Celebrity hunters.

[trigger7mm]

When watching all the hunting shows on T.V. have you ever noticed how poorly most of these guys shoot. Shot placement is poor. More often than not, the animal gets hit in the guts or on the edges. Too high, too low, too far back...They’re always leaving it until morning and hoping that they will find it. I fully agree with when in doubt, back out, but you see way more poorly placed shot than good, clean kill shots, especially the bowhunters. No bragging intended, but in my 40 years of bow hunting, I can only recall 2 or 3 times when a shot was poor. I think mostly because shots were only ever taken at close range where complete confidence was there for proper placement. Just seems like these T.V. superstar hunters should learn to shoot better.

[elkhunter11]

I feel for the guides at times. In the show with the retired firefighter outfitting in Idaho , I have seen more misses than any other show. But then again, perhaps it's because the other shows edit out rhe misses?

[freeride]

I think its the pressure of having to down an animal for the show. They take bad shots and more chances because it's their career.

I personally will only take a bow shot of I am 100% certain I can do it, but I have gone empty handed for the past couple of years because of that. I am fine and happy with it, but it would make for more of animal nature show then a hunting show if I was being filmed.

I can only think of one show where they often dont take a shot because they dont want to wound it, and walk away. I respect that and it's the only one I watch because of it.

[270person]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

I feel for the guides at times. In the show with the retired firefighter outfitting in Idaho , I have seen more misses than any other show. But then again, perhaps it's because the other shows edit out rhe misses?

Sparky? Not a bad guy but man what a redundant show. 90mph wind blowing in the microphone while long strings of elk jump fences. Wooey.

He had Oilers goalie Mike Smith hunting with him in one episode. I think it was Smith anyways. Could have been Rob Zombie.

[huntinstuff]

I had to lend my rifle to the vice president of a well known gun manufacturer while in the Yukon. He didnt do his paperwork properly and was denied bringing his rifle into Canada.

He took my rifle and was being guided by Jim Shockey.

After the hunt ended, I was on the dock to help them unload and see how it went.

Then this VP comes up.to me complaining that my rifle was garbage/inaccurate etc. etc.....apparently he hit a caribou in the ass, a wolf in the guts and needed 4 shots to put his moose down......hmmm. I was thinking " what did this dink do to my rifle???"

Just so happens I was heading to the gravel pit later with Eva Shockey to sight in her new rifle. I took my rifle with us.

Eva put a small empty water bottle up at 100yds. I shot two holes in it, both holes touching. Eva says "do that to MY rifle!!!!"

Absolutely nothing wrong with my gun. We sighted in Eva's rifle and headed back.

Eva and I walked into Wojo's office and I put the waterbottle on Wojo's table as he and Jim were debriefing........Jim smirked and commented that this guy couldnt shoot worth beans.

[35 whelen]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

I had to lend my rifle to the vice president of a well known gun manufacturer while in the Yukon. He didnt do his paperwork properly and was denied bringing his rifle into Canada.



He took my rifle and was being guided by Jim Shockey.



After the hunt ended, I was on the dock to help them unload and see how it went.



Then this VP comes up.to me complaining that my rifle was garbage/inaccurate etc. etc.....apparently he hit a caribou in the ass, a wolf in the guts and needed 4 shots to put his moose down......hmmm. I was thinking " what did this dink do to my rifle???"



Just so happens I was heading to the gravel pit later with Eva Shockey to sight in her new rifle. I took my rifle with us.



Eva put a small empty water bottle up at 100yds. I shot two holes in it, both holes touching. Eva says "do that to MY rifle!!!!"



Absolutely nothing wrong with my gun. We sighted in Eva's rifle and headed back.



Eva and I walked into Wojo's office and I put the waterbottle on Wojo's table as he and Jim were debriefing........Jim smirked and commented that this guy couldnt shoot worth beans.

I'm surprised he use the competitions gun, either that or he was knocking his own company

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[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by 35 whelen

I'm surprised he use the competitions gun, either that or he was knocking his own company

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He had no choice. He used my Sako.

He wasn't the VP of Sako tho...... Lol

[Stinky Coyote]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

I had to lend my rifle to the vice president of a well known gun manufacturer while in the Yukon. He didnt do his paperwork properly and was denied bringing his rifle into Canada.

He took my rifle and was being guided by Jim Shockey.

After the hunt ended, I was on the dock to help them unload and see how it went.

Then this VP comes up.to me complaining that my rifle was garbage/inaccurate etc. etc.....apparently he hit a caribou in the ass, a wolf in the guts and needed 4 shots to put his moose down......hmmm. I was thinking " what did this dink do to my rifle???"

Just so happens I was heading to the gravel pit later with Eva Shockey to sight in her new rifle. I took my rifle with us.

Eva put a small empty water bottle up at 100yds. I shot two holes in it, both holes touching. Eva says "do that to MY rifle!!!!"

Absolutely nothing wrong with my gun. We sighted in Eva's rifle and headed back.

Eva and I walked into Wojo's office and I put the waterbottle on Wojo's table as he and Jim were debriefing........Jim smirked and commented that this guy couldnt shoot worth beans.

While this is an awesome post and i'd love to pm you for more lol, that's it in a nutshell really. It doesn't matter who you are, what you own, what you do for a living. Being a good 'closer' afield has eff all to do with the gun, it's the nut behind the trigger. He probably does fine on the range as many do. Same old story, fall apart on game when its the real deal.

Not sure how to train that into people other than more field time killing things, pest control, whatever it takes to get some notches in the belt? I know from experience that starting young helps a lot, turning kids loose with pellet guns and .22 before double digit ages and lots of ammo will create some natural born killers for sure.

Starting later in life, or limited field experience, is a real struggle for lots of people when its go time.

If you ever feel up to it...pm me more haha.

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by Stinky Coyote

While this is an awesome post and i'd love to pm you for more lol, that's it in a nutshell really. It doesn't matter who you are, what you own, what you do for a living. Being a good 'closer' afield has eff all to do with the gun, it's the nut behind the trigger. He probably does fine on the range as many do. Same old story, fall apart on game when its the real deal.

Not sure how to train that into people other than more field time killing things, pest control, whatever it takes to get some notches in the belt? I know from experience that starting young helps a lot, turning kids loose with pellet guns and .22 before double digit ages and lots of ammo will create some natural born killers for sure.

Starting later in life, or limited field experience, is a real struggle for lots of people when its go time.

If you ever feel up to it...pm me more haha.

Not much more to it really...

I was busy doing expediting and flying around so I really didnt need my rifle so I offered it to him.

Dan Goodenow (RIP) was with me when this guy was complaining about the rifle........Dan and I would room together so naturally after it all, we had a good laugh. Lol

I can see getting excited and having a hard time keeping the crosshairs steady. I get that. Im past that, but i understand. Seeing such magnificent animals is a dream for many. Im a bit numb to it.

But its the hunters responsibility to ensure the planets align before he or she pulls the trigger. Thats a live animal in those crosshairs and it deserves the best youve got to offer. Anything less than that is hard to justify to me.

[209x50]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

I had to lend my rifle to the vice president of a well known gun manufacturer while in the Yukon. He didnt do his paperwork properly and was denied bringing his rifle into Canada.

He took my rifle and was being guided by Jim Shockey.

After the hunt ended, I was on the dock to help them unload and see how it went.

Then this VP comes up.to me complaining that my rifle was garbage/inaccurate etc. etc.....apparently he hit a caribou in the ass, a wolf in the guts and needed 4 shots to put his moose down......hmmm. I was thinking " what did this dink do to my rifle???"

Just so happens I was heading to the gravel pit later with Eva Shockey to sight in her new rifle. I took my rifle with us.

Eva put a small empty water bottle up at 100yds. I shot two holes in it, both holes touching. Eva says "do that to MY rifle!!!!"

Absolutely nothing wrong with my gun. We sighted in Eva's rifle and headed back.

Eva and I walked into Wojo's office and I put the waterbottle on Wojo's table as he and Jim were debriefing........Jim smirked and commented that this guy couldnt shoot worth beans.

Was that the 30-06? As I recall it was a shooter!

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by 209x50

Was that the 30-06? As I recall it was a shooter!

Absolutely the best rifle I have

And each and every time I use it, I do remember where I got it. Lol

That was the best phone call ever. "Hey Randy, ive got this new rifle and its n your calibre..."

[Springer]

Originally Posted by trigger7mm

When watching all the hunting shows on T.V. have you ever noticed how poorly most of these guys shoot. Shot placement is poor. More often than not, the animal gets hit in the guts or on the edges. Too high, too low, too far back...They’re always leaving it until morning and hoping that they will find it. I fully agree with when in doubt, back out, but you see way more poorly placed shot than good, clean kill shots, especially the bowhunters. No bragging intended, but in my 40 years of bow hunting, I can only recall 2 or 3 times when a shot was poor. I think mostly because shots were only ever taken at close range where complete confidence was there for proper placement. Just seems like these T.V. superstar hunters should learn to shoot better.

The humorous part of it all is some of these celebrities are sponsored and bragging up the Scorpion Optics etc then can't hit ****, I have also seen the same celebrity take a 90 yd Hail Mary shot at an Elk with a Bow...I wouldn't be advertising that part on TV.

[35 whelen]

Originally Posted by Springer

The humorous part of it all is some of these celebrities are sponsored and bragging up the Scorpion Optics etc then can't hit ****, I have also seen the same celebrity take a 90 yd Hail Mary shot at an Elk with a Bow...I wouldn't be advertising that part on TV.

Yeah that stopped me watching that show from that moment on, actually I don't watch much of that junk anymore.

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[Bushrat]

Sometimes I wonder if the anti hunting lobby is behind the production of these shows in an effort to make people hate hunters. Many of those shows make us look like total idiot slobs. I can't imagine ethical hunters wanting to portray ourselves that way.

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

Sometimes I wonder if the anti hunting lobby is behind the production of these shows in an effort to make people hate hunters. Many of those shows make us look like total idiot slobs. I can't imagine ethical hunters wanting to portray ourselves that way.

You’d almost up think so eh? I never watch hunting shows, they’re crap.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

Sometimes I wonder if the anti hunting lobby is behind the production of these shows in an effort to make people hate hunters. Many of those shows make us look like total idiot slobs. I can't imagine ethical hunters wanting to portray ourselves that way.

Then again, I have seen things happen in the field that are every bit as bad as what you see on the shows. A friend and I still have a laugh over a certain hunt that we accompanied a friend on. Everything was legal, but it was like watching a cartoon, with such foul ups and poor shooting.

[Outbound]

The only hunting shows I watch are Steven Rinella's Meateater and Randy Newberg's Fresh Tracks. Nobody else really comes close to these guys in terms of ethics, conservation and passion for the sport.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by Springer

The humorous part of it all is some of these celebrities are sponsored and bragging up the Scorpion Optics etc then can't hit ****, I have also seen the same celebrity take a 90 yd Hail Mary shot at an Elk with a Bow...I wouldn't be advertising that part on TV.

Is that the one that wasn’t found till much later after the scavengers got to it...

LC

[Moosetalker]

My favorite is after clients are done checking their zero.
I take out my old single shot Hiawatha .410 smooth-bore some whatsoever is cheapest for slugs and getting an equal or better group with it at 100 meters. Usually they blame it on being sighted in with yards Not our damn metric poop.

[trigger7mm]

Just watched a show called Blitz. Same old thing, take a low quality shot and hope it works. Gotta get that dead deer footage. Why not wait for the perfect shot and nothing else?

[buckman]

Right up there with the Celeb Chefs,all show and no tell.

[Scruffee]

Originally Posted by trigger7mm

When watching all the hunting shows on T.V. have you ever noticed how poorly most of these guys shoot. Shot placement is poor. More often than not, the animal gets hit in the guts or on the edges. Too high, too low, too far back...

The average hunter is the same way though. Here in Sk, the average road hunter doesn't even get out of the truck or off the path if the deer don't drop dead... I think you overestimate the average hunter.

[trigger7mm]

Same thing here in Alberta. So many road hunters have will take a shot at an animal and not even go take a look if they don’t see it drop. I’ve found many wasted animals this way.

[mathews z7]

Lol I have a buddy who took some well known hunting show hosts Sheep hunting and apparently the Husband is a complete idiot , almost shot his camera man and didn’t care , the Hot wife was awesome and was the true hunter , the husband was soft as butter .


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[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by mathews z7

Lol I have a buddy who took some well known hunting show hosts Sheep hunting and apparently the Husband is a complete idiot , almost shot his camera man and didn’t care , the Hot wife was awesome and was the true hunter , the husband was soft as butter .


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Gotta be Pat and Nicole.

[270person]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

Gotta be Pat and Nicole.

Ralph & Vicky? Lol

Cody & whatever her name is...Ivanka?

[EZM]

It's real easy to be a sniper at the range with your gun clamped to a vise, and all the time in the world to punch holes in a piece of paper that is standing still at a known distance.

Then get out on the field, where you may or may not have time, may not be able to get down to shoot, or find a rest and your "master sniper badge" proves that you couldn't hot a pie plate at 100 yards.

Once I'm done verifying zero and making any scope adjustments - it's time to shoot from a couple different positions, off sticks, off hand, etc.. and try and count down a few seconds to try to train yourself to acquire the target, get settled on where you want the bullet to go (aim small miss small I always tell myself) and squeeze the trigger carefully ........... which is where the river hits the road on real hunters versus celebrity hunters.

Even with lots and lots of practice, my groups open up dramatically, and I owe it to the animal to take the shots that I can make. Nobody wants to wound and animal and chase it through the woods and have to haul it out 11 hours and 5 miles later.

These TV guys and celebrities doll up a $5000 custom rifle that can shoot paper at 1/2 MOA but can't hit a truck at 100 yards in real life.

As a few others, I enjoy the meat eater, he's a real guy, who walks, hikes, hunts, kills and cooks his game - like the rest of us "regular people"

He doesn't have a "team" of guys following him around to show him where the game is, or hauling out the game out of the woods for him, and gutting it for him - just like me - he needs to think about that.

That why I especially hate the African Safari shows - Husband and Wife all neat and clean, get out of a range rover, walk 30 yards and blast the hind quarters off their game ........... then the hired natives gotta go track it down and finish it off ..... off camera ...cut to next scene and there's the guy's wife posing with an eland.

hop back into the A/C SUV and head back to the resort and soak in the hot tub and drink a glass of bubbly and enjoy some caviar while the natives clean up and cape "your kill"