Octopus Hook Comparison - Looking for Input

[sturgeonhound]

I stopped in to Cabelas in edmonton today and they never had any of the Gamakatsu octopus hooks I usually use for sturgeon. They did have some Matzuo octopus hooks though, so I picked up a few packages.
Has anyone ever used these hooks before? Any feedback?




I thought I might do a few tests to see how strong they are.....this is the results of putting 25 ft-lbs of torque on the hook at the barb area and twisting to "open" the hook. I was surprised that the gamakatsu shattered, but the Matzuo just bent.....interesting.

[fish gunner]

Originally Posted by sturgeonhound

I stopped in to Cabelas in edmonton today and they never had any of the Gamakatsu octopus hooks I usually use for sturgeon. They did have some Matzuo octopus hooks though, so I picked up a few packages.
Has anyone ever used these hooks before? Any feedback?




I thought I might do a few tests to see how strong they are.....this is the results of putting 25 ft-lbs of torque on the hook at the barb area and twisting to "open" the hook. I was surprised that the gamakatsu shattered, but the Matzuo just bent.....interesting.

Higher carbon content makes for a stronger more brittle hook. The hook that bends is "softer"try owner as good high end hook.

[sturgeonhound]

Tried one more test......

Using a digital scale applying weight until failure. I did five of each type.

1) Gamakatsu - averaged 52 lbs pulling on bend of hook before failure.
2) Matzuo - averaged 28 lbs of pulling on bend of hook before straightening.




I'm thinking I wasted my money on these Matzuo's......I don't think I'll be using them for sturgeon....

SH

[sturgeonhound]

Originally Posted by fish gunner

Higher carbon content makes for a stronger more brittle hook. The hook that bends is "softer"try owner as good high end hook.

Thanks...if they would have had owner hooks i would have tried them.

SH

[Master_Baitcaster]

the matzuo ones are absolute trash, dont use if your targetting anything over 2 pounds as they WILL straighten out no matter how you fish. DO not waste money on these lol

[WayneChristie]

tried the Matzuo in a smaller size, tried to pinch the barb, the hooks always broke instead. I did get my 6 footer on a matzuo,because thats what was in the boat but now use gammas because I got my hands on some

[Teamprotz]

Tried Matzuos because I liked their jigs but went back to Gamakatsus , the Matzuo hooks will not hold a point very long and need to be replaced.Red is a temporary color ! Gamakatsus stay sharp. Have some #6 Trokar for walleye , very sharp but larger diameter and way bigger eye. Larger sizes might be more proportional.

[Shmag]

Last time I was in the city, cabelas, wss, and the hole were all sold out of the gamakatsu hooks I wanted for my walleye rigs. I decided to try the mustad ones...I didn't do the testing you guys did with weights and what not. But on walleye they held up really good, overall I was happy with them and they stayed sticky sharp...

[WayneChristie]

Mustads are ok for smaller fish, but they tend to straighten fairly easy on very big fish like large sturgeon, right dodger.?

[coppercarbide]

Originally Posted by sturgeonhound

Tried one more test......

Using a digital scale applying weight until failure. I did five of each type.

1) Gamakatsu - averaged 52 lbs pulling on bend of hook before failure.
2) Matzuo - averaged 28 lbs of pulling on bend of hook before straightening.




I'm thinking I wasted my money on these Matzuo's......I don't think I'll be using them for sturgeon....

SH

THIS... is the kind of stuff that is awesome to see on a forum. Thanks very much!

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by coppercarbide

THIS... is the kind of stuff that is awesome to see on a forum. Thanks very much!

Agree!

[pdfish]

You must be getting bored while on your holidays. Let's get out and fish already!!

[BlackHeart]

Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

Agree!

X3
Thank you.

[Fishfinder]

Originally Posted by BlackHeart

X3
Thank you.

X4, good to know

[sturgeonhound]

Thanks for the input......I think the Matzuo's are going in the garbage......

SH

[fish gunner]

For the serious specimen hunters look off shore for terminal tackle google names like drennan , esp, guru these are premier specimen hooks our owner and gammas just make this grade think catfish BIG catfish . Hope that helps

[Bjay]

I used 7/0 Mustad jig hooks for sturgen for years and never had a problem. I cought 9 ft sturgen on those hooks. I could be your hooks are too small.
Bjay