New Alberta Bill introduces fines for illegal protests

[Ken07AOVette]

https://dailyhive.com/calgary/albert...B1kWIPz2QHIemY

The Alberta government announced today the introduction of a new bill, that, if passed, would create strict penalties for protesters blocking “critical infrastructure.”

Bill 1, the Critical Infrastructure Defence Act, imposes stiff new penalties on protesters who block critical, essential infrastructure, with fines of up to $10,000 and $25,000 for first and subsequent offences, as well as possible prison time of up to six months.

According to a release, the bill “would designate infrastructure such as railways, highways and pipelines as critical and create offences for trespassing, interfering with operations and construction, and causing damage.”

The release continues, “Corporations that aid, counsel, or direct the commission of an offence could face fines of up to $200,000. In addition, where a corporation commits an offence, the officer, director or agent of the corporation who directed or authorized it would be liable to penalty.”


Now make the Corporation fines $2,000,000 and $200,000,000 for the second offense and companies might take notice. A $200,000 fine is money well spent for them.

[kritz]

It is all fine and good with the larger penalties, Who is going to pay these? People will actually have to be convicted, or arrested and fined? Convictions do not happen in the fairy tale world of handouts we live in now a days.

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by kritz

It is all fine and good with the larger penalties, Who is going to pay these? People will actually have to be convicted, or arrested and fined? Convictions do not happen in the fairy tale world of handouts we live in now a days.

You might be surprised, this is substantial enough, and causes enough grief Canada-wide that Government and Forces are going to pay attention. Fines in the Hundreds of Thousands mean $$$ in the coffers.

This may be the kick in the ass that is required.

[Smoky buck]

The problem is the blockades are not within Alberta. It’s a good idea but unless the rest of the country follows suit it won’t have much impact. The other thing is these protesters are already breaking laws but there is a lack of enforcement

It’s a step in the right direction though

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

The problem is the blockades are not within Alberta. It’s a good idea but unless the rest of the country follows suit it won’t have much impact. The other thing is these protesters are already breaking laws but there is a lack of enforcement

It’s a step in the right direction though

Yet. They have set up in Edmonton for a short time, expect those to grow after twinkletoes shed a tear and said please stop, showing we have no teeth.

If this is passed the other Provinces 'may' follow.

[bat119]

90% of protesters don't work and you can't squeeze blood from a stone, garnish the welfare ? Jail terms would be more appropriate but that would be unconstitutional we are so screwed.

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by bat119

90% of protesters don't work and you can't squeeze blood from a stone, garnish the welfare ? Jail terms would be more appropriate but that would be unconstitutional we are so screwed.

And that is where community service comes into play. May not be able to get $ out of them but free labor and keeping them too busy to protest is very possible

[ESOXangler]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

The problem is the blockades are not within Alberta. It’s a good idea but unless the rest of the country follows suit it won’t have much impact. The other thing is these protesters are already breaking laws but there is a lack of enforcement

It’s a step in the right direction though

It's a terrible idea. Its washing away more civil liberties. I am all for allowing the RCMP to come and arrest the protesters when necessary. That's their job!

The problem here is that one day there may just be something you will want to be protesting against. IE firearms or healthcare. But you're not going to cause I guarantee theres not a snow balls chance you could afford the fines. These measures are all about controlling everyone including the unions. Once Kenney crumples the unions he will be coming after everybody's wages. It will only hurt us all.

[ESOXangler]

Also all organizations supporting the protests should have to public disclose all investors and supports. And if we really feel like finding people fine out of country protestors and paid protestors.

[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by ESOXangler

It's a terrible idea. Its washing away more civil liberties. I am all for allowing the RCMP to come and arrest the protesters when necessary. That's their job!

The problem here is that one day there may just be something you will want to be protesting against. IE firearms or healthcare. But you're not going to cause I guarantee theres not a snow balls chance you could afford the fines. These measures are all about controlling everyone including the unions. Once Kenney crumples the unions he will be coming after everybody's wages. It will only hurt us all.

We would never get away protesting on a rail way as it is now.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by ESOXangler

It's a terrible idea. Its washing away more civil liberties. I am all for allowing the RCMP to come and arrest the protesters when necessary. That's their job!

The problem here is that one day there may just be something you will want to be protesting against. IE firearms or healthcare. But you're not going to cause I guarantee theres not a snow balls chance you could afford the fines. These measures are all about controlling everyone including the unions. Once Kenney crumples the unions he will be coming after everybody's wages. It will only hurt us all.

You are confusing legal protests, with illegal protests, there is a huge difference.

[BuckCuller]

Originally Posted by ESOXangler

It's a terrible idea. Its washing away more civil liberties. I am all for allowing the RCMP to come and arrest the protesters when necessary. That's their job!

The problem here is that one day there may just be something you will want to be protesting against. IE firearms or healthcare. But you're not going to cause I guarantee theres not a snow balls chance you could afford the fines. These measures are all about controlling everyone including the unions. Once Kenney crumples the unions he will be coming after everybody's wages. It will only hurt us all.

No time for protesting here.
I’m to busy working so I can pay the government so they can pay the protesters enough to protest the money I make.

[7magtime]

Originally Posted by ESOXangler

It's a terrible idea. Its washing away more civil liberties. I am all for allowing the RCMP to come and arrest the protesters when necessary. That's their job!

The problem here is that one day there may just be something you will want to be protesting against. IE firearms or healthcare. But you're not going to cause I guarantee theres not a snow balls chance you could afford the fines. These measures are all about controlling everyone including the unions. Once Kenney crumples the unions he will be coming after everybody's wages. It will only hurt us all.

Agreed, I think these fines/penalties were more created for the upcoming health care/education/firearms bans unrest than the current protests going on IMO. I also agree that if protesters at illegal blockades were arrested and actually held with charges and court dates this may not be needed.....

[antlercarver]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

https://dailyhive.com/calgary/albert...B1kWIPz2QHIemY

The Alberta government announced today the introduction of a new bill, that, if passed, would create strict penalties for protesters blocking “critical infrastructure.”

Bill 1, the Critical Infrastructure Defence Act, imposes stiff new penalties on protesters who block critical, essential infrastructure, with fines of up to $10,000 and $25,000 for first and subsequent offences, as well as possible prison time of up to six months.

According to a release, the bill “would designate infrastructure such as railways, highways and pipelines as critical and create offences for trespassing, interfering with operations and construction, and causing damage.”

The release continues, “Corporations that aid, counsel, or direct the commission of an offence could face fines of up to $200,000. In addition, where a corporation commits an offence, the officer, director or agent of the corporation who directed or authorized it would be liable to penalty.”


Now make the Corporation fines $2,000,000 and $200,000,000 for the second offense and companies might take notice. A $200,000 fine is money well spent for them.

Does that mean administration office of FN community will face these fines if members of that community are part of a illegal demonstration?

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by antlercarver

Does that mean administration office of FN community will face these fines if members of that community are part of a illegal demonstration?

Are you kidding? Ever hear the term 'thrown out to the wolves'?

There are already countless testimonies from within the bands stating they are against the protests, think that is not carefully orchestrated?

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by antlercarver

Does that mean administration office of FN community will face these fines if members of that community are part of a illegal demonstration?

that would be awesome and pay for the ones in prison to...funds taken right off the initial paycheck the guberment hands out then let'em take care of their own....which would happen real soon ohhh wait no it wouldn't cuz they would protest of harsh doings....complete circle jerk.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

that would be awesome and pay for the ones in prison to...funds taken right off the initial paycheck the guberment hands out then let'em take care of their own....which would happen real soon ohhh wait no it wouldn't cuz they would protest of harsh doings....complete circle jerk.

But if the police seized and impounded every vehicle that was used to get someone, or any supplies, food, etc. to an illegal protest, it would discourage the protesters, and it would help to offset the cost to police these protests. And if they Charter a bus, or take a taxi, seize them, the companies will soon stop accepting passengers going to protest locations. Protests only work if the people and supplies can get to the protest location.

[JD848]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

But if the police seized and impounded every vehicle that was used to get someone, or any supplies, food, etc. to an illegal protest, it would discourage the protesters, and it would help to offset the cost to police these protests. And if they Charter a bus, or take a taxi, seize them, the companies will soon stop accepting passengers going to protest locations. Protests only work if the people and supplies can get to the protest location.

Seize every thing that is used in committing an illegal act, even there shoes.

Anyone wearing a mask and carrying a weapon of any type and does not put it down and comply with the law shall be shot. If I was a leo I wouldn't want to be killed by taking that risk from someone hiding his face.

I think JT should remove his mask also and let us all see the coward tattoo on his head.

JD