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Old 08-21-2014, 12:05 PM
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Any body ever shoot blind side 3" 2 shot? I was told it's good for geese all year round. Was I bull****ted?

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Old 08-21-2014, 12:07 PM
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Any body ever shoot blind side 3" 2 shot? I was told it's good for geese all year round. Was I bull****ted?

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I liked them for the closer shots under 35 yards the dropped em dead but anything out pass that I found they didn't work that great some more guys love them
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Old 08-21-2014, 01:04 PM
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That's actually my load of choice. In BB.
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Old 08-21-2014, 02:28 PM
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I bought a case from flys etc in High River, guy told me that 3" 2 shot are good for geese all season. I hope he's right.
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I bought a case from flys etc in High River, guy told me that 3" 2 shot are good for geese all season. I hope he's right.
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I bought a case from flys etc in High River, guy told me that 3" 2 shot are good for geese all season. I hope he's right.
That is all I use and works great all season for geese and ducks.
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Old 08-21-2014, 02:42 PM
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[ QUOTE=residentguide;2525655]That is all I use and works great all season for geese and ducks.[/QUOTE]

Perfect man, all I needed to hear!

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Old 08-21-2014, 04:56 PM
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I just patterned it at 30 yds, I got 22 pellets in a 6-1/4" diameter circle. It's going fast enough if should work just a good as BB for geese.
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I use blind side #2's in a 2 3/4" man. Year round. You have more than enough shell
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I use blind side #2's in a 2 3/4" man. Year round. You have more than enough shell

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Old 08-24-2014, 12:48 PM
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I have used them with great success. Anyone ever try that super expensive heavy shot?
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Old 08-28-2014, 06:36 PM
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I'm blown through a case of them. Gramps loves them. I'm still a black cloud kinda guy.

As for heavi shot... I've been using it since I can remember(though not always)... but I only load one shell for my last round. Don't go through it as much and it gives that extra oomph when you're starting to stretch your stove pipe
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In my opinion, 3" #2's are more of a late season duck load (bigger ducks). Typical goose loads for me are 3 1/2", BB's. But I've not used Blindside before - maybe the pellet shape compensates in some way.
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Old 08-28-2014, 07:55 PM
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As for hevi-shot - too expensive for me!
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Hypersonic steel are pretty hard hitting goose loads they kick like a mule but they work
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Old 08-28-2014, 07:57 PM
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In my opinion, 3" #2's are more of a late season duck load (bigger ducks). Typical goose loads for me are 3 1/2", BB's. But I've not used Blindside before - maybe the pellet shape compensates in some way.
We must be bringing our birds in closer.
I have never shot a 3 1/2" round or BB for that matter, neither has my partner, and we limit with no issues when the birds are flying.
He uses a 12 gauge 2 3/4" Remington 100 with 2's , and depending on which gun I grab it's either a 20 gauge O/U or a vintage hammer double 12 with Bismuth or Nice Shot 2's, or 4's and black powder.
I do have a 3" SXS hammer double that is rated for steel however, and used some Fassteel in it last year.
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We must be bringing our birds in closer.
I have never shot a 3 1/2" round or BB for that matter, neither has my partner, and we limit with no issues when the birds are flying.
He uses a 12 gauge 2 3/4" Remington 100 with 2's , and depending on which gun I grab it's either a 20 gauge O/U or a vintage hammer double 12 with Bismuth or Nice Shot 2's, or 4's and black powder.
I do have a 3" SXS hammer double that is rated for steel however, and used some Fassteel in it last year.
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But the marketing gurus say that the shot has to be big. Hel they even print it right on the boxes!
I have to laugh at what I used to use for shot when steel first came out. I bought into the whole BBB and F or T hype for the first couple of years. Now I shoot what patterns best. It happens to be 3 1/2" Kent 2's. I know 3 1/2" isn't necessary but they work well. If I can't find that load I shoot 3" 1's. Both at 1550 fps.
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Old 08-28-2014, 09:31 PM
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But the marketing gurus say that the shot has to be big. Hel they even print it right on the boxes!
I have to laugh at what I used to use for shot when steel first came out. I bought into the whole BBB and F or T hype for the first couple of years. Now I shoot what patterns best. It happens to be 3 1/2" Kent 2's. I know 3 1/2" isn't necessary but they work well. If I can't find that load I shoot 3" 1's. Both at 1550 fps.
I don't laugh at what we used when steel shot first came out and the reason for this is that those first Steel loads were very slow 1275 ft/sec or so, so largest Steel pellets would be superior as caring more energy at the same velocity as smaller pellets.
Now with minimum 1550 ft/sec and some loads reaching 1700 ft/sec we can use smaller steel pellets as they carry energy or momentum much further.

I have some old T size shells in 3" at 1275 ft/sec but I would rather shoot 23/4 shells of # 2 Steel at 1600-1700.

I did some Steel reloading early on and one load of 2 3/4" in T's was 1600ft.sec they did performed as well as those of lead #2 or BB"s.

Choosing Goose load I would Look for velocity not for shell length and so called payload.

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Old 08-28-2014, 11:03 PM
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Well for what it is worth, I prefer steel in the larger shot sizes (BB -2) simply cuz the larger shot penetrates better (meaning it often goes straight through the bird) and is easier to find when processing if it doesn't if it doesn't! Smaller shot certainly kills but there is nothing worse than the missus breaking a tooth on a steel pellet if you ever want her to cook your goose again!

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I used to load 12ga 1-3/8oz in lead, #2 & #5, @ 1330, many yrs ago. Also 1-1/4oz #3 or #5 in 20ga, think they were @ 1275 ?. Those loads killed birds really well. Now, for the same load in a 12 in #1 or 2 or BB, have to go 3-1/2 @ 1550, can't get better than a 1oz @ 1350 in 20ga, except for Blindside, which I'll pass on, think it is 1-1/16 @ 1300? The 1oz 1350's work well on birds out to 30 or so, ducks a bit farther on straightaways.
It's mostly psychological, but, I still believe in having as many pellets as I can going out there. The Hypersonics really don't make enough difference over the 1550 or 1625 loads to make them worthwhile to me. And I have seen a few reports of them being hard on guns, as well as shoulders.
I'll find out about some of the 12ga 3" loads this year in the SXS, went with Kents @ 1425 in #3 and BB 1-1/4, see how they do. They patterned well. I have some 2-3/4's to use up also, 1-1/8 @ 1550.
I'll use them for the earlier birds that come in better, then when they start gaining altitude later on, probably switch to the SBE w/3-1/2 @ 1550.

Going to be an interesting year. See how it goes.
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Old 08-29-2014, 02:12 PM
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I used to load 12ga 1-3/8oz in lead, #2 & #5, @ 1330, many yrs ago. Also 1-1/4oz #3 or #5 in 20ga, think they were @ 1275 ?. Those loads killed birds really well. Now, for the same load in a 12 in #1 or 2 or BB, have to go 3-1/2 @ 1550, can't get better than a 1oz @ 1350 in 20ga, except for Blindside, which I'll pass on, think it is 1-1/16 @ 1300? The 1oz 1350's work well on birds out to 30 or so, ducks a bit farther on straightaways.
It's mostly psychological, but, I still believe in having as many pellets as I can going out there. The Hypersonics really don't make enough difference over the 1550 or 1625 loads to make them worthwhile to me. And I have seen a few reports of them being hard on guns, as well as shoulders.
I'll find out about some of the 12ga 3" loads this year in the SXS, went with Kents @ 1425 in #3 and BB 1-1/4, see how they do. They patterned well. I have some 2-3/4's to use up also, 1-1/8 @ 1550.
I'll use them for the earlier birds that come in better, then when they start gaining altitude later on, probably switch to the SBE w/3-1/2 @ 1550.

Going to be an interesting year. See how it goes.
It should be noted that a ounce of steel has more pellets than a ounce of lead. eg: a ounce of lead #2 has 86 pellets whereas steel has 125.
A 3 inch 20 gauge with 1 1/4 oz of lead #2's had approx 107 pellets with a max speed of around 1200 fps. A Kent Fassteel 3 inch 20 gauge with 7/8 ounce of steel #2's has approx 109 pellets with a speed of 1550 fps. If the steel patterns well in your gun it is every bit as effective as the lead loads.
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Used them most of the year last season. You'll have no problems as long as you're hitting them.
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As im most cases, its the Indian, and not the arrow!!!
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You'll have no problems as long as you're hitting them.
Unfortunately, that is usually the problem, when someone isn't killing geese. Many people try to make up for inadequate shot placement, by going to larger payloads of shot. Shooting skeet or sporting clays during the summer, will do far more to improve your success on geese, than switching to larger capacity, or more expensive ammunition.
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