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Old 11-25-2014, 04:37 PM
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I came across an ad for a hillbilly fishing technique and got thinking; let's say you took a glass jar and filled it with water then live leaches/minnows or live worms and weighted with stones and lowered it down your icehole with a rope near to where you are fishing your regular hole with a dead minnow or live leach/worm, would the jar method be legal?
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:38 PM
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I don't think you can posses live minnows, correct me if i am wrong.
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:39 PM
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or, during a slow day on the ice, you got bored and decided to create a summer forage area/structure by bringing rocks from shore and stacking them on the ice so when the ice would melt it would let the rockpile sink thus making a forage structure (deep enough so as not be a hazard).
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:41 PM
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I don't think you can posses live minnows, correct me if i am wrong.
ok, then we'll stick with leeches and worms in the method.
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:44 PM
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I came across an ad for a hillbilly fishing technique and got thinking; let's say you took a glass jar and filled it with water then live leaches/minnows or live worms and weighted with stones and lowered it down your icehole with a rope near to where you are fishing your regular hole with a dead minnow or live leach/worm, would the jar method be legal?
Sounds like a way to get tangled up pretty good!
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:48 PM
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Sounds like a way to get tangled up pretty good!
like fish cams?
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:50 PM
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transpose live minnow with live perch from the lake you are fishing.
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Old 11-25-2014, 07:20 PM
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I dont believe it is legal to interfere or create structure on lakes and reservoirs. Must get approval.

Not to mention the danger it could create with snowmachines.
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Old 11-25-2014, 10:48 PM
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I came across an ad for a hillbilly fishing technique and got thinking; let's say you took a glass jar and filled it with water then live leaches/minnows or live worms and weighted with stones and lowered it down your icehole with a rope near to where you are fishing your regular hole with a dead minnow or live leach/worm, would the jar method be legal?
Years ago you use to be able to buy a bait ball was an 8" clear acrylic ball with a removable lid and a wire leader, ball had slits in it that slowed water in and a weight on the bottom. You put minnows or what ever in it and lowered it down. Have not seen one in years now. Was invented by a guy in Ont.

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Old 11-25-2014, 11:15 PM
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I dont believe it is legal to interfere or create structure on lakes and reservoirs. Must get approval.

Not to mention the danger it could create with snowmachines.
So standing on shore and throwing rocks into the same spot on a lake all day long would be illegal?
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:36 PM
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I don't think you can posses live minnows, correct me if i am wrong.
Unless your native. Then it's ok.
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:38 PM
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So standing on shore and throwing rocks into the same spot on a lake all day long would be illegal?
zactly.

or drilling a few holes and dumping rocks and boulders down.
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I dont believe it is legal to interfere or create structure on lakes and reservoirs. Must get approval.

Not to mention the danger it could create with snowmachines.
two of my favorite spots to fish from at two different reservoirs are dump spots of old sidewalks and rebar.
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Years ago you use to be able to buy a bait ball was an 8" clear acrylic ball with a removable lid and a wire leader, ball had slits in it that slowed water in and a weight on the bottom. You put minnows or what ever in it and lowered it down. Have not seen one in years now. Was invented by a guy in Ont.

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scent is a big factor to consider, would need to allow the water to flow in and out to spread it around.
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:09 PM
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scent is a big factor to consider, would need to allow the water to flow in and out to spread it around.
sadly, that would be chumming. but it says nothing about visual chumming.
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So standing on shore and throwing rocks into the same spot on a lake all day long would be illegal?
Never said that. Just responded to the OP.
Nice try though.
Stack some rocks on the ice then call it in. See what they say.
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:28 PM
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Never said that. Just responded to the OP.
Nice try though.
Stack some rocks on the ice then call it in. See what they say.
what if I marked it with reflectors and called it a windbreak?
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:35 PM
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I came across an ad for a hillbilly fishing technique and got thinking; let's say you took a glass jar and filled it with water then live leaches/minnows or live worms and weighted with stones and lowered it down your icehole with a rope near to where you are fishing your regular hole with a dead minnow or live leach/worm, would the jar method be legal?
I don't think that it would be legal in Alberta as it sounds to me like you would be setting out Bait to attract fish.

From the regs.

"General Sportfishing Restrictions
It Is Unlawful To:

"l Set out or use bait to attract fish unless it is attached to a hook used in
angling."
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what if I marked it with reflectors and called it a windbreak?

That might help with safety but would still be illegal.

Do a search
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:43 PM
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That might help with safety but would still be illegal.

Do a search
not if I left my name on it like an iceshack and "promised" to dismantle it before spring thaw.
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:45 PM
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I don't think that it would be legal in Alberta as it sounds to me like you would be setting out Bait to attract fish.

From the regs.

"General Sportfishing Restrictions
It Is Unlawful To:

"l Set out or use bait to attract fish unless it is attached to a hook used in
angling."
I guess it's time to give a call to f&w for interpretation.
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I don't think that it would be legal in Alberta as it sounds to me like you would be setting out Bait to attract fish.

From the regs.

"General Sportfishing Restrictions
It Is Unlawful To:

"l Set out or use bait to attract fish unless it is attached to a hook used in
angling."
what if the hook was attached to the jar?
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Old 11-26-2014, 01:34 PM
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I guess it's time to give a call to f&w for interpretation.
What ever they tell you I would ask for it in writing.

Have a great season.
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Old 11-26-2014, 01:39 PM
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Some people would say when your not catching fish with what might usually work, think outside the box or in this case outside the jar
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Old 11-26-2014, 09:18 PM
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I dont believe it is legal to interfere or create structure on lakes and reservoirs. Must get approval.

Not to mention the danger it could create with snowmachines.
Again years ago ....I'm very old..lol...we use to spread egg shells or white rock below our holes in our ice shacks we figured the lighter color not only attracted fish but it made it easier for sight fishing.had done it for quite a few years so before trying it called F&W asked them about it. They said it was illegal to do even if you use material from that lake it is considered restructuring the lake bottom.

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Again years ago ....I'm very old..lol...we use to spread egg shells or white rock below our holes in our ice shacks we figured the lighter color not only attracted fish but it made it easier for sight fishing.had done it for quite a few years so before trying it called F&W asked them about it. They said it was illegal to do even if you use material from that lake it is considered restructuring the lake bottom.

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two for two great answers.

what about using a kite to get your line way out from shore? always wanted to try this.
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Old 11-26-2014, 09:49 PM
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two for two great answers.

what about using a kite to get your line way out from shore? always wanted to try this.
you could always tell the fish cops someone told you to go fly a kite Im sure it would be the same as using a remote control boat to take your line out and drop it further than you can cast, I dont think you need a boaters license if you cant sit in it. or do you
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Old 11-27-2014, 12:13 AM
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two for two great answers.

what about using a kite to get your line way out from shore? always wanted to try this.
Don't see why not... You can use a planer board to take your line out away from your boat or away from shore in a river
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Don't see why not... You can use a planer board to take your line out away from your boat or away from shore in a river
I use planer board quite a bit never thought of using it in river current to getaway from shore.. Have you tried it how did it work ..sounds good.

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