Walleye line.

[Squidlips]

Walleye

When using braided line, do you use fluorocarbon leader material or do you just use line as a leader? Also, do you use a blood knot or a different type to connect the two? Or do you you usually go for a swivel, considering line twist.

I was considering a very small swivel, but didn’t know if I’d then be able to have a long enough leader without the swivel being reel’d into the eyes on the rod. Maybe braid doesn’t twist as much and I don’t even need a swivel?


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[walleyechaser]

Which ever floats your boat really. Walleye are not nearly as line shy as people make them to be, especially river walleye. If from a boat usually a small swivel and 10lb fluorocarbon, even then I dont think it matters that much, guys who use their mainline still catch plenty hogs

[Squidlips]

Originally Posted by walleyechaser

Which ever floats your boat really. Walleye are not nearly as line shy as people make them to be, especially river walleye. If from a boat usually a small swivel and 10lb fluorocarbon, even then I dont think it matters that much, guys who use their mainline still catch plenty hogs

Kinda what I figured and glad to hear some confirmation, thanks. I was using my trout rod for walleye, but now that I have a new rod just for walleye I can finally switch to braid.


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[timsesink]

I would disagree pretty strongly with the above post! I've done experiments with me and another guy in the boat. One guy on straight braid and the other using a fluorocarbon leader. Depending on the day the fluorocarbon leader outfishes the other one by as much as three to one. It's incredibly simple, get 8 pound test fluorocarbon, tie directly to your braided line. Anywhere from 2-3ft is fine.

A murky river may be an entirely different story.

[walleyechaser]

Originally Posted by timsesink

I would disagree pretty strongly with the above post! I've done experiments with me and another guy in the boat. One guy on straight braid and the other using a fluorocarbon leader. Depending on the day the fluorocarbon leader outfishes the other one by as much as three to one. It's incredibly simple, get 8 pound test fluorocarbon, tie directly to your braided line. Anywhere from 2-3ft is fine.

A murky river may be an entirely different story.

Sure if its ultra clear. Hardly ever that clear down south anyway.

[Talking moose]

Since there’s almost always some pike around in walleye lakes go fluoro.

[HuyFishin]

When I am targeting walleye I always use a fluorocarbon line as my leader.

Not fluorocarbon leader material , i'm using it from a fluorocarbon filler spool.

[Rvsask]

I think it depends on the water body and the dynamics of the ecosystem itself. In some places it seems to be that walleye want to softly pick up things like slow fished leeches and crawlers and anything other than clear line will not get you a bite. Then there are other places where they'll smack spoons cast for pike and be unafraid of taking wallops at great big crankbaits being burned over weedbeds. I personally prefer fishing the latter of the two examples.

[Squidlips]

Originally Posted by timsesink

I would disagree pretty strongly with the above post! I've done experiments with me and another guy in the boat. One guy on straight braid and the other using a fluorocarbon leader. Depending on the day the fluorocarbon leader outfishes the other one by as much as three to one. It's incredibly simple, get 8 pound test fluorocarbon, tie directly to your braided line. Anywhere from 2-3ft is fine.

A murky river may be an entirely different story.

Do you experience line twist with your braid? I swear by an in-line swivel when jigging, but have never used braid.


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[wildwoods]

Originally Posted by Squidlips

Do you experience line twist with your braid? I swear by an in-line swivel when jigging, but have never used braid.


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you will get some but an inline swivel is not nesessary

[Walleyedude]

Originally Posted by timsesink

I would disagree pretty strongly with the above post! I've done experiments with me and another guy in the boat. One guy on straight braid and the other using a fluorocarbon leader. Depending on the day the fluorocarbon leader outfishes the other one by as much as three to one. It's incredibly simple, get 8 pound test fluorocarbon, tie directly to your braided line. Anywhere from 2-3ft is fine.

A murky river may be an entirely different story.

This is my experience too. It does make a difference. The difference is huge in really finesse situations, and less pronounced in more aggressive presentations. Having said that, I can honestly say I've even seen an improvement in catch rates by using a 10-15 ft fluorocarbon leader when trolling crankbaits rather than braid right to the crank. It's not a big change, but it's there, especially when the bite is tough.

The other major benefit in my opinion to having a fluorocarbon leader is that re-tying your jig is a piece of cake. Simple palomar knot and bite off the tag end. If you're using straight braid, you're gonna need scissors or a knife and it's a little trickier to deal with. Grabbing your line is a lot more user friendly with fluoro too compared to braid.

My go to setup is Power Pro Super Slick main line with a 3-6 ft Suffix 100% fluorocarbon leader, joined with a blood knot. I generally go 8lb on both, but I'll drop down to a 6lb leader if it's really touchy.

[calgarygringo]

I am in the braid/flouro combo group as well. I also tie a swivel in between the 2 for twist and also for ease of changing leaders. I usually use around 10 or 12 lb for walleye but if we run into a bunch of pike I quickly tie a 40 or 50lb flouro leader on for the toothy ones.

[cube]

Originally Posted by Walleyedude

This is my experience too. It does make a difference. The difference is huge in really finesse situations, and less pronounced in more aggressive presentations. Having said that, I can honestly say I've even seen an improvement in catch rates by using a 10-15 ft fluorocarbon leader when trolling crankbaits rather than braid right to the crank. It's not a big change, but it's there, especially when the bite is tough.

The other major benefit in my opinion to having a fluorocarbon leader is that re-tying your jig is a piece of cake. Simple palomar knot and bite off the tag end. If you're using straight braid, you're gonna need scissors or a knife and it's a little trickier to deal with. Grabbing your line is a lot more user friendly with fluoro too compared to braid.

My go to setup is Power Pro Super Slick main line with a 3-6 ft Suffix 100% fluorocarbon leader, joined with a blood knot. I generally go 8lb on both, but I'll drop down to a 6lb leader if it's really touchy.

I used to do exactly the same as you but after seeing the line to flouro data on knots I changed to an inline swivel to make the connection. Most braid to flouro knots weaken the line by about 13-50 percent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R_2xautA1U
While line to swivel knots don't weaken the line nearly as much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91aqhBQFLPk
Given an 8lb line weakening it by 25% gives you a 6 lb line which is a bit light with no advantages gained.
I also find that with the swivel it is faster and easier to change the flour leader and helps with line twist.
I use very small high grade swivels and they test out around 40lbs. And again they are tiny.

[Azashi]

Originally Posted by walleyechaser

Walleye are not nearly as line shy as people make them to be, especially river walleye

I went pike fishing with a 20lb braided line and a steel leader.

I pulled up 3 walleye and a single pike.

On a large pike lure.

[martinbns]

I use 10lb PowerPro, usually the bright yellow and a 5-6' PLine shinsei flouro leader.

I tie it with an Alberto knot, very strong and very small, no hiccups going through the guides.

[MooseRiverTrapper]

The only thing I don’t like about braided mainline is that when you get those 8 pounders to the boat and they start doing a few head shakes you have to be gentle. No stretch in the line and have had a few lightly hooked ones get off.

[Fishwhere]

I would say depends on how you are fishing. If youre jigging then i would say to think about a flouro or mono leader. If casting and moving hooks around a decent amount you can get away with alot more obviously.

Good luck

[Squidlips]

Lots of personal preference, but all following the same baseline. Great tips thanks


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[Squidlips]

Great advice everyone


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