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08-12-2018, 04:39 PM
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223 Rem what powder works
So I’ve tried AE 55gr Fmj, Hornady steel match 55gr HPBT,and Nosler custom 60 gr in the WK180C. Best group so far is 1-1/4”. I’m planning on doing up a load with 50gr vmax for whacking coyotes. I’d really like to get this thing shooting less than moa. Just wondering what powder. Gives a good combination of accuracy and velocity in the -223.
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08-12-2018, 04:43 PM
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Depending on the rifle, I have had great results with CFE-223, IMR4064, and N-133. And CFE-223 does a good job of preventing copper fouling.
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08-12-2018, 04:44 PM
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any powder you want as long as it say's Benchmark on the container!!!
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08-12-2018, 04:55 PM
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Great success with H335 and Win 748. Both meter exceptionally well. Was able to get higher velocities and still maintain accuracy with H335.
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08-12-2018, 04:57 PM
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I’ve got good results with CFE223 and Varget.
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08-12-2018, 05:20 PM
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I have good luck with Varget & 55 vmax bullets.
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08-12-2018, 05:27 PM
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The WK 180C is a 1-8 twist so I could use heavier bullets but have always had good luck with the 50-55gr vmax. I’ve put in a Geissele G2S trigger but haven’t tried shooting it since. It’s a huge improvement over the stock trigger. If I can get this thing shooting 3/4” groups coyotes aren’t going to like it.
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08-12-2018, 05:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benelli1
Great success with H335 and Win 748. Both meter exceptionally well. Was able to get higher velocities and still maintain accuracy with H335.
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Yup
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08-12-2018, 06:12 PM
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I am getting excellent results with 27.0 GR of CFE 223 and 55 GR Nosler varmint ballistic tips. 3140 fps.
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08-12-2018, 07:00 PM
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H322 behind 40-50gr Vmax.
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08-13-2018, 08:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benelli1
Great success with H335 and Win 748. Both meter exceptionally well. Was able to get higher velocities and still maintain accuracy with H335.
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I second the Win 748. Meters really well, low flash point and I'm averaging 3000fps with a 55gr bt
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08-13-2018, 09:38 AM
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From my experience (and I've read, from lots of others) 25gr. of Varget behind a 55gr. bullet should be a decent shooter in any .223. Refine +/- on the charge. My .223 bolt gun shoots 55gr. V-Max/25.gr Varget AND 53gr. V-Max 25.7gr. Varget almost equally well. (under 1/2 MOA) I'm the variable.
Having said that, semi-autos are different animals, and subtle changes in powder/bullet weights are more likely to be realized using a bolt gun. If a gun like a WK180C is shooting 1"-1-1/4", there is a good chance you've already hit the "sweet spot" in your load development. I'm not suggesting you throw in the towel, but I consider myself a half-sensible/mostly competent reloader and I spent a whole season trying to get a RA XCR-L shooting like my bolt guns do. 1-1/4" was about average, and if it opened-up from there..it was on the bigger side, not smaller. I maybe punched 2-3 groups (5 shot @ 100 yards) that were under 1".
Different gun? =yes, but after allot of reading and chatting with other guys trying to attempt the same thing, I was reminded (over and over again) that it's not what these guns (meaning, the RA XCR-L) were ever meant to do. =punching small groups.
On a positive note, I don't remember missing any groundhogs with it either. I could probably dig-up a photo or two if anyone is interested.
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08-13-2018, 12:37 PM
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I shoot a vmax 55gr Pill. Proppelled by RL15. Great results under 1/2 moa
My previous recipie with same pill was with benchmark.
Food for thought
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08-16-2018, 08:33 PM
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I've loaded a few hundred rounds so far with H335, and have had good luck with it.
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08-16-2018, 09:51 PM
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Varget, dip the case...tap it on the bench fill it to the top and squish a bullet in..(seriously don’t do that)
...but seriously a full compressed load of Varget shoot great in my .223
LC
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08-16-2018, 09:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
Varget, dip the case...tap it on the bench fill it to the top and squish a bullet in..(seriously don’t do that)
...but seriously a full compressed load of Varget shoot great in my .223
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Fir many years a boatload of Varget underneath a 69 grain Seirra was the favourite of the .223 Palma match crowd and many still swear by it - I know I have never had an issue with it and run my .223's out to 1K regularly
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08-17-2018, 06:05 PM
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Imr 8208 xbr
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08-17-2018, 06:45 PM
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I've got a couple loads that I like. Rifle is a Savage Model 12. I've had decent results with both H335 and RL7 for 40gr bullets but I figured I have the twist so I may as well go heavier.
60gr Hornady SP Varmint with Ramshot Tac
62gr Varmageddon HPFB with Ramshot Tac
68gr Hornday Match HPBT with RL15 - loaded super long. Avg velocity is 2997 fps
The 62gr Varmageddons fragment reliably and spectacularly on gophers, you would not get a pass through on a yote. Accuracy for this load is ridiculously good for a relatively inexpensive rifle.
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