204 Ruger

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by ishootbambi

Someone prove this phenomenon please. It defies the laws of physics.

what's left to prove? it's not a phenomenon.

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[southernman]

I have shot a few dogs with my .204, but I like the 45 g hornardy soft point, as my rifle won't shoot 40g and 32 grain I consider varmint bullets,

Seamed to work ok, but certainly better choices,

[ishootbambi]

Originally Posted by tikka250

cant tell you the perfect physics of it but essentially the bullet fragments so fast that it dosnt make very deep before pretty much turning to dust and blowing up just under the skin causing a massive "splash" effect on the coyote without doing any major killing damage. short answer is the bullet fragments too fast and it blows skin to kingdom come without doing any lethal damage.

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

what's left to prove? it's not a phenomenon.

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Saying "it's true" isn't proof of anything. I get the concept that highly frangible bullets at extreme velocities create massive tissue damage. What I don't understand and have never seen proof of is how the damage turns 180 degrees to blow out skin back the opposite direction the bullet is travelling. I don't hear of it on chest suits, I just keep hearing of this splash when a shoulder is struck. That says to me that the skin isn't causing the bullet to fragment, but the bone is. Well the bone is under skin and muscle. For the skin to explode, the fragments would have to completely change direction of travel to where it came from. If this is such a common occurrence then surely someone must have a picture of it. So show me. Pm it if you're shy.

[tikka250]

Originally Posted by ishootbambi

Saying "it's true" isn't proof of anything. I get the concept that highly frangible bullets at extreme velocities create massive tissue damage. What I don't understand and have never seen proof of is how the damage turns 180 degrees to blow out skin back the opposite direction the bullet is travelling. I don't hear of it on chest suits, I just keep hearing of this splash when a shoulder is struck. That says to me that the skin isn't causing the bullet to fragment, but the bone is. Well the bone is under skin and muscle. For the skin to explode, the fragments would have to completely change direction of travel to where it came from. If this is such a common occurrence then surely someone must have a picture of it. So show me. Pm it if you're shy.

Its not that its reversing 180 to go out its fragmenting when it hits hard tissue and blowing it to the sides before it can get to where it needs to cause damage
https://youtu.be/x-L9GYmN76s 16 seconds in on this video. Slow it down to 1/2 speed as its not a long clip of it. www.rmvh.com/20-250%20-%20Bullet%20Selection.htm
This guy explains the troubles he had trying to get his 20-250 to not cause splash on coyotes and he includes pictures.