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08-28-2018, 09:09 PM
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Tooth of the Arrow
Some guys were interested in knowing about a new(er) head on the market. It’s a cross between a Montec and a Slick Trick taking the best of both.
Short stout strong design, 4 blades, low profile, super sharp, heat treated, one piece solid machined.
Previously I was unable to get a fixed head to tune out past 40-50 yards. These ones I have been able to get to group at 100 yards! A buddies 70 year old mother took a moose with a short draw APA rattler at 40lbs last year...with a wicked blood trail. All things considered equal I think the fixed head is the way to go...provided you can get them to tune well. My bow spits these out around 296fps, a buddy is using them out of a turbo cam at over 310fps. If I had a flyer, it just needed to be nock tuned and was likely the arrow not the head.
They come in 85,100,125,175 weight option, they also come in a 4 blade 1 3/16” cut. I was originally concerned about a small cutting diameter but 1”x1” is actully fairly large and creates a nice hole. Hoping a local store will carry them soon!
100 yard group
LC
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08-28-2018, 10:06 PM
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I went to a fixed head this year as well. At 70 yards the G5 Strikers are grouping with field points. Never shot out to 100 yet. But I am still keeping 2 GR's 1 3/8 razortips in the quiver...... tough to change sometimes so I am going to ease myself into it.
The TOTA looks like a winner. I shot slick trick standard for a couple of seasons and this looks like a more stout version with the ability to re-sharpen. I watched a video on them and it is a small company out of Minnesota and each head is inspected and spin tested prior to packaging. Sounds like awesome quality control, lets hope they don't get too big and lose some of that small company attention to detail.
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08-29-2018, 07:30 AM
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Looks cool Lefty. How easy are they to sharpen? Can you sharpen 2 opposing blade surfaces at once with a flat stone? Then rotate 90* and repeat?
The last time I looked at fixed, I could sharpen using this method but it meant that each blade cutting angles were a little too big for my liking.
If they group like that, perhaps it's time that I begin looking at fixed again....
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08-29-2018, 07:41 AM
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They sell a sharpener for them, that holds the specific blade angle. It’s less than a pack of heads to purchase. They actually stay sharp a long time. I find out of the pack they are sharper than the Montecs and they hold an edge.
Oh and they carry a 100% satisfaction money back guarantee.
LC
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08-29-2018, 08:13 AM
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Good looking heads, a lot like the VPA heads.
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08-29-2018, 08:54 AM
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Where did you pick yours up Lefty? Online I’m assuming?
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08-29-2018, 12:24 PM
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Poor results on the shoulder blade test..
https://youtu.be/VcJ4_RIdNoI 6:00 min mark
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08-29-2018, 12:53 PM
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So are you going to be hunting with those this season, or are you sticking with the old standard?
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08-29-2018, 01:06 PM
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I never put too much stake into the broadhead shoulder blade tests personally....if the head makes it through it’s a bonus. If you hit them there its not where you are supposed to be anyhow.
I drifted a shoulder blade last year (16yrds, Sight was set wrong in the heat of the moment)...and it didn’t punch through. Almost the same spot as in the video, if it gets through it’s doing damage, if the head bends but it penetrates...it’s doing damage. A shoulder blade has varying locations that will possibly punch through or stop dead. They punch through a steel drum well...lots of others bend or break.
Just my thoughts. It’s more important they tune well so you can hit where you are supposed to.
LC
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08-29-2018, 01:56 PM
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I realized they tested the XL which is 1 3/16” cut, those blades are bigger and as a result thinner than the standard 1” I have tested. Also the shot placement was all over the map...a good comparison would have all heads hitting the same area of the shoulder blade. The bone density in a shoulder blade varies greatly depending on location.
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11-19-2018, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
I never put too much stake into the broadhead shoulder blade tests personally....if the head makes it through it’s a bonus. If you hit them there its not where you are supposed to be anyhow.
I drifted a shoulder blade last year (16yrds, Sight was set wrong in the heat of the moment)...and it didn’t punch through. Almost the same spot as in the video, if it gets through it’s doing damage, if the head bends but it penetrates...it’s doing damage. A shoulder blade has varying locations that will possibly punch through or stop dead. They punch through a steel drum well...lots of others bend or break.
Just my thoughts. It’s more important they tune well so you can hit where you are supposed to.
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Exactly...had one bounce off a moose...not cool....place it where it is supposed to go.
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11-22-2018, 08:46 PM
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I really like the looks of these broad heads . I currently shoot slick tricks with no complaints,but the one piece design of these has me strongly considering them.
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11-20-2018, 07:51 PM
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They appear to kill deer, what they are suppose to do but I don't see anything much there that is an improvement over the other 20 popular heads out there and the 1" cut would be a deal breaker for me.
Something new to try I guess maybe the larger cut ones, but I definitely wouldn't be using a broadhead with only a 1" cut, there are just so many options out there that are better.
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11-20-2018, 07:54 PM
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Dad shot an elk with one...it died within sight, maybe 35-40 yards away max. 4 blades 1”x1” makes a pretty nice hole, similar to a Slick Trick but a much more stout and solid design.
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11-20-2018, 08:58 PM
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I shot a 5x5 bull elk with the 1" model. The bull died within 25 yards, and it was down in 10 or 15 seconds. No visible damage to the broadhead itself
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11-20-2018, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
I killed my antelope and a mule deer so far, they work well...penetrate well! Both pass throughs at distances 40+
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Originally Posted by normanrd
I shot a 5x5 bull elk with the 1" model. The bull died within 25 yards, and it was down in 10 or 15 seconds. No visible damage to the broadhead itself
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They obviously get the job done, but I believe you are both good/excellent shots and would probably have made these kills with pretty much any broadhead. I guess I am just wondering are they better than what you used before and are they better enough that you will you stay with them.
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08-29-2018, 03:51 PM
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It's still a good measure of durability on a stand alone basis. To me broadheads are disposable, and this just shows you likely wont be resharpening them after hitting an animal.
What did a pack cost you?
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08-29-2018, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasc43
It's still a good measure of durability on a stand alone basis. To me broadheads are disposable, and this just shows you likely wont be resharpening them after hitting an animal.
What did a pack cost you?
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A buddy used a single head on 3 animals in a single season, but he made boiler room shots (not into big bone), don’t even know if he had to sharpen it. A single shot in a test isn’t always the best info...but if I bent a blade or a shaft, I agree...get a new one. I believe they are on par with other heads, about $55 CAD per pack of three incl the tightening tool.
I really hope to have some first hand experience to share soon!
LC
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08-29-2018, 08:24 PM
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I have 3 packs of the 1" 125gr. Heads that I will be using this year. Hopefully I can put a shot where it counts into a deer or two.
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08-30-2018, 06:52 AM
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I’ve changed broadheads 3 times now, started with fixed as that’s my preference but couldn’t ever get them tuned confidently. Switched to mechanical and have had better luck, and the massive blood trail that the Wack Em 2 blade just left on a double lung shot on a doe last Sunday was pretty encouraging. One blade was bent a bit and is now another practice head. I’m a frugal guy, I can’t hide that, so get 4 heads for the price of 3 is a win in my books.
BUT I wouldn’t hesitate to try these Tooth Of The Arrow, post some results for us Lefty and maybe I’ll buy a pack or two.
They fly like your field points? Or they just tuned well?
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08-30-2018, 08:55 AM
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I can tune my bow for them to match field points but it throws off my bare shaft tune. So I keep the bare shaft tune and adjust sights for broad heads
LC
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https://youtu.be/VcJ4_RIdNoI
Here's the link
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08-30-2021, 06:53 PM
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Just curious, where are you guys buying these broadheads in Canada?
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08-30-2021, 10:58 PM
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Just curious, where are you guys buying these broadheads in Canada?
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Wolverine in Red Deer carries them, Lawrence at Accurate carries them, Wildside in Lloydminster carries them. Those are the ones I know for sure.
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