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01-03-2016, 12:02 PM
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anyone ever make their own rye?
doubt if I'll get a positive outcome from this but jus wondering?
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01-03-2016, 12:04 PM
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Not many are willing to discuss that on an open forum, that is well known to be monitored by authorities.
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01-03-2016, 12:46 PM
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Does swish count!
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01-03-2016, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 3blade
Not many are willing to discuss that on an open forum, that is well known to be monitored by authorities.
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wait, making spirits is illegal in alberta?
i've just asked the google machine, and it doesnt say anything.
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01-03-2016, 07:43 PM
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If you can make your own beer/wine I dont know why you could not make your own Rye/Rum/Vodka etc so long as you dont sell it without a business licence which also applies to beer/wine.
Last September I splurged on a Grainfather all in one brew system and one of the upgrades offered is an elembic copper dome used for distilling.If you bought a Grainfather and opted for the distilling attachment you could make both beer and hard spirits with it.I never bothered as I dont like hard alchohol.
To the OP if you are interested in making your own single malt scotch or perhaps some vodka and also want to take up home brewing the Grainfather is the unit you want.
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01-03-2016, 07:58 PM
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Distilling is illegal in Alberta. Homebrew and wine is fine.
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01-03-2016, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by From The Hip
If you can make your own beer/wine I dont know why you could not make your own Rye/Rum/Vodka etc so long as you dont sell it without a business licence which also applies to beer/wine.
Last September I splurged on a Grainfather all in one brew system and one of the upgrades offered is an elembic copper dome used for distilling.If you bought a Grainfather and opted for the distilling attachment you could make both beer and hard spirits with it.I never bothered as I dont like hard alchohol.
To the OP if you are interested in making your own single malt scotch or perhaps some vodka and also want to take up home brewing the Grainfather is the unit you want.
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Distilling definitely illegal with significant penalties if caught.
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01-03-2016, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nelsonob1
Distilling definitely illegal with significant penalties if caught.
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Ha I thought as much,, it's so easy to do,,,,a pressure cooker in you kitchen and your good to go,,, not like it's a grow op,, sooo sad
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01-03-2016, 10:41 PM
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Can anyone post a link to the law on distilling,
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01-03-2016, 10:45 PM
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I do not have the link but they apply a degrader to grain ethanol to render it poisonous to the average whisky consumer, otherwise every trucker hauling the stuff would get rich as a sideline...Lol
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01-03-2016, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ctd
Can anyone post a link to the law on distilling,
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Gaming and Liquor Act. Section 86, Paragraph 2
Adults
86(1) An adult may make, in the adult’s residence, wine, cider and
beer up to a quantity permitted under the regulations.
(2) No adult may make spirits except in accordance with a licence.
(3) An adult may import into Alberta liquor of a kind and up to a
quantity that is permitted under the regulations.
(4) An adult may purchase liquor from a licensee or as otherwise
authorized by the regulations.
(5) An adult may possess liquor lawfully made, purchased,
imported or received as a gift, and
(a) store it in a residence, temporary residence or other place
authorized by this Act, and
(b) use and consume it in a residence, temporary residence or
other place authorized by this Act.
www.aglc.ca/pdf/legislation/gla_act.pdf
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01-04-2016, 04:45 PM
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its a shame! LOL
When I was a young guy, my cousin worked at the distillers on Ogden road, we used to be able to purchase the old oak barrels that were no longer up to their standard. We would fill them up about 1/4 full and roll them every few days after a month or so we would pour it into bottles made about a dozen or so. We were later told the government stopped allowing them to sell them without cutting them open so they can not be made into home made brew. They were told at that time it was because it is illegal to sell untaxed liquor. OH the good ole days!
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01-04-2016, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by javlin101
Does swish count!
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Ya swish, nothing smoother.
To bad we can't get a hold of the barrels any more.
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01-04-2016, 05:41 PM
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01-04-2016, 05:48 PM
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In my neck of the woods no one will bother you as long as you aren't selling the product and don't cause any trouble (explosion, etc).
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01-04-2016, 05:56 PM
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Made tons of swish in my younger days, ahhhh sweet nectar of the gods and prairie oysters at may long weekend brandings....
Come to think of it, darn near drown in the dugout when us boys sunk the canoe...
Cant believe a fella never got wood alcohol poisoning..LOL...
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01-04-2016, 07:30 PM
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That is Federal.
The Gaming and Liquor Act is the provincial act (actual law) that specifically prohibits distilling in the home or an unlicensed location within Alberta.
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01-04-2016, 07:59 PM
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Buddy of mine made bad batch. Lost every hair on his body at 17. Looked like kojak at grad. Say to me just bring sugar. Those were good times.
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01-04-2016, 08:02 PM
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Be careful, there's a big difference in Canadian federal recognition on what the Canadian law sees a distillery compared to the Gaming and Liquor Act here in Alberta.
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01-04-2016, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Hat in the Cat
Gaming and Liquor Act. Section 86, Paragraph 2
Adults
86(1) An adult may make, in the adult’s residence, wine, cider and
beer up to a quantity permitted under the regulations.
(2) No adult may make spirits except in accordance with a licence.
(3) An adult may import into Alberta liquor of a kind and up to a
quantity that is permitted under the regulations.
(4) An adult may purchase liquor from a licensee or as otherwise
authorized by the regulations.
(5) An adult may possess liquor lawfully made, purchased,
imported or received as a gift, and
(a) store it in a residence, temporary residence or other place
authorized by this Act, and
(b) use and consume it in a residence, temporary residence or
other place authorized by this Act.
www.aglc.ca/pdf/legislation/gla_act.pdf
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Right so, the OP's question should be revised to "anyone's kids ever make rye?"
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01-05-2016, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by chuck-the-chimp
Right so, the OP's question should be revised to "anyone's kids ever make rye?"
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Gaming and Liquor Act. Section 87, Paragraph 1 (b)(c)
Minors
87
(1) Subject to subsection (3) and section 88, no minor may
(a) purchase or attempt to purchase liquor;
(b) obtain or attempt to obtain liquor;
(c) possess or consume liquor.
(2) Subject to subsection (3) and section 88, no person may sell,
attempt to sell or give liquor to a minor.
(3) An adult who is the parent, guardian or spouse or adult
interdependent partner of a minor and who is in lawful possession
of liquor may give the liquor to a minor in a residence or a
temporary residence.
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01-05-2016, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Hat in the Cat
Gaming and Liquor Act. Section 87, Paragraph 1 (b)(c)
Minors
87
(1) Subject to subsection (3) and section 88, no minor may
(a) purchase or attempt to purchase liquor;
(b) obtain or attempt to obtain liquor;
(c) possess or consume liquor.
(2) Subject to subsection (3) and section 88, no person may sell,
attempt to sell or give liquor to a minor.
(3) An adult who is the parent, guardian or spouse or adult
interdependent partner of a minor and who is in lawful possession
of liquor may give the liquor to a minor in a residence or a
temporary residence.
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So tell the minors how to set up the still, and run it, but have an adult handle the product. The adult didn't make the spirits, and the minors never possessed the spirits.
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01-05-2016, 01:43 PM
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So tell the minors how to set up the still, and run it, but have an adult handle the product. The adult didn't make the spirits, and the minors never possessed the spirits.
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I think that also says that if they make it, but i own it, i can give it to my kids and they can sell it. Talk about a mortgage helper!
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01-05-2016, 01:46 PM
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Lots of other places to find out about this type of venture on the inter webs. It's well known that and spoke about that as long as you are not trying to make a bunch of cash doing it most law men won't bother you. It's still not legal but isn't enforced to often unless you are taking from the man which is untaxed liquor.
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01-05-2016, 03:08 PM
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Just don't blow yourself up. High heat and gas expansion without properly designed outlet = BOOM
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01-06-2016, 01:41 PM
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I just had a buddy of mine looking into this - for Vodka I believe....
He's in Edmonton and says that Brewsforless sells the everything you need to make vodka rye whiskey etc, except the distiller. But I think a beer brewer can easily be converted? Or just buy that equipment off the web and you can pick up the yeasts ect at your local brew/wine shop. He told me Winning Wines also sells the yeasts and such! Good luck and be safe.
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01-06-2016, 01:49 PM
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Fairly comprehensive, to say the least!!!!
http://www.meatsandsausages.com/alcohol
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Originally Posted by Meltdowndan
I just had a buddy of mine looking into this - for Vodka I believe....
He's in Edmonton and says that Brewsforless sells the everything you need to make vodka rye whiskey etc, except the distiller. But I think a beer brewer can easily be converted? Or just buy that equipment off the web and you can pick up the yeasts ect at your local brew/wine shop. He told me Winning Wines also sells the yeasts and such! Good luck and be safe.
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My Grampa in Fairview made Moon Shine & cut it with Volka. He had a few locals buy off him and RCMP left him alone until the Alberta Liquor Store opened up.
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01-06-2016, 02:13 PM
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Here is a fun fact. Fruits that contain pectin will create methanol when used in a mash. Methanol should be avoided and removed during the distilling process. Since we dont have the option of distilling here is really is not relative information.
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