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08-29-2014, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberta Bigbore
I did it last year and will be doing it from now on. If i can get the truck to the moose.... i can have it loaded and ready to go home in half hour tops. Great fun. Makes life easier.
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Have I got a job for you......what ya doin' in 2 weeks!!!!!
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08-29-2014, 11:45 AM
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I would love to see it. All about learning new things. 27 minutes is light speed single handedly.
BTW, not picking on you I just have not seen anyone do that work that fast.
When we timed my dad and he get gutted a full deer in 3 minutes....I figured that was fast.
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08-29-2014, 11:55 AM
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Lol yup, your sure right, but defeats the purpose of the gutless method lol
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And it's just as easy to do it with the guts in and IMO much easier with a large animal.
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08-29-2014, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
I would love to see it. All about learning new things. 27 minutes is light speed single handedly.
BTW, not picking on you I just have not seen anyone do that work that fast.
When we timed my dad and he get gutted a full deer in 3 minutes....I figured that was fast.
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It was just a race on the clock. Purposely doing it fast. Now if i could learn how to make the steak and roast cuts prettier... id be happy.
And those funky knots for roasts. Ain't nobody got time! Lol
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08-29-2014, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
I would love to see it. All about learning new things. 27 minutes is light speed single handedly.
BTW, not picking on you I just have not seen anyone do that work that fast.
When we timed my dad and he get gutted a full deer in 3 minutes....I figured that was fast.
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I think JohninAB guts deer in that time too.
Game hoists are nice. But by the time u set them up.. you could already be done lol
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08-29-2014, 12:35 PM
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Have I got a job for you......what ya doin' in 2 weeks!!!!!
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Lol
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08-29-2014, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberta Bigbore
Yes.. with a havalon.. even lower limbs can be removed with a havalon. Piranta edge is a gidt from the gods.
Although if i get an elk... i think im going to debone on sight and see how that goes. One thing i learned from a friend... is carry some emergency space blankets... to put quarters or deboned meat on. Keeps it clean. And they are cheeeeeeeap. Those silver thinga all folded up neat.
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I hate havalons ....well I don't mind them for certain jobs I have used them for capeing and breasting birds but found they to dull way to quick when doing a serious job.
I'll let you try one of my D2 steel knives that I have sharpened to shaving sharp then you will appreciate a real knife!!!!
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08-29-2014, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike_W
I hate havalons ....well I don't mind them for certain jobs I have used them for capeing and breasting birds but found they to dull way to quick when doing a serious job.
I'll let you try one of my D2 steel knives that I have sharpened to shaving sharp then you will appreciate a real knife!!!!
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Ain't nobody got time!!!!
Dull? Clip on a new blade last year i helped do two deer on one blade.. and its still razor sharp. Just dont touch bones
I have a cutco id sell for cheap.. but its good for cutting frozen hamburger.
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08-29-2014, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberta Bigbore
I think JohninAB guts deer in that time too.
Game hoists are nice. But by the time u set them up.. you could already be done lol
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Tractors work really good as well, you can drive over any smaller trees and pick up with bucket and good to go
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Ain't nobody got time!!!!
Dull? Clip on a new blade last year i helped do two deer on one blade.. and its still razor sharp. Just dont touch bones
I have a cutco id sell for cheap.. but its good for cutting frozen hamburger.
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I agree with you, i did a whole cow elk with on blade using the torch and it took two blades on a rutting bull only because i put on a fresh blade to came him out
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08-29-2014, 01:16 PM
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I'm just not sure how removing the guts would have been helpful.
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08-29-2014, 01:17 PM
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Skinning with a Havalon is amazing!
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08-29-2014, 01:22 PM
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I am old fashioned....we age our large game animals 2-3 weeks. I like opening the cooler and seeing this.
Or even a couple more critters
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08-29-2014, 01:25 PM
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I am old fashioned....we age our large game animals 2-3 weeks. I like opening the cooler and seeing this.
Or even a couple more critters
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How are you going to do that with a Moose that is 5 miles from the truck?
If I can all the bone stays in the quarters. That way they can hang.
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08-29-2014, 01:26 PM
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How are you going to do that with a Moose that is 5 miles from the truck?
If I can all the bone stays in the quarters. That way they can hang.
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I just hunt from the road....laughing!
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08-29-2014, 01:34 PM
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I just hunt from the road....laughing!
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Exceptionally brilliant plan actually.
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08-29-2014, 01:45 PM
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I just hunt from the road....laughing!
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You road hunt with a bow? Thats awesome. Just rest the stabalizer on the truck mirror covered in a (censored) lol jks.
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08-29-2014, 02:26 PM
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For the record im willing to help anyone hunting wmu936 ( not so far away) do thiers ..for the extra practice.. and put my Badlands OX to work
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That's mighty big of you, ABB! Too bad I didn't get a tag for this year...
But seriously, if I do tag out in 936 the future (next year?) it would sure be nice to have someone like you to show a gutless newbie the ropes. I'd love to learn how to do that.
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08-29-2014, 03:33 PM
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Wasted meat
When you see how dirty and full of leaves, pine needles, grass and bullet holes some animals come into butcher shops, there are people who should be charged with wasting meat. Sorry for the derail
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08-29-2014, 08:58 PM
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Thoughts on this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X4kJIrW1IDM
I think there is a fair bit left behind IMHO.....
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08-29-2014, 09:08 PM
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If you have to pack things out or do not have access to equipment to haul things out, etc.....no question it is a good method.
We prefer to extract our animals whole and process them back in my garage that is set up to deal with whole animals....them swing them into the walk I. Cooler to chill and age.
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What do you do with the guts? Fertilizer?
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08-29-2014, 09:32 PM
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What do you do with the guts? Fertilizer?
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Whole....minus guts
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08-29-2014, 10:34 PM
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Sure made it look quick and easy although if I was that close to the house I'd probably get it home, hanging and utilize every bit possible.
Good video none the less.
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08-29-2014, 11:31 PM
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I learned that over thirty years ago when I started guiding in the NWT. Sure it wasn't a new thing then and works like a hot damn. Works really good when the hunter only wants a European mount, otherwise a bit of caping first. Just be careful with the edible meat thing. In the NWT all meat had to be taken and that meant ALL, even the thin strips between the ribs that are left in the video.
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08-30-2014, 12:36 AM
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what about aging?
I'm going to try it this year on my WT.
How do the 'gutless' guys hang & age the meat?
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08-30-2014, 07:26 AM
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I have tried the gutless meathod and don't care for it. the only time I will do the gutless method is if somehow the animal accidentally gets hit in the guts. the gutless method is finicky and if my dad is around he has the guts out in minutes. plus it doesn't feel right not having blood half way up your arms! we also take the heart and liver out and this requires pulling the guts out. also the tender loins are way easier to get when the guts are out. I don't see any advantage to the gutless method for speed or neatness, unless the animal is hit in the guts.
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08-30-2014, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike_W
I hate havalons ....well I don't mind them for certain jobs I have used them for capeing and breasting birds but found they to dull way to quick when doing a serious job.
I'll let you try one of my D2 steel knives that I have sharpened to shaving sharp then you will appreciate a real knife!!!!
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The knife used in the video is a danged Leatherman!
I know I haave used my multi plier at one time and I think leeper has used a leatherman as well.
They work, but i prefer "nice" knives", same as when I hunt I like guns that I like as fine rifles, not just tools with no character to them.
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08-30-2014, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hunter1993ap
I have tried the gutless meathod and don't care for it. the only time I will do the gutless method is if somehow the animal accidentally gets hit in the guts. the gutless method is finicky and if my dad is around he has the guts out in minutes. plus it doesn't feel right not having blood half way up your arms! we also take the heart and liver out and this requires pulling the guts out. also the tender loins are way easier to get when the guts are out. I don't see any advantage to the gutless method for speed or neatness, unless the animal is hit in the guts.
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On a big animal (elk or moose) I disagree there is a big time saver in not gutting the animal and to take out the heart and liver it is quite simple with a saw just cut a square out from the ribs and reach in.
I like the gutless method especially when I am back in the bush (which is almost always)
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08-30-2014, 09:01 AM
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The knife used in the video is a danged Leatherman!
I know I haave used my multi plier at one time and I think leeper has used a leatherman as well.
They work, but i prefer "nice" knives", same as when I hunt I like guns that I like as fine rifles, not just tools with no character to them.
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For me it's all about the steel I have two d2 steel knives one at 59 Rockwell and one at 61 they both hold an edge amazingly. I can cut through fur and hide like nothing and on a bull elk or moose they are usually rather dirty.
I usually can go a whole season without sharpening my knives, one year my 59 RW d2 skinned and quartered 6 moose 2 elk and a deer...... I don't need replacement blades and can actually use the knife in an aggressive matter!!
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08-30-2014, 09:05 AM
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I'm going to try it this year on my WT.
How do the 'gutless' guys hang & age the meat?
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On racks in the fridge.
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08-30-2014, 09:16 AM
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On a big animal (elk or moose) I disagree there is a big time saver in not gutting the animal and to take out the heart and liver it is quite simple with a saw just cut a square out from the ribs and reach in.
I like the gutless method especially when I am back in the bush (which is almost always)
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How much time do you save by not gutting? 10-15 mins?
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