Ali#1, you were right about Arizona. - Page 9

Redfrog · #**241** 03-01-2014, 01:32 PM

ali#1 · #**242** 03-01-2014, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by connexion123

Go nuts. Quote them verbatim. But much to your style of argument, who says, you? What makes you right? You forgot your child sex slave owning mass execution Christian killing athiest people before you.

Same argument as you use.

Your argument is invalid as it hold no water.

Dismissing someone's argument doesn't work.

I say your view is silly and I have that right to say so. And I you believe you should have more say than me because you believe in fairy tails then your wrong.

connexion123 · #**243** 03-01-2014, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

Are churches taxed ?

They should be if they get involved in politics.

Individual Christians are so they DO get a say. Keeping my religious beliefs out of politics means you keep your lack thereof out as well.

Fair is fair

connexion123 · #**244** 03-01-2014, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

Dismissing someone's argument doesn't work.

I say your view is silly and I have that right to say so. And I you believe you should have more say than me because you believe in fairy tails then your wrong.

Not more. The same amount.

connexion123 · #**245** 03-01-2014, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

Dismissing someone's argument doesn't work.

I say your view is silly and I have that right to say so. And I you believe you should have more say than me because you believe in fairy tails then your wrong.

I also get to say your view is silly.

connexion123 · #**246** 03-01-2014, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

Votes do count this is a secular country. I didn't vote for Jesus or Allah or Buddha and I don't want them involved in my government. You want a return to pre Victorian Britain and I won't Stand for it. Keep your church out of my government.

God can't be voted on. Either He is, or is not.

connexion123 · #**247** 03-01-2014, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Redfrog

Pretty much.

ali#1 · #**248** 03-01-2014, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by connexion123

I merely used the EXACT SAME ARGUMENT YOU USED. What mkes you right when you use it and me wrong when I use it.

The fact that you think your argument is correct because it's on the bible. It not a history book it's not a science book and it doesn't hold any more water than anything else, you believe you can write a few biblical passages and be considered right and have no counter argument. Doesn't work that way. I can break out all kind of biblical verses that are immoral like child sacrifice.

ali#1 · #**249** 03-01-2014, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by connexion123

God can't be voted on. Either He is, or is not.

I say he's not and I don't care what you think.

connexion123 · #**250** 03-01-2014, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

I say he's not and I don't care what you think.

And much the same I don't impress my values on you and if you don't believe, fine and dandy. But I'll fight for your right to disbelieve. Will you fight for my right to believe?

ali#1 · #**251** 03-01-2014, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by connexion123

I also get to say your view is silly.

Sure you can think whatever you want but you can't overrule me because of faith.

I mean after all Jesus did say that you should expect to be mocked for your beliefs, because from the outside they would seem rediculous.

connexion123 · #**252** 03-01-2014, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

The fact that you think your argument is correct because it's on the bible. It not a history book it's not a science book and it doesn't hold any more water than anything else, you believe you can write a few biblical passages and be considered right and have no counter argument. Doesn't work that way. I can break out all kind of biblical verses that are immoral like child sacrifice.

I think it is correct, same as you think yours is. Break out the verses man.

The Bible is VERY historically correct.

ali#1 · #**253** 03-01-2014, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by connexion123

And much the same I don't impress my values on you and if you don't believe, fine and dandy. But I'll fight for your right to disbelieve. Will you fight for my right to believe?

Sure I will but what I won't fight for is for you to have more of a say than me in a secular government, or have your morals thrust upon me or my children because of what you believe. A secular government is why we are successful and free, when the church ran countries people were treated worse and had less freedoms, I don't want a return to that.

ali#1 · #**254** 03-01-2014, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by connexion123

I think it is correct, same as you think yours is. Break out the verses man.

The Bible is VERY historically correct.

Prove it's correct, archeologists hae been looking in Israel for centuries and have found exactly nothing in that time.

30Cal · #**255** 03-01-2014, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by connexion123

I think it is correct, same as you think yours is. Break out the verses man.

The Bible is VERY historically correct.

Amen. 36 Books in the Old, 27 in the New, all seamlessly tied together to portray one central figure who is Christ.

ali#1 · #**256** 03-01-2014, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 30Cal

Amen

So you believe the world is 6000 years old ?.

30Cal · #**257** 03-01-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

So you believe the world is 6000 years old ?.

I can't say the exact age, but there is significant evidence if you do the search to show it is a young not old earth as some would like you to believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PY0zzh8G3c

connexion123 · #**258** 03-01-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

Sure I will but what I won't fight for is for you to have more of a say than me in a secular government, or have your morals thrust upon me or my children because of what you believe. A secular government is why we are successful and free, when the church ran countries people were treated worse and had less freedoms, I don't want a return to that.

Correction. When the CATHOLIC CHURCH ran things...

We're successful because of principles founded in scripture.

connexion123 · #**259** 03-01-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

So you believe the world is 6000 years old ?.

I think it is 6-10 thousand years old yes.

connexion123 · #**260** 03-01-2014, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

Sure I will but what I won't fight for is for you to have more of a say than me in a secular government, or have your morals thrust upon me or my children because of what you believe. A secular government is why we are successful and free, when the church ran countries people were treated worse and had less freedoms, I don't want a return to that.

See I could say the same. I don't want your lack of morals thrust upon me and my children.

ali#1 · #**261** 03-01-2014, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by connexion123

I think it is 6-10 thousand years old yes.

There is no help for you. But your entitled to your opinion just keep it out of my children's schools so they can learn important things.

ali#1 · #**262** 03-01-2014, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by connexion123

See I could say the same. I don't want your lack of morals thrust upon me and my children.

What lack of morals ? Are you judging me because I don't believe ? I know many many believers who don't have the morals I have, don't assume because you believe in an immoral child sacrifice pro slavery book makes you more moral than me.

Winch101 · #**263** 03-01-2014, 02:35 PM

If you were smart ,which you are not , there s no use talking to an atheist
About heat or fire or any of that gobblygook .
No archeologist or religious scholar has ever proved that any events in the
Bible ever took place . Your mistake is thinking that the backward members
Of an outdoor board would be prey and impressed with a windbag like you .

I forgot more about organized religion than you will ever know....
Weak minded is the strong point of churchgoers .

Atheist scholar for you ....find your rational mind and use it .

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8-J5oBLi_FY

connexion123 · #**264** 03-01-2014, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

What lack of morals ? Are you judging me because I don't believe ? I know many many believers who don't have the morals I have, don't assume because you believe in an immoral child sacrifice pro slavery book makes you more moral than me.

I can assume by your OP you don't have the same. I can tell by the discussion we're having.

30Cal · #**265** 03-01-2014, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Winch101

If you were smart ,which you are not , there s no use talking to an atheist
About heat or fire or any of that gobblygook .
No archeologist or religious scholar has ever proved that any events in the
Bible ever took place . Your mistake is thinking that the backward members
Of an outdoor board would be prey and impressed with a windbag like you .

I forgot more about organized religion than you will ever know....
Weak minded is the strong point of churchgoers .

Atheist scholar for you ....find your rational mind and use it .

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8-J5oBLi_FY

Already knew you were an angry atheist, but thanks for confirming again.

And I suggest you do some more research if you believe that there is no archeologist that proved events in the Bible ever took place.

http://www.alwaysbeready.com/archaeo...-for-the-bible

http://realtruth.org/articles/438-avtb.html

And so much more if you would study.

More specifically, I'm sorry that your not well, in that you have to resort to name calling; however, I will be praying that you get better.

30Cal · #**266** 03-01-2014, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Winch101

If you were smart ,which you are not , there s no use talking to an atheist

We will disagree here, because there are many past atheist who saw the error of their way and accepted Christ to become great ministers. Who knows, maybe someday you'll be one of them...you just don't know it right yet.

http://www.bethinking.org/is-christi...rsonal-journey

http://www.doesgodexist.org/AboutClayton/PastLife.html

Winch101 · #**267** 03-01-2014, 03:15 PM

Upon reviewing this thread , it's apparent that the defenders of the faith
Are not from the true church .....as everyone knows ,whether they admit it or not .The Church of Rome and it's followers are the chosen people of the
Christian God . So really you are not qualified to debate this subject . As Protestants or worse yet Johnny come lately bornagainers you really are out of your depth here. These are well documented facts . Any church started in the last 100 years is more of a pyramid scheme ,your redemption is relative to
Your bank account ...
In fact if any AO members are Catholic , it would a blasphemy to read this
Thread .As most members already think it is an abomination.

It's not name calling if the labels are true.

Hey it's the internet ,proof of nothing ...

connexion123 · #**268** 03-01-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ali#1

There is no help for you. But your entitled to your opinion just keep it out of my children's schools so they can learn important things.

Like? How to have anal sex? How we are monkeys? How the government is good? How to hate others?

ali#1 · #**269** 03-01-2014, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Winch101

Upon reviewing this thread , it's apparent that the defenders of the faith
Are not from the true church .....as everyone knows ,whether they admit it or not .The Church of Rome and it's followers are the chosen people of the
Christian God . So really you are not qualified to debate this subject . As Protestants or worse yet Johnny come lately bornagainers you really are out of your depth here. These are well documented facts . Any church started in the last 100 years is more of a pyramid scheme ,your redemption is relative to
Your bank account ...
In fact if any AO members are Catholic , it would a blasphemy to read this
Thread .As most members already think it is an abomination.

It's not name calling if the labels are true.

Hey it's the internet ,proof of nothing ...

Lots of people don't need proof to believe.

Winch101 · #**270** 03-01-2014, 03:30 PM

They don't call it blind faith for nothing .....it derives from a poor mental
And emotional structure . More people have committed suicide over religion
Than any other reason....or fallen into the depths of addictions and
Depravity. Stems from low self esteem , a need to be managed and self doubt.
Totally clouds sound thinking ,good judgement and reality.
I think more people recant at the end than rejoice...

Yours ad infinitum

I remind the other side......children read this site