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12-20-2008, 06:01 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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280 Rem or 308 Win??
I may have the chance to buy either a 280 or 308. I am looking for and I do need a gun for deer sized game. I have a 338WM now that I use for moose and have done elk\mule deer combo hunts with. I also have a 223 for varmints so I need something to fill my needs in between. I'm in Ontario so it's mostly whitetails so it's a toss up between short and long range, but I do plan on doing a muley hunt and a caribou hunt someday which will then be long range.
I am a big believer in quality bullets and good shot placement and I do like the fact that the 280 is flatter shooting and the ballistic coefficiency is better on a 7mm bullet(280) than the 30cal(308). But the 308 being an inheritably accurate caliber, I don't load so there's more of a choice in good factory ammo I think for the 308.
What do ya think?? Thanks.
Kevin.
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12-20-2008, 06:22 PM
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Because you don't handload I'd look no farther than the .308 Win
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12-20-2008, 06:31 PM
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choice
You realy can't go wrong with either , ammo will be more readily available for the 308. Both are very capable cartridges, my prefference is the .280 ,but I load.
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12-20-2008, 07:06 PM
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Not a handloader, I'd go 308win.(within your original question)
But if the niche really needs filling why not a 270Win, or better yet a 25'06.
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12-20-2008, 09:20 PM
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2nd the 25-06!
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12-20-2008, 09:39 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Cypress County, AB
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25-06 Rem, 270 Win or 270 WSM
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12-20-2008, 09:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin R.
I may have the chance to buy either a 280 or 308. I am looking for and I do need a gun for deer sized game. I have a 338WM now that I use for moose and have done elk\mule deer combo hunts with. I also have a 223 for varmints so I need something to fill my needs in between. I'm in Ontario so it's mostly whitetails so it's a toss up between short and long range, but I do plan on doing a muley hunt and a caribou hunt someday which will then be long range.
I am a big believer in quality bullets and good shot placement and I do like the fact that the 280 is flatter shooting and the ballistic coefficiency is better on a 7mm bullet(280) than the 30cal(308). But the 308 being an inheritably accurate caliber, I don't load so there's more of a choice in good factory ammo I think for the 308.
What do ya think?? Thanks.
Kevin.
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Don't handload?
308.
Gonna get into handloading? 280 Remington
Personally I love the 308, but my REAL favorites are the 6.5 calibers!
Cat
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Last edited by catnthehat; 12-21-2008 at 06:36 AM.
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12-20-2008, 11:31 PM
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Gone Hunting
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Location: Rocky Mountain House
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What kind of rifle are you interested in?
What kind of deer hunting will you mainly be doing?
If you are mostly hunting in thick cover at short range, you may not want a long barreled bolt action.
If you like a lever action you will find a number of options in .308.
A semi auto or pump can be had in eather cartridge.
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12-21-2008, 12:55 PM
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Gone Hunting
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A cold, windy, wintery day here in the Rocky area. (Dec. 21st, the first day of winter, ya right!)
I have to go out and cut our Christmas tree in awhile but I was just sitting by the fireplace with a coffee and a good book. NOSLER Reloading Manual addition number 3.
In the section on .308, Edward Matunas, the editor of "GUNS magazine" says:
"If I could have but two rifles they would be a .308 Winchester and a .338 Winchester Magnum. That's as much praise as I can give to any cartridge."
On the .280 section Jim Carmichel says: "I have lost count of the game I've taken with the .280 Remington, but no animal that has been fairly hit ever got away."
So ther you have it, two experts think that each cartridge is a great one.
Which will not help you make up your mind at all!
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12-21-2008, 01:38 PM
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Let's throw another calibre on the table.
7MM-08
A bit faster and flatter trajectory than the 308. The 140 gr shelf loads are perfect for deer or even a larger animal. Very low recoil. Fits into a compact, short action rifle and works well from a short barrel for use in the Ontario woods. If you eventually take up reloading there are numerous bullet selections for the 7MM.
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12-23-2008, 06:10 AM
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Personally I use a 280 but I handload. For Ontario deer hunting any cartridge from 243 to 45-70 can be appropriate. Far more important is to pick the rifle you are comfortable with and can shoot well. Just about any caliber will kill a deer as long as you get that first bullet in the right spot.
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12-24-2008, 12:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raised by wolves
Let's throw another calibre on the table.
7MM-08
A bit faster and flatter trajectory than the 308. The 140 gr shelf loads are perfect for deer or even a larger animal. Very low recoil. Fits into a compact, short action rifle and works well from a short barrel for use in the Ontario woods. If you eventually take up reloading there are numerous bullet selections for the 7MM.
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a 7mm-08 would be the ideal choise if you would take up reloading. but if you don't take up reloading you should get a .308win. If you get a .308win you should get 150 grain soft point Cor Lokt bullets.
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