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06-06-2020, 11:01 AM
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Not just the police interaction numbers, but all the other numbers he is quoting are completely true. You will never see the mainstream media ever giving this any air time.
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06-06-2020, 11:13 AM
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some interesting points
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06-06-2020, 11:23 AM
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What I find just as interesting is the people who claim Canada is a racist country that heavily targets Blacks are ignoring a long history that tells a completely different story. They are buying into the revisionist history put out by the Media and special interest groups. The first non-Caucasian immigrants to Canada were in fact free Blacks that traveled to Canada with the French explorers in the late 1600s. The French settlers that followed in the early 1700s owned and brought Slaves with them when they settled in Canada. The English pretty much abolished the buying and selling of people when they conquered French Canada in 1763, refused to extradite slaves that escaped from the U.S. and specifically outlawed slavery throughout the British Empire in 1833. The British also made it possible for a large number of black loyalists to settle safely in Canada along with the large number of loyalist whites during the American Revolution.
Following that and in much larger numbers were the Chinese that came to Canada, first during the Gold Rush and then in large numbers when they were recruited for building the rail road in B.C. during the 1880s. Between the Chinese and the Japanese they faced far more discrimination and negative Government sanctions, legislation, restrictions, and in the case of the Japanese, internment during the second world war, than any other immigrant group. These legislated discriminatory practices persisted well into the 1960s. There is a great deal of background information in Wikipedia, that appears to not be well known by most Canadians.
I find it interesting that you never see Chinese and Japanese marching against the pervasive, long lasting and until the late 1960s, codified discrimination they suffered. There is no “Asian Lives Matter” movement. There is no pervasive or major friction between the Chinese/Japanese communities and the police. There are no violent demonstrations or demands for affirmative action. They have worked tirelessly and within the legal frameworks to redress their issue and both communities have been tremendously successful despite the many obstacles they have faced.
There has clearly been discrimination and racism in Canada over the past 300 years and it still exists. There is however a very large difference between the lives of Blacks in Canada and the lives of Blacks in the U.S., and for that matter most of the rest of the world. To put Canada into the same class as these other countries is patently ridiculous. It is pandering to the new status symbol of being a disadvantaged person and demanding attention because of it.
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06-06-2020, 11:44 AM
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Oops. I put this on the wrong forum
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06-06-2020, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean2
What I find just as interesting is the people who claim Canada is a racist country that heavily targets Blacks are ignoring a long history that tells a completely different story. They are buying into the revisionist history put out by the Media and special interest groups. The first non-Caucasian immigrants to Canada were in fact free Blacks that traveled to Canada with the French explorers in the late 1600s. The French settlers that followed in the early 1700s owned and brought Slaves with them when they settled in Canada. The English pretty much abolished the buying and selling of people when they conquered French Canada in 1763, refused to extradite slaves that escaped from the U.S. and specifically outlawed slavery throughout the British Empire in 1833. The British also made it possible for a large number of black loyalists to settle safely in Canada along with the large number of loyalist whites during the American Revolution.
Following that and in much larger numbers were the Chinese that came to Canada, first during the Gold Rush and then in large numbers when they were recruited for building the rail road in B.C. during the 1880s. Between the Chinese and the Japanese they faced far more discrimination and negative Government sanctions, legislation, restrictions, and in the case of the Japanese, internment during the second world war, than any other immigrant group. These legislated discriminatory practices persisted well into the 1960s. There is a great deal of background information in Wikipedia, that appears to not be well known by most Canadians.
I find it interesting that you never see Chinese and Japanese marching against the pervasive, long lasting and until the late 1960s, codified discrimination they suffered. There is no “Asian Lives Matter” movement. There is no pervasive or major friction between the Chinese/Japanese communities and the police. There are no violent demonstrations or demands for affirmative action. They have worked tirelessly and within the legal frameworks to redress their issue and both communities have been tremendously successful despite the many obstacles they have faced.
There has clearly been discrimination and racism in Canada over the past 300 years and it still exists. There is however a very large difference between the lives of Blacks in Canada and the lives of Blacks in the U.S., and for that matter most of the rest of the world. To put Canada into the same class as these other countries is patently ridiculous. It is pandering to the new status symbol of being a disadvantaged person and demanding attention because of it.
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Everybody wants to be a victim, people are desperately trying to fabricate some big racial problem against blacks in Canada just to fit in with the rest of the woke people. Didn’t black people runaway to Canada to escape slavery back in the day?
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06-06-2020, 12:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean2
What I find just as interesting is the people who claim Canada is a racist country that heavily targets Blacks are ignoring a long history that tells a completely different story. They are buying into the revisionist history put out by the Media and special interest groups. The first non-Caucasian immigrants to Canada were in fact free Blacks that traveled to Canada with the French explorers in the late 1600s. The French settlers that followed in the early 1700s owned and brought Slaves with them when they settled in Canada. The English pretty much abolished the buying and selling of people when they conquered French Canada in 1763, refused to extradite slaves that escaped from the U.S. and specifically outlawed slavery throughout the British Empire in 1833. The British also made it possible for a large number of black loyalists to settle safely in Canada along with the large number of loyalist whites during the American Revolution.
Following that and in much larger numbers were the Chinese that came to Canada, first during the Gold Rush and then in large numbers when they were recruited for building the rail road in B.C. during the 1880s. Between the Chinese and the Japanese they faced far more discrimination and negative Government sanctions, legislation, restrictions, and in the case of the Japanese, internment during the second world war, than any other immigrant group. These legislated discriminatory practices persisted well into the 1960s. There is a great deal of background information in Wikipedia, that appears to not be well known by most Canadians.
I find it interesting that you never see Chinese and Japanese marching against the pervasive, long lasting and until the late 1960s, codified discrimination they suffered. There is no “Asian Lives Matter” movement. There is no pervasive or major friction between the Chinese/Japanese communities and the police. There are no violent demonstrations or demands for affirmative action. They have worked tirelessly and within the legal frameworks to redress their issue and both communities have been tremendously successful despite the many obstacles they have faced.
There has clearly been discrimination and racism in Canada over the past 300 years and it still exists. There is however a very large difference between the lives of Blacks in Canada and the lives of Blacks in the U.S., and for that matter most of the rest of the world. To put Canada into the same class as these other countries is patently ridiculous. It is pandering to the new status symbol of being a disadvantaged person and demanding attention because of it.
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Good post Dean,
the issue here as I see it, is we have a racist PM that happily mocked some races for some chuckles on multiple occasion. He says we, Canada, are racist because he thinks all would act as he has.
I for one in my almost half a century of being here would have never thought it was ok to do blackface, I assume most here hold that value as well.
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06-06-2020, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean2
What I find just as interesting is the people who claim Canada is a racist country that heavily targets Blacks are ignoring a long history that tells a completely different story. They are buying into the revisionist history put out by the Media and special interest groups. The first non-Caucasian immigrants to Canada were in fact free Blacks that traveled to Canada with the French explorers in the late 1600s. The French settlers that followed in the early 1700s owned and brought Slaves with them when they settled in Canada. The English pretty much abolished the buying and selling of people when they conquered French Canada in 1763, refused to extradite slaves that escaped from the U.S. and specifically outlawed slavery throughout the British Empire in 1833. The British also made it possible for a large number of black loyalists to settle safely in Canada along with the large number of loyalist whites during the American Revolution.
Following that and in much larger numbers were the Chinese that came to Canada, first during the Gold Rush and then in large numbers when they were recruited for building the rail road in B.C. during the 1880s. Between the Chinese and the Japanese they faced far more discrimination and negative Government sanctions, legislation, restrictions, and in the case of the Japanese, internment during the second world war, than any other immigrant group. These legislated discriminatory practices persisted well into the 1960s. There is a great deal of background information in Wikipedia, that appears to not be well known by most Canadians.
I find it interesting that you never see Chinese and Japanese marching against the pervasive, long lasting and until the late 1960s, codified discrimination they suffered. There is no “Asian Lives Matter” movement. There is no pervasive or major friction between the Chinese/Japanese communities and the police. There are no violent demonstrations or demands for affirmative action. They have worked tirelessly and within the legal frameworks to redress their issue and both communities have been tremendously successful despite the many obstacles they have faced.
There has clearly been discrimination and racism in Canada over the past 300 years and it still exists. There is however a very large difference between the lives of Blacks in Canada and the lives of Blacks in the U.S., and for that matter most of the rest of the world. To put Canada into the same class as these other countries is patently ridiculous. It is pandering to the new status symbol of being a disadvantaged person and demanding attention because of it.
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Thank you for this 10,000' summary. Outstanding
We still have a long way to go to really get to Team Human and this is another significant point of reference for a growth jump. We still live very much tribe to tribe. Sex/religion/color/regional/political/religions etc. There are so many ways we divide each other up and then use these differences poorly.
We have two shoulders, on one sits love, on the other sits selfishness. As we evolve we are wanting to lead with love but selfishness still wins most of the battles on the above topics. We have lots of work to do to get shifted to where love wins more than selfishness. It will really start to shift when we start educating what it really means to be a human being. As education is the key to all growth. We're still a little too selfish and refuse to hold ourselves accountable for our truth. Someday...fingers crossed.
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And our prime minister falls heavily on the selfishness scale. He is a man of low moral character and no integrity.
It sure would be nice if the leaders of our country could be vetted of this before even able to run for prime minister.
There is a small percentage of the population of the proper moral character and integrity to hold that level of leadership position imo. This is something that is proven over a lifetime.
How we vote in someone like him is a tragedy to all people of this nation.
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