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12-05-2020, 12:17 PM
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What's the law on that again?
Hi folks,
The law isn't always easy to understand. What are some of your hunting/law related questions that you've always had but have never had answered? Can be fire arm related too.
Or what is an experience that you once found yourself in, unsure of the legality of your options?
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12-05-2020, 12:32 PM
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Shooting birds on a road that is not regularly maintained or graded
Says you can use a shotgun
Said nothing about a bow tho
So I called. Game wardens at Edmonton office said it was legal to also use a bow. I kept the message
Cant shoot at big game from a road as above, but a shotgun or bow at birds is legal
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12-05-2020, 12:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by huntinstuff
Shooting birds on a road that is not regularly maintained or graded
Says you can use a shotgun
Said nothing about a bow tho
So I called. Game wardens at Edmonton office said it was legal to also use a bow. I kept the message
Cant shoot at big game from a road as above, but a shotgun or bow at birds is legal
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If you can shoot at Birds on a road that's not maintained I'm sure you can shoot at big game on a road if it's not maintained are marked.
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12-05-2020, 12:51 PM
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Evidence of sex to be kept on big game animals. For what purpose???
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12-05-2020, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by huntwat
Evidence of sex to be kept on big game animals. For what purpose???
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I would have thought that was self explanatory - some licences are for one sex or the other and not both.
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12-05-2020, 02:01 PM
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You can hunt on land that is posted “No Hunting” as long as you have permission or own the land.
You can shoot out your bathroom window from inside your house as long as you live there, or have the occupants say so. Not recommended in rural subdivision’s.
There are no buck tags, doe tags, bull tags or cow tags, only under specific situations calf moose tags, in Alberta. It’s antlered, antlerless, trophy, or non trophy and calf moose.
“Button bucks“ or tiny spikers(<4”) are classed as antlerless game. And yes Virginia if you shoot a “button buck“ and tag it under a supplemental antlerless licence, you best be leaving the head attached.
Unless you’ve got a handicap permit, you cannot shoot from or on a motor vehicle, and yes “gophers“ in your own pasture included.
Feeding wild game meat to you dogs is considered spoilage.
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12-05-2020, 02:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
You can hunt on land that is posted “No Hunting”
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That one is a classic.....
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12-05-2020, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCLightning
I would have thought that was self explanatory - some licences are for one sex or the other and not both.
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Really? I only see the terms antlered, antlerless, trophy, and non-trophy. Other than possible confusion over yearling Big Horn rams vs. ewes, not sure how those terms apply to the genitalia of the other species?
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12-05-2020, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCLightning
I would have thought that was self explanatory - some licences are for one sex or the other and not both.
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Licenses are usually for antlered or antlerless, not male or female.
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12-05-2020, 02:59 PM
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Waterninja would of liked this thread.
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12-05-2020, 03:11 PM
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floating a not field dressed moose across a waterbody for better access to loading. allowed yes/no
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12-05-2020, 03:13 PM
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Moose
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Originally Posted by huntwat
Evidence of sex to be kept on big game animals. For what purpose???
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If you shoot a moose, you don`t have to pack the head out to prove sex when there is the udder or testicle sac attached to the hind quarter.
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12-05-2020, 03:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brass410
floating a not field dressed moose across a waterbody for better access to loading. allowed yes/no
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Id say yes as long as it’s all in the same wmu and nowhere near private or park lands . But that’s the point of the thread. I don’t actually know.
Are you transporting unrated game? Maybe tag it and drag it? Lol.
Anyone with an actual answer?
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12-05-2020, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by antlercarver
If you shoot a moose, you don`t have to pack the head out to prove sex when there is the udder or testicle sac attached to the hind quarter.
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The head is the one item that has to be with the carcass to prove antlered or antlerless.
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12-05-2020, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
Waterninja would of liked this thread.
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From the questions he asked, and the excuses he made to defend illegal actions , I don't think that he actually cared about the regulations. Anyone that really cared, would have at least made an effort to learn the regulations before hunting.
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12-05-2020, 03:48 PM
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It doesn’t make sense to me that we have tags for antlered and antlerless animals, but don’t have to keep the head attached to the carcass if you leave the udder or scrotum attached.
I shot a button buck on an antlerless tag and had to drag the whole damn thing half a mile instead of just quartering it like I was going to with a a doe.
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12-05-2020, 03:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by huntwat
The head is the one item that has to be with the carcass to prove antlered or antlerless.
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It’s not a legal requirement. Stupid I know...
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12-05-2020, 03:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple
It’s not a legal requirement. Stupid I know...
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But, in a zone with point requirements, better have it.
Grizz
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12-05-2020, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
But, in a zone with point requirements, better have it.
Grizz
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Yes sorry I was replying to the moose part.
Male antelope, non trophy sheep and elk must keep the head with antlers, as well as calf moose must keep the head.
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12-05-2020, 04:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCLightning
I would have thought that was self explanatory - some licences are for one sex or the other and not both.
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You aren’t looking for balls before you shoot.
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12-05-2020, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCLightning
I would have thought that was self explanatory - some licences are for one sex or the other and not both.
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General WT tag is valid for both antlered/antler less
Not the only general tag like that either
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12-05-2020, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoky buck
General WT tag is valid for both antlered/antler less
Not the only general tag like that either
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Except it isn’t a general tag, it’s a general season, or archery season, and a resident licence and tag, and depending on the zone you are in, you may not be able to use that licence and tag, or it might only be valid for antlered, or it could be valid for either antlered and antlerless.
An example licence name is:
Resident White-tailed Deer Licence
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12-05-2020, 06:14 PM
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Local farmer got pulled over by RCMP headed home after last light from his hunting spot. Unloaded rifle on passenger seat. Officer tore a strip off him and threatened to confiscate rifle because he didn’t have a trigger lock on rifle.
I thought that if your in your vehicle with your rifle you don’t need a lock.
Anyone know what the law says.
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12-05-2020, 06:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapperMike
Local farmer got pulled over by RCMP headed home after last light from his hunting spot. Unloaded rifle on passenger seat. Officer tore a strip off him and threatened to confiscate rifle because he didn’t have a trigger lock on rifle.
I thought that if your in your vehicle with your rifle you don’t need a lock.
Anyone know what the law says.
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Officer is wrong. Only requirement for transport of a non restricted firearm while you are in the vehicle is that it is unloaded. It would fairly tough truck hunting otherwise. Some provinces have additional rules like having too be cased after legal light and such, but Alberta does not.
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12-05-2020, 06:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
Except it isn’t a general tag, it’s a general season, or archery season, and a resident licence and tag, and depending on the zone you are in, you may not be able to use that licence and tag, or it might only be valid for antlered, or it could be valid for either antlered and antlerless.
An example licence name is:
Resident White-tailed Deer Licence
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You would be correct
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12-05-2020, 06:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapperMike
Local farmer got pulled over by RCMP headed home after last light from his hunting spot. Unloaded rifle on passenger seat. Officer tore a strip off him and threatened to confiscate rifle because he didn’t have a trigger lock on rifle.
I thought that if your in your vehicle with your rifle you don’t need a lock.
Anyone know what the law says.
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The law is simple:
Unloaded.
It’s places like Ontario and some of the maritimes that have provincial rules That add to the transport rules, and the fact that members of the RCMP don’t take the CFSC, and their only experience with firearms may come from one of the oppressive provinces, so the members only know what they know and have experienced where they came from, and just assume it’s that way everywhere.
They are also taught when in doubt charge and sort those charges out back at the detachment.
This is why every licence firearms owner need to understand and carry the pamphlet on transport, display, and storage of firearms.
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12-05-2020, 06:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapperMike
Local farmer got pulled over by RCMP headed home after last light from his hunting spot. Unloaded rifle on passenger seat. Officer tore a strip off him and threatened to confiscate rifle because he didn’t have a trigger lock on rifle.
I thought that if your in your vehicle with your rifle you don’t need a lock.
Anyone know what the law says.
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Not the first RCMP officer to make that mistake. I actually know someone who had their rifle confiscated under that same “law”. When he went to the detachment with a copy of the firearms transports laws in hand the rifle was returned with an apology
I have heard of others that have experienced RCMP officers making the same claim over the years
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12-05-2020, 07:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
You can hunt on land that is posted “No Hunting” as long as you have permission or own the land.
You can shoot out your bathroom window from inside your house as long as you live there, or have the occupants say so. Not recommended in rural subdivision’s.
There are no buck tags, doe tags, bull tags or cow tags, only under specific situations calf moose tags, in Alberta. It’s antlered, antlerless, trophy, or non trophy and calf moose.
“Button bucks“ or tiny spikers(<4”) are classed as antlerless game. And yes Virginia if you shoot a “button buck“ and tag it under a supplemental antlerless licence, you best be leaving the head attached.
Unless you’ve got a handicap permit, you cannot shoot from or on a motor vehicle, and yes “gophers“ in your own pasture included.
Feeding wild game meat to you dogs is considered spoilage.
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I'd like to see a link for that please.
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12-05-2020, 07:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
The law is simple:
Unloaded.
It’s places like Ontario and some of the maritimes that have provincial rules That add to the transport rules, and the fact that members of the RCMP don’t take the CFSC, and their only experience with firearms may come from one of the oppressive provinces, so the members only know what they know and have experienced where they came from, and just assume it’s that way everywhere.
They are also taught when in doubt charge and sort those charges out back at the detachment.
This is why every licence firearms owner need to understand and carry the pamphlet on transport, display, and storage of firearms.
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Just another reason to fear the Provincial Administrative Penalties Act. When an officer has no fear of having to go before a judge because of his ignorance, will he really care if he charges someone because he doesn't fully understand the regulations in Alberta?
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12-05-2020, 07:13 PM
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You aren’t looking for balls before you shoot.
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For non-trophy sheep I do.
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