Varget????

ABwhitetail · #1 03-11-2008, 02:42 PM

I am hoping some one has seen some of the above....

Wouldn't you know it, I find a "shooter" load for my 7mm-08 and it seems everyone is sold out of Varget!!!!

I have checked with P&D, Lock & Load, No Sale.....and same story, the hodgson orders are sitting in the magical mystery place waiting for approval to enter Canada....when..who knows????

Anyway, if anyone knows of some in the Edmonton area....and could let me know...that would be GREAT!!!

Thanks

sullijr · #2 03-11-2008, 03:42 PM

Try Bashaw Sports at 372-4440

LuckySeven · #3 03-11-2008, 09:12 PM

I just bought the last 8lb in Calgary....2 weeks ago.
Always seems to sell out just before spring....Hmmmmmmmm, I wonder why that is ???? OH ya !!! GOPHERS !!!

Not to sure on the 1lbs though..........

ABwhitetail · #4 03-12-2008, 10:23 AM

Ya, I am in Edmonton.....and it seems everyone around here is all out.....

sdeviation · #5 03-12-2008, 12:59 PM

I got sum if u need it asap ,,i wont be using it in the near future,,,
the 416 is parked and the 22-250 likes imr 4064

Bulletproof · #6 03-13-2008, 10:25 AM

switch to reloader 15, get some more speed and better groups...

ABwhitetail · #7 03-13-2008, 10:36 AM

what is the R15 pushin' ?

ABwhitetail · #8 03-13-2008, 10:38 AM

Oh, By the way, Thanks to everyone who has offered to help out in regard to sharing their current holdings of Varget......

MUCHLY APPRECIATED!!!!

Copidosoma · #9 03-13-2008, 11:16 AM

Never chronographed my loads but...

I found that IN MY RIFLE Varget gave me some significant pressure signs (sticky bolt lift and extractor mark) when I tried a max load. RL 15 hasn't so far. The max for RL15 is 1 grain lower but according to the load data it should be producing similar velocities at max.

I also found that my rifle liked it more from an accuracy point of view. Significantly more.

Definitely worth a look.

ABwhitetail · #10 03-13-2008, 12:18 PM

I have to say....I have experienced the same with Varget.....I am definitely going to try out some R15....

Maybe I will get lucky and some will be floating around the local shops....

I'm going to check RIGHT NOW

catnthehat · #11 03-13-2008, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copidosoma

Never chronographed my loads but...

I found that IN MY RIFLE Varget gave me some significant pressure signs (sticky bolt lift and extractor mark) when I tried a max load. RL 15 hasn't so far. The max for RL15 is 1 grain lower but according to the load data it should be producing similar velocities at max.

I also found that my rifle liked it more from an accuracy point of view. Significantly more.

Definitely worth a look.

here's the deal for those not in the know with Varget ( and any other powder for that matter.)
Max load from manuals is exactly that - manuals.
the only way to test for a max load is with velocity ( chronographing) and measureing cases, because every chamber is different and every powder is different, or with a strain guage or other measueing device.

because the max load for a given pwder is in a book , doesn't mean that that powder will not develop a higher velocity with less powder with a particular firearm.
Only a chronograph will prove this out.
You may find that your max powder charge is in fact developing high pressures , but also very high velocity.
it may well be that changing a powder will result in less pressure signs, but it may well be way below top velocity with the other powdwer it a grain or two i backed off.
cat

ABwhitetail · #12 03-13-2008, 03:56 PM

In my case...With VArget my 7mm-08 showed high pressure signs at 42.5 gr - below the "max" that the Hodgdon Website indicated (43.5 gr)....which surprised me..... because .5 grains under that (42 gr)....SMOOTH SAILING....

Now I purchased some RL15 this afternoon....will load tonight and hit the range tomorrow....but I am having some difficulty finding some good data on the Internet in terms of where to start....

The Alliant website only gives 1 recipe of 43gr.....not sure how much lower I should start from there....I am assuming that the 43 isn't the max either....

I guess I really should purchase a chrony....

catnthehat · #13 03-13-2008, 04:45 PM

An update on your load development findings would be greatly appreciated by all here, i am sure!

I have some data at home IIRC, i'll look and PM you with it.
Cat

Bulletproof · #14 03-13-2008, 05:56 PM

I was pushing 140s with about 42-42.5 grains of R15 for good groups and speed. Varget was about the same with speed but never gave me as consistent groups.

for 140s the best groups i got were with 4064 but got pressure signs way before book max. so i never did get the velocity.

but my new favorite is the speer 130 flat based bullet with r15. Havent tried any other yet but this bullet was made for the 7-08. good groups and speed.

Brett