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01-14-2017, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 1899b
Stocks are easy to find for the Rossi ranch hand. You are right the short stock is silly. So I converted mine.
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Now that's what I'm talking about! Nice rig!
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01-14-2017, 10:01 PM
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.50 BMG, it's just too big.
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01-14-2017, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bushleague
Same here, it has nothing to do with the cartridges... more to do with the people that I've hunted with who love these cartridges. The type of people who think that shooting a .300 mag proves their superior virility, the guys that call anything smaller a pea-shooter, when they tell you what they shoot its like a grand proclamation their voice drops a couple of octaves when they get to the "MAGNUM" part...
I've never really seen a need for any magnum, but to me the .300 Mags in particular are like Tapout shirts, lifted duallys, and chrome testicles for you truck.
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You are bang on sir. I am fine with my plain t shirt, non lifted stock dodge powered by a stock cummins engine and my boring vanilla .30-06
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An awful lot of big game was killed with the .30-06 including the big bears before everyone became affluent enough to own a rifle for every species of game they might hunt.
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01-14-2017, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bushleague
Same here, it has nothing to do with the cartridges... more to do with the people that I've hunted with who love these cartridges. The type of people who think that shooting a .300 mag proves their superior virility, the guys that call anything smaller a pea-shooter, when they tell you what they shoot its like a grand proclamation their voice drops a couple of octaves when they get to the "MAGNUM" part...
I've never really seen a need for any magnum, but to me the .300 Mags in particular are like Tapout shirts, lifted duallys, and chrome testicles for you truck.
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That's why I hunt solo ,i couldn't care less what another guy shoots,lotsa military guys and vets are very fond of there 300 win and there's a very good reason and it sure ain't ego or chrome testicles ,it's there tool to do a job right and the 300 win is a fine tool,i don't own one at this moment ,but owned a few ,but it's a great cartridge and it's in the hands off ,secret service ,military snipers,police officers ,swat teams and many a proud hunter who think and know the capabilities of this round.There's many reason's to own one and it has nothing to do with the word magnum,to me it's a 300 win.
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01-14-2017, 11:44 PM
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Anything in .17. They make for a spectacular gopher death, but I've always shot gophers to kill them, not tear them in half. The old .22lr works just fine & way cheaper to shoot.
I have no idea why anyone would want a .460 Weatherby mag either. Shot one once, and even with a muzzle brake it was a beast. Scope cut waiting to happen, & T-Rex is extinct.
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01-15-2017, 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
.303, just because Cat likes it enough for six of us so why bother? Also don't see much reason to have anything bigger than a .300 WM, though I did have a .416 Rigby for a while....I don't have anything against the .375 H&H, or all the other great big bores....just don't see a need for one.
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Bahahahahahahaha. 1st part.
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01-15-2017, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ForwardBias
7 rem mag. Dont know what it is, just never dug it.
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Yup.
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01-15-2017, 06:14 AM
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Not sure where so much .270 hate comes from? It shoots about as flat as most magnums, hits hard enough to kill a moose, and has very tolerable recoil. I guess I sort of have trouble wrapping my hear around which part of that is so undesirable? Ditto on the 30-06.
Personally I don't even care about the cartridge, as I don't feel it much matters. Give me a gun that doesnt weigh too much, isn't too long, and isn't over scoped... in practically anything bigger than .243, and I'll happily hunt anything you want. Though if its a .300 mag I might wear a bag over my head until I get far enough into the bush than nobody can see me
If I have one bias its against Tikka's, all my formative shooting years were spent with Mauser based rifles, and as a result, to me, Tikka's just feel like toys. I could probably learn to tolerate them if they cost less, but no way am I spending that kind of money on them. I've had plenty of cheap rifles that shot good, and that's just what they were... their accuracy alone didn't make them worth $900.
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01-15-2017, 06:59 AM
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.22WMR.....too big for rabbits and grouse,too small for yotes beyond 100y,4x more $ to shot then .22lr....I just cant justify any niche it fills or anything it does better then any .22 rimfire or centerfire?
.410 is another that I just can't get behind.Had one briefly,have hunted a bit with a cpl others...lots of poor results in my experience.
Never thought I'd ever buy a .243 neither.as I've always thought of it as a bit heavy for yotes and a bit light for my liking for bigger game.....but I bought one for my 13yo son's first rifle last fall and am now "intrigued" with it I guess you could say?Might also have a bit to do with my NB upbringing,with caliber restriction of <.23 for 10 months of the year.....pretty much useless as a coyote rifle and not my first choice nor even top 10 for deer/moose.........243s are unicorns in NB.
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01-15-2017, 07:22 AM
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01-15-2017, 10:43 AM
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270 elk
One other rifle I never really took to was a 25 06 the 270 is my go to rifles got two
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01-15-2017, 11:16 AM
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Remington 700 - poor qc. if it has to be put on a lathe out of the box to outshoot a savage, it wasn't made right (custom actions are acceptable).
30-06 - more weight, more recoil, no more effectiveness than a 308
Weatherby mark v or any weatherby cartridge - custom cost without the performance. Nope
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01-15-2017, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bcpappy
No 7.62x39 for me, no sks or anything similar. I always get a laugh out of the guys that try to make an sks more tacicool but it still looks and shoots like sh&t.
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^pretty much felt this way for about 20 years. However, I bought my first (and only) SKS a year ago. Do I love the thing? No. Do I use it allot? Also "no". However, it's a fun gun to have when you want a break from hand loading...seating bullets .010" off the lands, pouring powder to within .1 of a grain, trying to achieve 1/2 MOA off a rest, etc. etc.
That said~I feel the same way about the "tacticool" ones I see. Only upgrade to mine was a finer front target post and a front sight adjustment too. Only 2 things you really need to make those rifles behave. They are what they are, a cheap..interesting pc. of military history that tends to put a nice-sized smile on your face, whether you're experienced...or a new shooter.
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01-15-2017, 01:32 PM
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I see a lot of people hating on 30-06 so I feel the need to provide some thoughts. I understand that on paper, it doesn't stack up so well. 308 has better/flatter ballistics.
But like the 44-40, it has a proven track record. It's restively cheap, you can find it anywhere, you can size up or down as needed (125-200 grain)
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01-15-2017, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by J_mcrane
I see a lot of people hating on 30-06 so I feel the need to provide some thoughts. I understand that on paper, it doesn't stack up so well. 308 has better/flatter ballistics.
But like the 44-40, it has a proven track record. It's restively cheap, you can find it anywhere, you can size up or down as needed (125-200 grain)
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There is nothing wrong with the 30-06, it's just that almost everybody had one and I felt I had to be different.
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01-15-2017, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bcpappy
No 7.62x39 for me, no sks or anything similar. I always get a laugh out of the guys that try to make an sks more tacicool but it still looks and shoots like sh&t.
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X 2! But in all reverence , an sks probably would suffice for a lightning rod if it was bolted to a tin roof on an outhouse,,
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01-15-2017, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by silver
There is nothing wrong with the 30-06, it's just that almost everybody had one and I felt I had to be different.
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That was my feeling as well and then I thought I might be missing something so I bought one. A Remington CDL. It was just an OK rifle. A jack of all.....but master of none.
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01-15-2017, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by J_mcrane
I see a lot of people hating on 30-06 so I feel the need to provide some thoughts. I understand that on paper, it doesn't stack up so well. 308 has better/flatter ballistics.
But like the 44-40, it has a proven track record. It's restively cheap, you can find it anywhere, you can size up or down as needed (125-200 grain)
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How in the world does the 308 outrun the 30-06?
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01-15-2017, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck
How in the world does the 308 outrun the 30-06?
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The " Disney Effect," there are many Scientific papers based on such findings,,,
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01-15-2017, 03:46 PM
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For me, it is any Weatherby and any Ruger#1
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01-15-2017, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by J_mcrane
I see a lot of people hating on 30-06 so I feel the need to provide some thoughts. I understand that on paper, it doesn't stack up so well. 308 has better/flatter ballistics.
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Thoughts can be wrong!
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01-15-2017, 04:14 PM
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I will never own a Browning BLR, those have to be one of the butt-ugliest monstrosities ever to chamber a cartridge. Not only will I never own one, I wouldn't even store one in my safe for a good friend! A guy's gotta have his standards!
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01-15-2017, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CaberTosser
I will never own a Browning BLR, those have to be one of the butt-ugliest monstrosities ever to chamber a cartridge. Not only will I never own one, I wouldn't even store one in my safe for a good friend! A guy's gotta have his standards!
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<<< , then there are the chrome BLR's bwahahaha
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01-15-2017, 05:52 PM
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Anything more powerful than a .308 Win.
Never had the urge to get anything more powerful than a .308 for hunting. Since I hunt white tail almost exclusively, I dont need anything larger
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01-15-2017, 09:35 PM
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.303, 7rem mag, .22-250, .410, .17hmr ... Just the short list.
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01-15-2017, 09:53 PM
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Any magnum or weatherby cartridge. I like efficient cartridge's, and just have never given the weatherby's a chance, but don't feel like starting g now.
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01-15-2017, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck
How in the world does the 308 outrun the 30-06?
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Same way a 300WSM outruns a 300Wby.
Somebody lies about it...
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01-15-2017, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck
How in the world does the 308 outrun the 30-06?
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...when you forget to put powder in the 30-06 case.
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01-15-2017, 11:15 PM
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Anything bigger than a .308, with the possible exception of the .338 Lapua Magnum, and the .17.
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01-15-2017, 11:55 PM
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The golden bullet. Hopefully i never need to use it. Really im so new into diffrent firearms that i will probably go back on my word. I dont get the weird off cut cartridges i see you guys posting about for long range uses. Not much of a 17hmr guy 22 is good enough and im broke. Wouldnt say no to shooting these but not sure i would buy. Also mares legs and other short stocked shotguns and rifles. Seems hard to hold and controll with a lot of recoil.
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