Go Back   Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum > Main Category > Fishing Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #241  
Old 11-18-2018, 10:01 PM
wbaj wbaj is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 215
Default New ideas cooking

Glad to see this thread up again.
I'm cooking up some new ones as well, also had some good success with some of my creations last year.
Will post some pictures and hopefully some success stories this season.
Tight lines everyone, and make sure that ice is safe before getting too excited.

Cheers
Reply With Quote
  #242  
Old 11-19-2018, 12:45 PM
raw outdoors raw outdoors is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: calgary
Posts: 579
Default

I have been tying up a few of these from the above pictures from whatever materials I have, until I make a trip to Michaels. If the more expearanced white fish hunters could post what they would call maybe there top 5 or 10 best patterns and times in the season they work. I hear the yellow works pretty good in southern Alberta early on. So I tied up a few yellow variation. Man some of your guys have 100s of them in your boxes.
Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #243  
Old 11-19-2018, 12:50 PM
SNAPFisher SNAPFisher is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3,116
Default

Yep, this is one of the best all time AO threads, thanks to Zip. I picked up some more split rings and a few WWs yesterday. I'm planning on tying a few rigs this weekend to get ready for the upcoming season.
Reply With Quote
  #244  
Old 11-19-2018, 12:56 PM
FlyTheory's Avatar
FlyTheory FlyTheory is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 1,167
Default

This thread helped me get on my first Sylvan whites last year, this thread rocks. thanks Zip!

ps. the wire worms I tied were gold with a copper thorax
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #245  
Old 11-24-2018, 06:38 PM
skawtty skawtty is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Sundre, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 91
Default Sticky This Please.

Can we get this post Stickied? This post has helped many people including myself.
Reply With Quote
  #246  
Old 11-24-2018, 07:42 PM
SNAPFisher SNAPFisher is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3,116
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by skawtty View Post
Can we get this post Stickied? This post has helped many people including myself.
I 2nd that. Admins?
Reply With Quote
  #247  
Old 11-24-2018, 09:15 PM
skawtty skawtty is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Sundre, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 91
Default

After reading this last week at work I thought I would head down to Airdrie and grab some stuff to start making w/w. Didn't find everything I wanted but got started. I couldn't find all 20 Ga wire had to settle for 26 as well. Only found 1 bead style and think they are too small but I will get more when I have more time.
Thanks all so far for the great info on this site as well. Looking forward to gull/sylvan whitefish this year.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #248  
Old 11-24-2018, 09:46 PM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default

Skawtty ... welcome & tks for sharing, you've got some nice combo patterns in brass/red, I'm sure they'll produce this season.

Cheers

David
__________________
Z-z

Reply With Quote
  #249  
Old 11-24-2018, 09:55 PM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default

Nice to read the positive feedback & continue to see members contributing & sharing information to help others on this thread/topic .

We’re about to start the 2018 hard water season and I’m sure there will be a number of new creative W/W patterns posted herein that will inspire others to either make or take up the hobby.

Tonight, I grabbed my 3 ice fishin rods from the garage, for those members that are wondering what works these are the patterns I ended my season with in late December before we departed to SoCal.

For those who follow my posts Barbie produced on the 2nd or 3rd day out so don’t overlook using a “red” color combo on one of your rods.

Tomorrow in the spirit of the Grey Cup, I may have to make a few W/W’s that match the winning teams colors. Should be easy I believe they’re both the same.

More to follow.

D.








AKA ... Barbie




Try to find some Pink Mag's they sure can help on slow days.



Gull Lake Whites - Opening Day Dec 2016 - Red with Green Glow Bead


__________________
Z-z


Last edited by Zip-in-Z; 11-24-2018 at 10:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #250  
Old 11-25-2018, 08:35 PM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default Congrat's Calgary

While watchin the game made a few of my fav’s …. found some Cat 5 at Cdn Tire, they sell it by the meter got enough to make a few of the “Solid Brown” with different colored beads, recommend you give these some consideration.





Hot W/W Pattern.





A new Z-z creation, for the YYC G-Cup Champs just like their “Red & Black” jerseys …. with a twist !




Guaranteed to be a Hot Combo this season!



Congrat's Calgary .... good game!


__________________
Z-z

Reply With Quote
  #251  
Old 12-04-2018, 10:02 AM
joyprince joyprince is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1
Default

what's the material on the right bottom? looks like 'tin foil'?

Quote:
Originally Posted by wbaj View Post
Thanks for the compliment NSR, I use a paint marker pen from Michael's craft store. Pens cost about 6 bucks but last many years.
Here is about all I used.


I have never sold any hook I've made, just enjoy playing with different ideas and catching fish on home-made hooks.
None of these have caught any fish yet.... but they also have never been in the water so you just never know!
Reply With Quote
  #252  
Old 12-05-2018, 10:56 AM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default

Does anyone have a source for thinner diameter solid "Yellow" wire ?

I ran out of the stuff I found years ago in EDM & the 100/pair wire I have isn't all that great to work with. The "Orange" is from the Cat 5 that I got at Cdn Tire, hoping to find some Yellow with a similar diameter. Nothing around here or R/D .... any suggestions ?

Joyprince ... the tin foil material you identified in wbaj's post is most likely "Lead" tape, I use it to swing weight my golf (irons) clubs. It's a novel idea to add weight to a W/W. Perhaps wbaj can share some further info.

Tks

D.


__________________
Z-z

Reply With Quote
  #253  
Old 12-06-2018, 07:49 PM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default

What’s more colorful the Mrs. collection of lost/found golf ball or my W/W’s ????




Came up with a few different patterns that may or may not work, I’m running out of ideas and colors, tried to make a few combo’s with a “Twist”.

Orange & Brown – used Cat 5 wire I got at Cdn Tire.









Diamond honing steel ideal for sharp hooks.



Brown & Yellow & Twist



Yellow & Red & Twist – Don’t like the heavier Yellow wire, will keep lookin for some thinner dia.




I tie 2 W/W’s on each rod, use 6 or 8 lb Floro leader material approx. 5 ft long & tie it to a mini barrel swivel to 10 lb braded line. I tie the top hook first approx. 12-14” from bottom, start the line through the hooks “Eye” facing up not down, then tie your knot, I use the double Trilene knot.




Tip – To get your W/W to sit Horizontal with the hook up after you tie the knot ….. loop the line back through the eye from the top going down through the eye and you will always have it sitting perfectly Horizontal .... see.




I tie the bottom W/W next, approx. 10 – 12” below the top hook and use a toothpick to get a nice small tight loop & tie a double Trilene knot.










Dec 11th “Line Up” … 1st , 2nd & 3rd String, going to give the Stampeders G-Cup champs a try & a couple of my most productive patterns will back them up. For those wondering, I got the "Green" glow beads from the Fishin Hole, Mr White sure likes them.






I ran out of high end hooks & using Mustard S82-3906B in 3XH/2XL Size "8" which is used as a Nymph hook.

Hope some of the info/pics are helpful.

Cheers

David




.
__________________
Z-z


Last edited by Zip-in-Z; 12-06-2018 at 08:05 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #254  
Old 12-09-2018, 04:30 PM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default

I was looking for some thinner dia. solid "Yellow" wire for some time, the stuff I had isn't great & no one here suggested a source.

Today I needed to stop at Princess Auto R/D and to my surprise I found some in the Surplus Products area in the back of the store, came in 3 colors and was <$5.00. It's the same dia. as Cat 5 and has a wire core so it wraps nicely/tightly on the hook shank.

Tied a Yellow/Orange & Yellow/Red W/W ... turned out great, will have to experiment with the Blue, it has possibilities.

For those who make your own W/W's, I recommend tying a few Candy Cane colors they have been very productive in both Sylvan & Gull.

Cheers

D.





Colorful ....

__________________
Z-z

Reply With Quote
  #255  
Old 12-09-2018, 07:46 PM
wbaj wbaj is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 215
Default Material identification

Quote:
Originally Posted by joyprince View Post
what's the material on the right bottom? looks like 'tin foil'?
The shinny material in the lower corner is lead sheeting.
I cut it into very narrow strips then wrap the hook with it usually in a tapered fashion from back to front. This adds weight to help sink the hook when fished. It should be noted that this is usually not required if you are wrapping the hook with wire as extra weight is not required.
I only do it his when making my "worm" out of rubber glove material. There is very little weight to this hook without a lead underbody.
BTW I caught several fish with this hook last season. A horizontal presentation fished slow at about the 6 or 7 foot level in 8 to 10 feet of water worked well.
Good luck!
Reply With Quote
  #256  
Old 12-13-2018, 05:59 PM
SNAPFisher SNAPFisher is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3,116
Default

Thanks sns2 and the admins. This post is where it should be
Reply With Quote
  #257  
Old 12-13-2018, 08:46 PM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SNAPFisher View Post
Thanks sns2 and the admins. This post is where it should be
Thank-you Admin as well, Mr. Snap & Mr. Skawtty for the "Sticky" suggestion/recommendation, I'm pleased to see/read the positive contribution from various members who share knowledge and help others in this thread.

I'm honored.


David
__________________
Z-z

Reply With Quote
  #258  
Old 12-13-2018, 09:01 PM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bassett View Post
Hey Zip, do you always fish 2 w/w on one rod? I’ve never been able to tie it properly and when I have only one lays vertical and the other does what it wants. I find it tends to produce nothing at all.

With that being said do you normally pick two closely matched patterns or completely different?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Bassett ... further to the response from Mr SNAPFisher, the info in post # 252 herein, should help including the pic's demonstrating the process on how to tie 2 w/w's in tandem.

The key to success is loop the line back through the hook eye and for the bottom W/W leave a sufficient tag end say 3/8 - 1/4" when you clip off the end piece. I adjust my bottom W/W & pull on the tag end to tighten up the knot to get it to sit horizontal. You need to be aware of your hook size and the amount of wire wrap, too much is too heavy & the extra weight will drag it down vertical.

Have a look and if you need further clarification send me a P/M.

Cheers

David
__________________
Z-z

Reply With Quote
  #259  
Old 12-13-2018, 09:20 PM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default

The following may be duplicated in the Sylvan Opening Day thread, however, these pic's belong here, too.

Try Dark Brown/Black W/W's when fishing in weedy bottom conditions, Whites & Walleye were aggressively chasing the Black pattern.









When fishing over rock/sand rubble try a Red pattern







Try Yellow/Orange Candy cane in sandy bottom or shallow conditions, was fortunate to catch 6 Whites on this one today.




My Three Sisters with a Green Glow Bead have been very productive.

__________________
Z-z

Reply With Quote
  #260  
Old 12-13-2018, 10:39 PM
bwackwabbit's Avatar
bwackwabbit bwackwabbit is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
Posts: 1,685
Default

Here are a few "test patterns" I tied up while watching that madness on TNF.

Not my best work because I couldn't take my eyes off that game for long...lol.

Test flight happens with the fine copper and white bead Saturday.

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
__________________
Cheers.

Last edited by bwackwabbit; 12-13-2018 at 10:48 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #261  
Old 12-14-2018, 12:51 PM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default

Scott ... I'm hoping to get to try one of these prototype's out on Gull next week. They look so yummy those big Whites in Gull would inhale them down to their gut, may have to pinch the barbs down.

D.
__________________
Z-z

Reply With Quote
  #262  
Old 12-14-2018, 07:37 PM
Bassett's Avatar
Bassett Bassett is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 2,777
Default



Here’s to hoping I can create something!!

Could only find glow beads on the pre-made “zak tackle” hooks.

Have an idea for the pink UV squids in a wire worm.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #263  
Old 12-15-2018, 05:14 PM
Bassett's Avatar
Bassett Bassett is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 2,777
Default



Tied up a few. Lots of stolen patterns lol.

The pink tail ww glows in the dark and is wrapped red. Hopefully it triggers something

Packing up my gear for tomorrow and realized my auger is 2 hrs north at the lake lot. Hand augering 6” holes I suppose..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #264  
Old 12-15-2018, 07:59 PM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default

Bassett .... nicely done, you have a number of very promising creations, hope they produce on your next adventure.

Cheers

D.
__________________
Z-z

Reply With Quote
  #265  
Old 12-15-2018, 08:03 PM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default

Dec 15th ... we were out on Sylvan (Norglenwold) today, these worked for me, was a bit surprised how the Whites chased the Bright Yellow in the late morning & early afternoon on a sunny day. They showed more interest in it than the Candy Cane Y/O.

D.


__________________
Z-z

Reply With Quote
  #266  
Old 12-15-2018, 08:08 PM
Zip-in-Z's Avatar
Zip-in-Z Zip-in-Z is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sylvan Lake/South Calif.
Posts: 1,875
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bwackwabbit View Post
Here are a few "test patterns" I tied up while watching that madness on TNF.

Not my best work because I couldn't take my eyes off that game for long...lol.

Test flight happens with the fine copper and white bead Saturday.

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

My fishin Buddy gave me a handful of his prototypes to try first thing in the AM, by early afternoon, he took most of them back and that's when things started to get competitive. More to follow on this story .... it's got to do with a dumb song about M-Rats & Love!

D.
__________________
Z-z

Reply With Quote
  #267  
Old 12-15-2018, 09:06 PM
bwackwabbit's Avatar
bwackwabbit bwackwabbit is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
Posts: 1,685
Default

Turns out the fine copper with white bead are "hot" for catching Muskrat!

Had some success w/whites on the black/red combo.

Cheers,

Scott.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bwackwabbit View Post
Here are a few "test patterns" I tied up while watching that madness on TNF.

Not my best work because I couldn't take my eyes off that game for long...lol.

Test flight happens with the fine copper and white bead Saturday.

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
__________________
Cheers.
Reply With Quote
  #268  
Old 12-15-2018, 10:07 PM
skawtty skawtty is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Sundre, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 91
Default

Haha oh boy. Lol. I hadn't got the video of our little friend up. Did he taste good?
Quote:
Originally Posted by bwackwabbit View Post
Turns out the fine copper with white bead are "hot" for catching Muskrat!

Had some success w/whites on the black/red combo.

Cheers,

Scott.

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #269  
Old 12-16-2018, 09:23 AM
bwackwabbit's Avatar
bwackwabbit bwackwabbit is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
Posts: 1,685
Default

Like chicken...lol.

Cheers,

Scott.
__________________
Cheers.
Reply With Quote
  #270  
Old 12-16-2018, 03:51 PM
bwackwabbit's Avatar
bwackwabbit bwackwabbit is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
Posts: 1,685
Default

I let Zip recover his good luck today as I stayed home cuz... well... Football!

Made a few new ones while watching (a few sloppy ones as it's hard to wrap tight when you are laughing out loud at the Cowboys!).


Cheers,

Scott.
__________________
Cheers.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.