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05-06-2016, 06:10 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Ceramic Brake Pads
Going to throw some Ceramic Brake Pads in my 3/4 ton truck.
Any experts on these pads .
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05-06-2016, 06:16 PM
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When I still had my 2009 Ram 2500 I put Hawk HB299Z.650 pads on it and cross drilled rotors. Made a big difference when I had the truck camper on the back
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05-06-2016, 06:20 PM
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how were they in the rain
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05-06-2016, 06:29 PM
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Well, that was a few years ago, but I don't recall any negative issues with them.
I purposely went with cross drilled rotors at the same time because I had heard that the ceramics create and hold a lot more heat. Maybe this would help with water displacement as well?
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05-06-2016, 06:48 PM
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My rotors are still good,was not going to change them, a little pricy also .
$350 for two.
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05-06-2016, 07:51 PM
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Check the prices from http://www.rockauto.com/
I buy from them and the pricing is quite good.
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05-06-2016, 08:51 PM
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I have always matched premium pads to premium rotors. The cheaper rotors are often made from recycled material where premium are new steel. The cooling fins on cheap rotors are thicker and do not provide as much cooling. The braking surface is often thicker on the premium rotors which also helps with heat absorption created by the ceramic pads.
I have run the Napa premium line pads and rotors for 10+ years on all my HD trucks with great results.
Excessive heat from a cheap rotor can even shorten the life of a premium pad. Glazed pads from cheap rotors will lead to crappy braking.
If you are only changing pads don't waste money on premium ceramic. Economy ceramic or semi metallics will be just as good.
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05-07-2016, 02:59 PM
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All truths. Don't run ceramic pads without drilled/and or slotted rotors.
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05-07-2016, 04:04 PM
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i usually run the cheaper pads . my theory is that the better the pads , the harder they are on the rotors . pads are way easier and cheaper to change than rotors . this is only my opinion . I am not an expert or a mechanic .
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05-07-2016, 07:55 PM
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I run them on my explorer. Loved them. Did rotors and brakes and I could tell a big difference on the very next hard stop i did. When I find one, I will run them on my next 1 ton.
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05-08-2016, 03:47 PM
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I've generally used cheap rotors and mid-grade (semi-metallic) pads for everyday use (commuting to work, getting groceries, etc). I've only ever used premium pads and rotors on higher demand applications (performance cars, heavy towing, etc). I would also recommend drilled rotors while using ceramics.
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05-08-2016, 04:03 PM
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I've run them twice on 2 separate vehicles and noticed they definitely run cooler as I never warped a rotor.
On the downside, braking power is seriously sacrificed compared to semi-metalic pads.
So much that I won't buy them anymore.
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05-08-2016, 04:43 PM
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semi metallic for me as well
all the ceramic ones did is make noise & squeal
I thought that would change once I drove for a bit. Not!
I could not wait to get them off my truck
my .02 cents
Orv.
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05-08-2016, 09:42 PM
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wow ,just hearing to many good replies.
some say really good and others say not good .
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05-08-2016, 09:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -JR-
wow ,just hearing to many good replies.
some say really good and others say not good .
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I'm surprised at the negative's too. They were noticeably better than my standard metallic pads as far as stopping power.
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05-08-2016, 10:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by liar
i usually run the cheaper pads . my theory is that the better the pads , the harder they are on the rotors . pads are way easier and cheaper to change than rotors . this is only my opinion . I am not an expert or a mechanic .
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If you can change your own pads the above is the way to go imho. Youll go through pads a bit more but not rotors. In fact if i can get them i still run non metallics for that very reason on my stuff.
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05-08-2016, 11:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cranky
If you can change your own pads the above is the way to go imho. Youll go through pads a bit more but not rotors. In fact if i can get them i still run non metallics for that very reason on my stuff.
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One time i was asked, economy brake pads, middle of the road or top end metallic. I went economy as they were going on the wife's car and it only was used in the city. Those economy pads squeaked to high heaven and until they wore out, my wife squeaked till high heaven if you know what i mean. Her car never got economy again
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05-08-2016, 11:23 PM
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Join Date: May 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooner
One time i was asked, economy brake pads, middle of the road or top end metallic. I went economy as they were going on the wife's car and it only was used in the city. Those economy pads squeaked to high heaven and until they wore out, my wife squeaked till high heaven if you know what i mean. Her car never got economy again
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Funny story. Although maybe not at the time though for you. lol Hope they wore out fast in your case
Yup ive had econo metallics squeal but not non metallic.
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05-09-2016, 12:37 AM
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Been running ATE slotted rotors and ceramic pads on my car for years now, it's the only thing that lasts. Tried everything else on the market, managed to get a year before the rotors warped. Cost a little more, but worth it IMO.
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05-09-2016, 02:53 AM
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I am a HD mechanic, when ever you rub two surfaces together you generate heat and wear, generally the softer compound wear's at a much higher rate.
I am not sold on ceramic brakes, yep they last longer, but you expensive disks don't,
Saving money on brakes in my view is a fools game, what you want is the best pr of matched items, that can stop your vehicle in the shortest distance.
I struggle to believe that two pieces, of vey hard dissimilar materials are going to do that.
premium, metallic, brake disks are my choice.
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