Wabamun Wednesday - Page 2

hockeyfish · #31 03-14-2009, 02:50 PM

ya, i've been seeing tons of whites at gull...and catching tons too

HPF, your dumb

pdfish · #32 03-14-2009, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seahawkfisher

not to get on the bash- HPF train again but people have been fishing that canal for longer than you have been alive. from the end of october to ice season, i fish wab more times per season than you fish in a year. in all of the times i have gone out there (and i'm talking about before they made it C&r) i would be fishing amongst many other anglers and would only ever see one group of people keeping fish. ironically it was always the same boat (not everyone) and they wouldn't even keep the big fish. they did nothing to the quallity of the fishery.
all of this is irrelevant if you do a little reserch into the history of the lake and where the name comes from; people have been pulling massive numbers of fish out of that lake since before this place was called canada. the name of the lake says it all. making it c&r will likely be the cause of a decline in that fishery
cheers

Exactly, I've been fishing the warm water canal for at least 15 years now and the fishing is better than ever. HPF, your claims about there being hundreds of guys on shore...can I please get some of whatever you're smoking...I've fished that canal lots and the most I've ever seen is maybe 16-20 anglers. I was willing to give you a chance, but after your comments on Pigeon (or lack of comments on Pigeon), about you knowing things that SRD doesn't but you don't want to share your thoughts because you don't want people to know...get real. If you knew half as much as you think you do, you wouldn't be complaining about the fishing, you'd be out there catching fish and having fun.

Morph1 · #33 03-14-2009, 09:14 PM

Dude there is no problem of you catching a small pike and posting a pic , nothing wrong with it !!!!, but the day you were catching those fish it was -30 celcius not concidering the wind chill factor !!! I could imagine must've been like - 40 at times , it is absolutely essential to handle a fish in those conditions the least you can and that is the problem,
not you're enjoying yourself catching a few gators and I just wanted to point out in a friendly manner that it makes absolutely no sense in weighing those fish in that cold, you can simply guesstimate how much they weigh by looking at it. So chill out and enjoy this forum , after all we all by law can comment and converse about anything we want in a humanly manner

To the guys that claim that the fishing had been better than in the past lol, boys you gotta get out at least more than once to compare what the fishing was like 10 - 5 years ago and now,
just because you went out once and were caught in a fish feeding frenzy and caught numerous 4- 5 pound jacks on one occasion does not mean that the fishing will be like that all the time

I fish the season at least 2 - 3 times a week I used to catch at least 3 to 4 x the amount of fish I caught last season and I arrive at the lake at 4:00 am in the morning to make sure I won't miss much of the first action, I have noticed a great change in fishing quality from even 5 years back as to what it's become !!!

Cheers ! have a cold one .....
and HPF is right about lots of things - fishing is not the same anymore as it used to be.

JohninAB · #34 03-14-2009, 11:20 PM

Raven, best you check into some lakes and their fates when it came to fishing and changes to the limits. Maybe check into the walleye fishery at Long Lake near Boyle. What did it take, 3 months to clean that lake out of walleyes over the limit size. That is proven by surveys conducted on the lake. Little bit more scientific than your ramblings. Maybe also check out Iosegun Lake near Fox Creek.

Wabamun would not survive a full blown open season very long. Fishing pressure would go way up and the consequences would be disastrous at best for the long range sustainability of the fishery. That has been proven time and time again at our lakes here in Alberta when fishing regulations have become more liberal in terms of retaining fish. Maybe it is time to leave the fishery closed and let it develop and grow and then maybe in a few years reopen it for a limited catch and retain program.

Our lakes in this province are under tremendous fishing pressure and unless we have a mass exodus of people it is only going to get worse.

As for the original post, when it is that cold out, fish can be terminally affected by being out of the water for any length of time. Best to release as soon as possible to ensure the fish lives to fight another day. Also what Kyle stated about weighing big fish, it is proven fact that damage to their spines is prevalent and though released seemingly healthy, that they do not survive as the damage has been done. I am sure the fishermen in question meant no harm but having these things pointed out should also not be seen as nitpicking or the holier than thou type attitude, just some gentlemen passing along information that can help save our fisheries here in the province. I would also agree though, that delivery of that message has to be done in a way that is informative and non-judgemental.

My 2 cents worth.

PS: nice fish guys and congrats on the day of fishing!

Raven · #35 03-15-2009, 04:43 AM

Morph..I would completely roast you any day at fishing, hands down. I fish both days of the weekend every weekend and sometimes week days. Haven't missed a weekend yet this ice season or last open water season. My personal bests this season if you care to know are pike: 16 one day, biggest 25 pounds...whitefish: 17 one day, biggest 23.5 inches...perch un-countable, lets just say 20 one day over 12 inches and walleye: 12 one day biggest 8 pounds. Perhaps you have to learn different ways of fishing instead of trying the same hole on the same lake with the same equipment time after time.

John - How big is long lake? I would lay money on the fact its quite small. So back to the question I asked before...why is Gull the best its been in years? It has a 'full blown open season" and just keeps getting better.

"Wabamun would not survive a full blown open season very long. Fishing pressure would go way up and the consequences would be disastrous at best for the long range sustainability of the fishery." Oh sooooooo wrong. Are you aware that Wabamun has been 'a full blown season' for decades now? They just closed it this year. Why has it always had huge pike and un-countable whitefish? By the way you talk you dont sound like you fish Wabamun a lot.

Tight lines.

JohninAB · #36 03-15-2009, 07:38 AM

Raven, you never know, I may fish it more than you do.

You sure have a high opinion of yourself but then again maybe that is the only positive opinion anyone has of you so guess it is better than none. People who come on here spouting off they can outfish everyone in Alberta are usually wannabes who are talking big to try and impress everyone but most on here see thru it.

Wabamun is not a very big lake, maybe you should get out into the real world and actually go to a big lake. Maybe one day stop patting yourself on the back and venture to a few different lakes. Size of lake is one thing, habitat and forage within that lake is what will determine the fishery more than anything else though.

As you are such the knowledgable man on Wabamun, what is the age class structure like for the pike there? After the train wreck, has the age classes since then been typical or have they changed? Has the spawning survival stayed consistent since the train wreck or has it changed? Our population in Alberta has grown significantly the past few years, how has this affected number of fishermen/day on Wabamun? Do you have statistical data to back up your assertions? As you seem to know so much about the lake, what have your creel surveys indicated for the last 5 years?

I mean answer those questions with some documented proof and SRD will surely reopen the lake and give you a big thank you.

#37 03-15-2009, 11:25 AM

Raven, stop tooting your own horn. Your giving us guys from Ontario a bad name. Mr weekend warrior LOL or Raven as your known, if you had fished many of the lakes in Ontario back in the day then you have a lot to learn. Many of the Southern Ontario lakes are now overfished and lacking any sustainability over the next 5 years because the government refuses to close them. Trust me, I would know, I lived and fished on one of the larger ones for 20 plus years.

You will gradually see Alberta take the same path if measures are not taken.
With the major increase in the population you will slowly see these lakes decline if the government does not get their act together and introduce some rotating slot limits.

If some of you guys want to start treating your fisheries the same way we treat the oil in this province, we're all in for a big suprise in 15 years when the lakes have zero sustainability without the helping hand of big brother stocking our lakes every year. It would be a shame to see it come to that so lets be a little proactive now and steer the boat in the right direction.

happy perch fisher · #38 03-15-2009, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven

Morph..I would completely roast you any day at fishing, hands down. I fish both days of the weekend every weekend and sometimes week days. Haven't missed a weekend yet this ice season or last open water season. My personal bests this season if you care to know are pike: 16 one day, biggest 25 pounds...whitefish: 17 one day, biggest 23.5 inches...perch un-countable, lets just say 20 one day over 12 inches and walleye: 12 one day biggest 8 pounds. Perhaps you have to learn different ways of fishing instead of trying the same hole on the same lake with the same equipment time after time.

John - How big is long lake? I would lay money on the fact its quite small. So back to the question I asked before...why is Gull the best its been in years? It has a 'full blown open season" and just keeps getting better.

"Wabamun would not survive a full blown open season very long. Fishing pressure would go way up and the consequences would be disastrous at best for the long range sustainability of the fishery." Oh sooooooo wrong. Are you aware that Wabamun has been 'a full blown season' for decades now? They just closed it this year. Why has it always had huge pike and un-countable whitefish? By the way you talk you dont sound like you fish Wabamun a lot.

Tight lines.

You know nothing of gull do you. Its use to be the most amazing fishery ever. Where you could use a plain hook and a maggot and you would catch a whitefish almost every 20 seconds. Now you have to use a certain hook that they like and you sit there all day and maybe catch a couple. The only time this is different is when the burbot spawn is on. The whitefish get super stupid and start hitting everything. But its not even comparable to 15 years ago. This has been the worse year for burbot i have seen. There numbers are going down each year. But just because raven hits them during the spawn and has only fished the lake for past 2 years so he just thinks everything perfectly fine. His only response to this was i suck at fishing. Yah that explains everything raven. I wasn't going to respond to this bs anymore but raven is so full of **** i had 2.

Morph1 · #39 03-15-2009, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven

Morph..I would completely roast you any day at fishing, hands down. I fish both days of the weekend every weekend and sometimes week days. Haven't missed a weekend yet this ice season or last open water season. My personal bests this season if you care to know are pike: 16 one day, biggest 25 pounds...whitefish: 17 one day, biggest 23.5 inches...perch un-countable, lets just say 20 one day over 12 inches and walleye: 12 one day biggest 8 pounds. Perhaps you have to learn different ways of fishing instead of trying the same hole on the same lake with the same equipment time after time.

Tight lines.

RAVEN lol, sorry Bro I wasn't aware I was talking to a National Fishing Champion, dude 16 pike in one day ROFLMFAO !!

12 walleyes a day ??? man I stand no chance against you , you're simply a fishing God , hold on, let me bow down now, I seriously admire your catch rates I wish I was just like you

Let me ask you something "fishing the same lake with the same equipment" ??? what do you mean by that, I thought you simply use a rod that comes with a reel, line and a hook , what is it that you maybe using?? am I missing something here, can you reveal the secret bro cause I feel shattered

edit lol it isn't by chance that small handy purple DORA rod with a little yellow fishie by chance is it ? cause if that's the case, well then I might get lucky cause my daughters got one just like it

with such a catch rates as yours, You simply became my national hero, my champ...
I'll make sure that if I need a professional opinion you will be the first one my list to ask for a advice.

Cheers mate and hit that lake & catch a big one for all of us to see

and regarding my reply to the original poster , dude I meant no harm all I said was that it was inappropriate to keep that fish out of the water to take time to take that photo and weigh the fish that day, thats all , I have learned a lot from this board from other users , but rather taking it as an insult or bashing I took it as a informative advice and learned from it.

fish on · #40 03-15-2009, 12:53 PM

for the comments on the size
who cares
you had fun with thouse hammer handles
any day on the lake is a good day
its better to keep the small ones than the big females get off the couch and enjoy some hard water fishing and quit bitching
I havent been on here in a month because of all the bull

GO FISH

kennedy · #41 03-15-2009, 01:14 PM

he uses a net that glows in the water

jacob1202 · #42 03-22-2009, 09:40 AM

morph 1 ur a punk get a life....u have nothing better to do than ruin a great day had on the lake by ur dirogatory comments....go watch some more porn

RedFisher · #43 04-08-2009, 11:27 PM

wow this is a heated comversation...

i dont know what to say really i used to fish wabanum hard back in the days and years leading up to the train wreck... didnt fish their for a few years and this year i went there and was wowed!!

i spent the morning fishing for white's and pulled in about 30 to 40 myself with the old man shortly behind and fished hard for pike in the afternoon getting a big surprise and pulling in 3 walley also...2 were about 4-6 pounds and one big one being about 10-12 pounds... its nice to see them comming back havent seen nevermind caught a walley that big out of there in at least 10 years... anyways pike ranged from 12 to 31 pounds average was about 18 or so... caught quite a few but not like it used to be... im all for the shutting down of the lake it'll give it a few more years to bring the numbers up.. even before the spill i noticed that over the years the whitefish population was going down and they wernt growing as big as they used to....oo yah pull a bigin out of there weighed out to be just under 6 pounds

wow was that fun seen a few schools and had a blast thats what fishin's all about...

and just got one question where abouts were people going to catch pearch?? were they big small ok size?? just woundering for next year never really had luck at wabanum for perch but would love to take my little brother out next year for some...

JohnnyCustom · #44 04-10-2009, 10:11 PM

Go to hassey for perch. Massive population there.

fluxcore · #45 04-10-2009, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven

HPF your completely clueless. Gull is getting fished out? Learn how to fish maybe! People have had their best days on gull as of late, especially for big pike. I understand though, your a little kid, only get out when daddy takes you. I know more about fishing than you ever will. Yes I know the situation in Ontario and here, a lot better than you do. Your the biggest poacher i've heard of. The bull-ish you spew about releasing everything you catch? Ya right bro, you cant even fish without chumming the whole area with eggs. Way to go. As for your brutal spelling, has nothing to do with going back to check it...has to do with the fact your in grade 6. Wabbum isn't a typo, its you looking like a fool because you dont know ****! My suggestion is stay off the lakes because I know who you are and see where you fish. Wouldn't want barbed trebs snagging your tent only to see it go up in flames now would you. Tight Lines.

Ive fished Gull for years and have pulled some monsters outa there in the past, Ill give happy this one the lake has gone down hill and fast. The wally are but non existent and the perch have become extreamly hard to find. Dont get me started with the pike

lots of people keeping spawners these days which is fine but it does hurt the fishery.

buckmaster · #46 04-11-2009, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happy perch fisher

You know nothing of gull do you. Its use to be the most amazing fishery ever. Where you could use a plain hook and a maggot and you would catch a whitefish almost every 20 seconds. Now you have to use a certain hook that they like and you sit there all day and maybe catch a couple. The only time this is different is when the burbot spawn is on. .

I would say the exact same thing as pigeon lake!!!

FisherPotch · #47 04-11-2009, 07:51 AM

Very heated battle here.

My 2 cents. If you weigh a fish that is going to be released.......get a cradle net, tare the scale with the net hanging. Place fish in cradle. If you weigh a fish by its gills your a ******* idiot. The less time out of the H2O the better so ****ing around with cradles and what not in the cold is not cool. Use gloves when handling a fish. In the winter pay attention to ambient temperature. In the summer pay attention to water temp. If you need a pic or a measurement have the tool to do it VERY handy as to cut down the amount of time out of the water.

Do any of you watch WFN?? I don't have cable even and I know there is plenty to learn there especially for the clueless types out there.

I've caught so many big eye's out the NSR and never scaled one. Not ******* one! And I have pics, I don't just spray BULL**** allover like I have seen some do on here. Need I post pics? Or will someone back me on the amount of big eye pics I've posted?

I have not been around on the forum much lately but I have a feeling that Raven doesn't post many pictures. Any one recall an 8 lb eye? Cuz that’s picture worthy.

I'd also like to see this 10-12 pound walleye. No pic? Why am I not surprised.

Can't wait till The NSR opens up a lil more......so I can show the numbskulls proper C&R fish handling techniques with photographic evidence.

I have never fished Wab but I get pressured to go all the time. Anyone that catches a 10-12 eye on a C&R lake and doesn’t get a quick pic is so full of it.

Get used to C&R or ******* move. Get used to walleye tags! Or *******move! Get the hell out of this province because here I like to think we have RESPECT for life! Weigh you by your ******* ears and see how you like it. Gill and spine damage you blatant fools! PPL take there own lives using their own body weight. I don't think it right but what you do on your own time is up to you!

But when something as blatantly unethical as weighing a C&R fish by its gills is posted I am proud of the users that step up and let the gentleman know NOT to do that. Anyone that could support this scaling technique or the extra time out of water should be banned from this site. That’s right BANNED, there are people that use this site as a source of edjumacation (cuz u no what it meant!). This is a forum not an essay for your grammar teacher. I agree that HPF's post can get confusing at times but I'll also state that I have seen GREAT improvement in his grammar since I first encountered him on an internet forum. And HPF and I have had many a run-in on forums, but he is on the right side the line this one.

I have a saying "it don't matter how straight the line is, it matters what side the line you are on"

As a proud Albertan and Outdoorsman I am ******* disgusted by some of the **** I just read.

Fact of the matter is this is AB. Little amounts of water and cruise ship loads of uneducated ******ed fisherman that develop biased opinions rather than learning from legit university and biologist studies.

Guy Incognito - Splendid post IMHO

JohnAB - U da man

There are plenty of valid points on this thread

I say close them ******* all!!! There are way too many dip****'s out there that think they are above the law and know better than people that are educated on the topic.

99.5% Catch and release and DAMN proud of it! To each there own though. I just don't have it in me anymore to have such a blatant disregard for life. Be it fish, critter or man.

To those that fish Wab. Embrace the C&R fishery my friends. Someone said the canal is better than ever. IMHO that’s cuz nobody has been keeping any hogs. Stay tuned, this is bound to be an amazing fishery with time. And if it puked out a ten pound plus eye someone is in for a magnificent surprise. Please take a picture to share, unless it means keeping the fish out of water for two mins while you dig your camera out.

Sorry for the super rant. Tight lines!

RedFisher · #48 04-14-2009, 10:56 PM

hey there FisherPotch i know the comment wasnt directed at me but thought i would make a comment on the 10-12 pound walley... i got a 12 pounder earlyer in the ishfishing season... i'll post a picture within the next few days gotta get it off my home computer not my labtop....

FisherPotch · #49 04-15-2009, 03:46 AM

PM on route! Nice catch, I love them pigeye's .

Dakota369 · #50 04-15-2009, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooseknuckle

Hey it's important. We fire these suckers out of a home made cannon it's absolutely crusual to know the weight in order to gauge the proper amount of fuel required to get them to 300 yards. Kidding of course. It was a first time catch for a couple of these fella's they wanted to know weight. Why not these fish were out 10-15 secs tops! I'll be sure to pass along your negaitve comments and "fishing ethics" to my pals. I just thought I'd share. You sure know how to make a guy feel welcome on forum ment for Hunters/Fisherman sharing a nice day out enjoying the sport.

Great answer!! haahahahahahhahahaha

RedFisher · #51 04-16-2009, 05:25 PM

http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/t...09/BigPike.jpg

hope this works... this is one of the 20 or 30 double headers we had at wabanum... the big one is just 26 pounds...113cm... and the small one is 18 pounds or so... great fishing in the last week... pulled up a 6 pound whitfish out of there... i'll try and get a picture...

gpguy7 · #52 04-16-2009, 05:53 PM

redfisher, link doesnt work for me.