hunt with a rifle. I'd even go as far as to say u have to state your intent when u apply for draws.
If u plan to bowhunt mules then u can't go in the draw.
Same with moose, elk, WT, bear etc

Choose Ur weapon and that's it

give 1 GOOD reason for this? why should people not be able to use multiple hunting tools.

should people also have to declare whether they will use their truck to hunt or walk only? should sheep hunters declare whether they will use a horse or quad or foot?

[mulecrazy]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

This would most likely eleminate the need for mule deer to go on draw in most wmu's. Seperate the true archers from the guys that hunt with a bow.

how is that equal? you preached equality earlier.