Fortis thugs

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by Jayhad

I'm with Fortis on this one

Somebody has been self isolating for too long.

Grizz

[MooseRiverTrapper]

Should cut your power off then you can really isolate lol.

[blgoodbrand1]

Well i can’t speak to fortis but the atco contractor that was at my place several times throughout the summer...8 guys with saws spent 1 day bucking up a 30’ poplar tree.


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[Cement Bench]

Originally Posted by blgoodbrand1

Well i can’t speak to fortis but the atco contractor that was at my place several times throughout the summer...8 guys with saws spent 1 day bucking up a 30’ poplar tree.


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cannot speak for taco but fortis contracts specify they are paid only per individual order processed

and normally one per location I.e. tap, that is from the main line to the line into your house or shop

so the fact that it takes weeks is no concern of taco or fortis

the contractor can go broke though

[amosfella]

Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher

That's 'cause you can't kill those freakin' things! I've tried!

ARG

Yes, you can kill caragana. You just have to want it to live where you put it. Next thing you know, it's dead.

[amosfella]

I've never had trouble with Arborteck. They've been pretty great for me. The chipped up a pile of wood that I had laying around while they were there, and did some extra pruning on trees that was outside my scope to do. They also brought us piles and piles of wood chips that dad wanted rather than taking them to the dump.

[Redneck 7]

We called fortis about a spruce that snapped 3/4 the way up and the top 1/4 was hanging down over the power line. They said they’d look into it within 5 business days. So we couldn’t park in our main driveway or walk under this widow maker. Anyways buddy showed up 10 days later and said nope nothing we can do, he said the power line had a cover so it’s protected.

I was quite torqued about this so I had to cut down a 50’ tall spruce tree in my yard that I didn’t want gone.

There was no safe way for me to get up there and cut it down besides renting an awp so I just dropped the whole tree. Sure made my power line stretch when the tree fell over. Both power poles were shaking pretty good, I kinda wished at the time that the line broke. Then I could call them and say come fix my power, the tree you said wouldn’t be a problem is now a problem.

Sorry you had another bad experience with them, I was quite surprised you actually had someone come do line maintenance.

[Jason Bourne]

Originally Posted by nimrod

Well Im not on Fortis side, comes from 3 years ago, we are in the country, REA here , when in the spring, the power went out, call the REA they found the down power line, under the fortis area, REA tells fortis, we can fix it for you so everyone down the line can have power, Fortis says, no we can fix it, crew comes out, then after 3 hours, crew says, we are out of time, for our 8 hours a day, we will come back tomorrow, so now over 30 homes have no power over night, under 0 temps, more like -10 at night, Im not a Fortis fan.

Fact: In some areas there are Fortis customers fed from REA lines and vice versa.
Fact. Fortis PLT's CANNOT operate REA equipment NOR can REA PLT's operate Fortis equipment.
Fact. Fortis PLT's can work 16 hrs in a 24 hr period but then must take a minimum 8 hrs rest. Is it possible they had already worked 12 or 13 hours before showing up at your place and had to leave to be back at their office before the 16 hr limit?

[Cement Bench]

Originally Posted by Jason Bourne

Fact: In some areas there are Fortis customers fed from REA lines and vice versa.
Fact. Fortis PLT's CANNOT operate REA equipment NOR can REA PLT's operate Fortis equipment.
Fact. Fortis PLT's can work 16 hrs in a 24 hr period but then must take a minimum 8 hrs rest. Is it possible they had already worked 12 or 13 hours before showing up at your place and had to leave to be back at their office before the 16 hr limit?

you are correct my friend

wish more people knew the facts

dislike rea’s a lot

fortis and atco are not my friends either the system is really screwed up

[RandyBoBandy]

For those of us that are not edjumacated..what is the acronym REA?? I google it but

[Cement Bench]

Originally Posted by RandyBoBandy

For those of us that are not edjumacated..what is the acronym REA?? I google it but

rural electrification association

[RandyBoBandy]

Thank you Sir

[Cement Bench]

REA created by stature in the early 50’s

run by rural people usually the largest farmers in the area and their friends

fortis cannot do anything if the rea does not approve it in the REA

in our rea fortis has double the customers the rea has and the corrupt rea controls what goes on

all fortis can do is to say to the alberta utilities commission the work could not be done as the rea would not approve their share

and write to the rea to say if you don’t control the underbrush and a fire starts we are not liable as we warned you

the rea’s are not held to fortis standards by the province

there used to be over 400 rea’s now less than 40

Equs the biggest rea in Canada (although there are only rea’s in Alberta so they are not telling the truth)

folks like Neerlandia rea sold out with a 97 % in favour of a buyout a few years back

when people get the facts they sell

then the grid is more stable and can get things done without interference by the little farmers trying to be big players

[marky_mark]

Fortis, atco, epcor, enmax, all have top notch crews

People don’t realize the risks that these guys face every day
One little mistake, means your dead and getting cooked from the inside out

When i did aerial damages, I never ever seen any of those companies pack up and go home and leave people out of service. Ever!
If they were houred out
They brought in new guys

Heck, most of the time the replace poles, they do it hot so that they don’t take people out of service

[Ruffnuts]

Thanks for feedback positive and negative. There welcome to access the tree providing they call first and where a mask.i wont apologize to anyone to protect myself from stupid people.Fortis is going change the way they access your property during a pandemic. It was a heads up not a fingerup

[TreeGuy]

Oh man, this is my favourite thread of 2020. So many memories and laughs.

The tree world is divided into three groups. There’s the forestry/fallers, the utility trimmers and the urban arborists/climbers. Each one of us believes we have the toughest, most dangerous gig. Much debate ensures as there’s a peculiar sort of pride working in such a profession. Lol

I hung the gear up 10 years ago after 20 seasons in urban settings, ultimately becoming a heavy technical removal specialist. Climbing.

Fallers have a super dangerous job, but rarely have to deal with humans. Utility guys can have that crap. Electricity scares me. They do have to interact with people occasionally, and there’s at least a couple occasions a year where they are shot and killed by crazies stateside. (As if the job wasn’t dangerous enough)

Urban removals...the gloves are off. Some people are out of their minds. I can absorb a pile of nonsense, but at the end of the day, I’m a ginger....

Been in literally hundreds of animated verbal confrontations and several physical ones. (Pro tip, if you get a professional industrial athlete mad enough to give up the 60-70’ he had to climb so YOU can get in his face, it’s NEVER going to end well for you).

It was fun.

OP, dude just got handed a sheet to head out on at the start of his shift. You may not have heard the initial door knock. Probably had a scraggly beard full of sap that honestly renders a mask useless anyway. I get how he freaked you out a bit, but at the end of the day the guy is going to be running a saw in very close proximity to powerful energized lines, risking his life for your benefit. Don’t ever forget that.

I hope it all works out for you. Stay safe man.

Tree


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[vinny]

Originally Posted by Ruffnuts

Anyone with a power line and a tree in your yard beware. They apparently can enter your yard whenever they please. Both me and the wife have been isolating because my health won't win a battle with covid Since March we have been house bound only leaving for groceries at Walmart which they load we bring them home and process. Them we have one stop to pick up my medications to control my problems. So today I hear heavy banging at the front door like maybe a emergency or police trying to get your attention scared the hell out the wife. Look o the camera here is a guy in my backyard he forced the gate open to get in. No mask no gloves no protection dogs were in the house wife let's the dogs guess the first place they go sniffing. It was fortis arborist sub contractor this is bull**** now we wait to see if we get sick. Cops can't charged them cause fortis is exempt. Talked to someone at fortis Brady irrongant big boss so is you see a fortis truck or there tree division watch out. Call3d global they may look into it. So your private yard is yours and fortis. This is my opinion but facts are there. There big boss response was what if a fire started because of the tre. 2 months ago the transformer blew up up the pole and was burning to fire department spray water and blew that shir all o order the neighbors garden. They reattached a new transformer to a ratting old pole that just got heated up. This is my opinion. Asked them what they would do to clean up his path at door and backyard. There going to send a guy out with a bottle of spray nine. My opinion this bs. There is a pandemic morons this is my only safeplace thanks for reading old guy with concerns

Sorry, I'm just trying to make sense of this. You said he banged on the front door, then said you looked at the camera and there is a guy in the backyard with no mask or gloves on. Are you upset that they were doing the work without a mask on, or was he at the door without a mask on. Just confused. If they are distanced there would be no need to work with a mask on. At the front door, maybe.

[marky_mark]

Just a heads up too
The gas company and the phone company can access that easement whenever needed also

[204ruger]

Originally Posted by Ruffnuts

Anyone with a power line and a tree in your yard beware. They apparently can enter your yard whenever they please. Both me and the wife have been isolating because my health won't win a battle with covid Since March we have been house bound only leaving for groceries at Walmart which they load we bring them home and process. Them we have one stop to pick up my medications to control my problems. So today I hear heavy banging at the front door like maybe a emergency or police trying to get your attention scared the hell out the wife. Look o the camera here is a guy in my backyard he forced the gate open to get in. No mask no gloves no protection dogs were in the house wife let's the dogs guess the first place they go sniffing. It was fortis arborist sub contractor this is bull**** now we wait to see if we get sick. Cops can't charged them cause fortis is exempt. Talked to someone at fortis Brady irrongant big boss so is you see a fortis truck or there tree division watch out. Call3d global they may look into it. So your private yard is yours and fortis. This is my opinion but facts are there. There big boss response was what if a fire started because of the tre. 2 months ago the transformer blew up up the pole and was burning to fire department spray water and blew that shir all o order the neighbors garden. They reattached a new transformer to a ratting old pole that just got heated up. This is my opinion. Asked them what they would do to clean up his path at door and backyard. There going to send a guy out with a bottle of spray nine. My opinion this bs. There is a pandemic morons this is my only safeplace thanks for reading old guy with concerns

The guy at your door without a mask on, sure he should have been wearing a mask. But the fear of getting sick from your dogs going and sniffing the arborist, I would say is on you for letting your dogs out of the house. As far as the arborist is concerned no one is in his work space so why wear personal protection.

[Au revoir, Gopher]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Just a heads up too
The gas company and the phone company can access that easement whenever needed also

It is amazing what having a bee hive sitting beside the easement does.

My biggest complaint with the utility companies (and the people they sub to do the work), is that they will make arrangements to come and do work and then never show up. I have had it happen 3 times in the 20 some years we have been in this house. We put a garden shed over the easement, on a platform so it can be moved if need be. Twice I have emptied the shed and moved it to the middle of the yard so that Telus or Shaw could do work. They never showed up.

A few years ago, a contractor working for Shaw shows up, says they can work around the shed, but didn't like the bee hive. Asked me to move it. I said I could move the hive to a temporary location, but they had better show up and do the work because I wouldn't move it a second time. I moved the hive, they didn't show up...

ARG

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by amosfella

Yes, you can kill caragana. You just have to want it to live where you put it. Next thing you know, it's dead.

Goats do a first class job.

Grizz