Number of Guide/Outfitter Tags Issued

[Talking moose]

Huntwat... Guess what? I too think the average Albertan is getting shafted. I'm just throwing out some of the positives.

[stringer]

Originally Posted by Brock1

because of your ignorance, your comments are no longer valid. I do thank you for your participation and lack of any compassion for your fellow Albertans.

Your very welcome

[huntwat]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

So we should have a lot more than one nonresident hunter?

LOL, no we should have just enough to fill the harvest need without disrupting residents opportunity. And fairly distribute tags.
And I will repeat, NO non-res should have more opportunity for a species than a resident.

[stringer]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Huntwat... Guess what? I too think the average Albertan is getting shafted. I'm just throwing out some of the positives.

There's a positive when one is getting shafted.
That's a joke right ?

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by stringer

There's a positive when one is getting shafted.
That's a joke right ?

For the last time. Does Alberta make more money from someone dropping 15k to shoot a mulie buck or someone who drops a hundred bucks to take that same buck? As stated, I would love the opportunity.

[huntwat]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

For the last time. Does Alberta make more money from someone dropping 15k to shoot a mulie buck or someone who drops a hundred bucks to take that same buck? As stated, I would love the opportunity.

15k is quite a stretch don't you think?
And $100 is quite a stretch the other way.
But makes for a good story.

[stringer]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

For the last time. Does Alberta make more money from someone dropping 15k to shoot a mulie buck or someone who drops a hundred bucks to take that same buck? As stated, I would love the opportunity.

If I include all my costs for example
Truck
Trailer
Quads
Travel trailer
Taxes
Etc. etc. etc.

No I definitely spend more

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by huntwat

15k is quite a stretch don't you think?
And $100 is quite a stretch the other way.
But make for a good story.

Ok... 10,000 and 1000. Better?

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by stringer

If I include all my costs for example
Truck
Trailer
Quads
Travel trailer
Etc. etc. etc.

No

You forgot other things for the hunt.
Toothepaste
Ear drops
Depends
Second set of gloves.......
You would purchase a new truck to go get your mulie buck?

[huntwat]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Ok... 10,000 and 1000. Better?

Yes, much better. makes for easier math.
But I just picked a random outfitter. His price list says $6500 for a 6 day mule deer hunt. So add a night on each end for hotel stays and a night in the bar, a few meals and he's gone. So, $7500 is closer.

Now gas for scouting. Gas for hunting. Mechanic bills. Horse care year round. Hunting equipment that I buy in Alberta etc. would add up to much over $1000.
So there is not much difference in the input to the Alberta economy.
Mine goes directly to the Alberta economy. How much of the Outfitters goes to a Mexican holiday?

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

For the last time. Does Alberta make more money from someone dropping 15k to shoot a mulie buck or someone who drops a hundred bucks to take that same buck? As stated, I would love the opportunity.

If that Alberta resident lives in Alberta year round, and spends a good part of his wage in Alberta, then he probably contributes more than $15000 to the Alberta economy every year, be it while hunting trips or on his day to day living. And just how many non residents spend $15,000 to hunt mule deer for a weekr? I googled several Alberta mule deer hunts, and the average price ranged from $4500 to $6500 US or $6000 to $9000 CAN. The outfitters supply meals an accommodations, and hunt expenses, so I am not believing that the average non resident hunter is spending an additional $6000 to $9000 while he is in Alberta for a week. If his hunt is based out of a town or city, he may spend some move in bars or buying souvenirs, but $6000 to $9000 is quite a stretch. If a non resident hunter is in a wilderness camp, he has nowhere to spend his money while he is in camp.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

If that Alberta resident lives in Alberta year round, and spends a good part of his wage in Alberta, then he probably contributes more than $15000 to the Alberta economy. And just how many non residents spend $15,000 to hunt mule deer for a weekr? I googled several Alberta mule deer hunts, and the average price ranged from $4500 to $6500 US or $6000 to $9000 CAN. The outfitters supply meals an accommodations, and hunt expenses, so I am not believing that the average non resident hunter is spending an additional $6000 to $9000 while he is in Alberta for a week. If his hunt is based out of a town or city, he may spend some move in bars or buying souvenirs, but $6000 to $9000 is quite a stretch. If a non resident hunter is in a wilderness camp, he has nowhere to spend his money while he is in camp.

Yes he does provide more to the economy. Your right. But to take a single mule deer he doesn't.

[stringer]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

You forgot other things for the hunt.
Toothepaste
Ear drops
Depends
Second set of gloves.......
You would purchase a new truck to go get your mulie buck?

No but bought a tuck and trailers and quads and other equipment etc. etc etc. just to go hunting.
I'd say I contributed more to the economy than someone coming up here for a week to hunt.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by stringer

No but bought a tuck and trailers and quads and other equipment etc. etc etc. just to go hunting.
I'd say I contributed more to the economy than someone coming up here for a week to hunt.

Why would you buy all that just for hunting if you can't hunt?

[stringer]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Why would you buy all that just for hunting if you can't hunt?

Because I can.
Why can't I hunt ?

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Yes he does provide more to the economy. Your right. But to take a single mule deer he doesn't.

Who cares how much he spends to kill a single mule deer, he supports the Alberta economy year round. He pays the taxes that maintain our schools, and our health care system, and our roads and his taxes pay for wildlife management in Alberta. He supports our Alberta businesses year round, which keeps many families fed and housed all year. There are over 123,000 Alberta resident hunters, that combined contribute a great deal more to the Alberta economy than the non resident hunters ever will. As such, the Alberta residents should be given first priority to our wildlife resources.

[huntwat]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

the Alberta residents should be given first priority to our wildlife resources.

this

[Torkdiesel]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Why would you buy all that just for hunting if you can't hunt?

lmfao !!!

I said I was done but had to come back and say congrats. That's awesome !!!

[huntwat]

If I get a antlered mule tag in my chosen wmu every year, I will guarantee I will put 15000 into Alberta's economy every year.

[blgoodbrand1]

Originally Posted by huntwat

If I get a antlered mule tag in my chosen wmu every year, I will guarantee I will put 15000 into Alberta's economy every year.

Sure bud

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Who cares how much he spends to kill a single mule deer, he supports the Alberta economy year round. He pays the taxes that maintain our schools, and our health care system, and our roads and his taxes pay for wildlife management in Alberta. He supports our Alberta businesses year round, which keeps many families fed and housed all year. There are over 123,000 Alberta resident hunters, that combined contribute a great deal more to the Alberta economy than the non resident hunters ever will. As such, the Alberta residents should be given first priority to our wildlife resources.

Even if Joe resident doesn't get to shoot that mulie buck, he will still be paying into all those things you've mentioned. So in reality, all emotions aside, Alberta benifits more from the American. Don't get me wrong. I think the residents should have priority, but economically Alberta as a whole benifits more for allowing frank American to come drop 10k.

[Canukanuk]

Originally Posted by Torkdiesel

lmfao !!!

I said I was done but had to come back and say congrats. That's awesome !!!

Nice to see you're back, and entertained. So, being happy now are you ready to give residents full priority yet?

[Torkdiesel]

Originally Posted by Canukanuk

Nice to see you're back, and entertained. So, being happy now are you ready to give residents full priority yet?

No. But we sure can keep the 90% we already have

[Ronji]

More haggling than an outfitter in a Mexican market.
Frankly, this is beyond ridiculous!

[Brock1]

OK you ignorant greedy people let's play Jeapardy.

I am going to give you the answer to the question. you tell me the question

ready?

ok good


shippers
taxidermists
dishwashers
sandwich makers
cooks
cleaning ladies or men
maintenance guy
wranglers
gas stations
buy lo foods
and other grocery stores in Alberta
the bread guy
the propane guy
the water guy
guides
outfitters
hotels
bed and breakfasts
airlines
barstaff
bars
liquor stores
cabelas or other sporting good stores
raven wear lady
any place a guide spends his tip money and wages in alberta
and all of the families of staff of all of the above


now what is the Question?

lets see who is the smartest.

talking moose and tork you can't answer.

[Brock1]

Originally Posted by Torkdiesel

No. But we sure can keep the 90% we already have

Bahahahahaha

[Canukanuk]

Originally Posted by Torkdiesel

No. But we sure can keep the 90% we already have

Your are a generous and kind man, one to be admired by all.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Brock1

OK you ignorant greedy people let's play Jeapardy.

I am going to give you the answer to the question. you tell me the question

ready?

ok good


shippers
taxidermists
dishwashers
sandwich makers
cooks
cleaning ladies or men
maintenance guy
wranglers
gas stations
buy lo foods
and other grocery stores in Alberta
the bread guy
the propane guy
the water guy
guides
outfitters
hotels
bed and breakfasts
airlines
barstaff
bars
liquor stores
cabelas or other sporting good stores
raven wear lady
any place a guide spends his tip money and wages in alberta
and all of the families of staff of all of the above


now what is the Question?

lets see who is the smartest.

talking moose and tork you can't answer.

I see a large number of businesses that could survive without non resident hunters, but that couldn't survive without Alberta residents.

[Brock1]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

I see a large number of businesses that could survive without non resident hunters, but that couldn't survive without Alberta residents.

wrong answer no 800.00 for you

next

[Brock1]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

I see a large number of businesses that could survive without non resident hunters, but that couldn't survive without Alberta residents.

just went to the judges and sorry elk but you have been ejected form this game.
sorry