See through scope mounts.

firegod74 · #1 12-27-2010, 11:25 PM

Does anybody use them? I got a Browning BLR at Christmas and it comes with open sights. I grew up with open sights and in some cases (like heavy brush) I would prefer them over a scope.
A friend said that it raises the scope too high so that you aren't properly resting against the cheek piece when you look through the scope.
I was hoping to use the see through mounts so that I could have the best of both worlds, but not at the expense of accuracy with the scope.

vcmm · #2 12-28-2010, 12:04 AM

I use them on my 22mag they work fine for it but I wouldn't on a centerfire rifle.
vcmm

Headdamage · #3 12-28-2010, 01:40 AM

I have a 1-4x Leupold on my BLR, it is mounted as low as I can get it and on 1x I can see the front sight through it.

Dick284 · #4 12-28-2010, 03:45 AM

Cheek weld vs. chin weld, does that say enough?

Chet · #5 12-28-2010, 09:50 AM

I agree with Dick284's comment. Way too high of rings for me.
I would consider one of the detachable scope mount sytems if you really want to be able to use your open sights occasionally. Warne, Talley and a few others make some good systems that return to zero fairly well when the scope is remounted. Try setting the bases on your gun and see if they are low profile enough to still use your open sights when the scope is removed. If you go with that system test them out at the range and see how well it returns to zero after re-attaching your scope.

simplify · #6 12-28-2010, 09:58 AM

i have see through mounts on my 30-06 since i got it. Only used the open sights a few times, usually when i forget my scope covers, see thought mounts are great at that time. I dont find it affects my rest, but every one is different.
For bush walking I use a shorter barrel, 30-30 which only has open sights.

srp71 · #7 12-28-2010, 10:44 AM

I put a set on my muzzy when i got it.They came off pretty quick.it was very hard for me to get a good site picture with them,plus the added height of the scope.It was very uncomfortable for me and was definately not the answer,for me anyway's.

catnthehat · #8 12-28-2010, 02:04 PM

Don't even consider them - they don't even make good paperweights!
Cat

grinr · #9 12-28-2010, 07:02 PM

I've had see-throughs on several rifles including a BLR,Rem 7600,Win 100,Savage 99 etc....no problem with "cheek weld" or accuracy if you can shoot to begin with?as posted previously,might be the diff between chin or cheek weld?Might take some getting used to if all you've ever known is low mounted scopes...who knows?You won't regret them on a rainy,foggy,or snowy day when the buck of a lifetime steps out and your scope is all fogged up and useless,that's fer sher.Also,they make mounting and "bore sighting" a breeze when installing a new scope.Adjust x-hairs to same POI as iron sights at home and your on the paper,often within a couple inches of the bull when you get to the range.Personally,I like'em and have no issues,and the iron sights are great insurance if you hunt in alot of bad weather.Purist,elitist,rifle snobs might scoff at'em,but I'm tagging dirty day bucks while they make excuses for fogged scopes.

catnthehat · #10 12-28-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by grinr

I've had see-throughs on several rifles including a BLR,Rem 7600,Win 100,Savage 99 etc....no problem with "cheek weld" or accuracy if you can shoot to begin with?as posted previously,might be the diff between chin or cheek weld?Might take some getting used to if all you've ever known is low mounted scopes...who knows?You won't regret them on a rainy,foggy,or snowy day when the buck of a lifetime steps out and your scope is all fogged up and useless,that's fer sher.Also,they make mounting and "bore sighting" a breeze when installing a new scope.Adjust x-hairs to same POI as iron sights at home and your on the paper,often within a couple inches of the bull when you get to the range.Personally,I like'em and have no issues,and the iron sights are great insurance if you hunt in alot of bad weather.Purist,elitist,rifle snobs might scoff at'em,but I'm tagging dirty day bucks while they make excuses for fogged scopes.

I maybe should have explained why I detest those rings.
I'm not an elitist, a purist, or a rifle snob.
What I have seen is those things break, and when I hunt with a scope it's a scope that is good enough not to fog up or cloud with solid rings.
When I hunt with irons i hunt with irons.
I don't swap one for the other on the same rifle - although one of my rifles is so equipped.
As well,many rifles have a drop at comb that does not facilitate high rifmgs like see throughs.
I also hunt in some of the worst conditions imaginable , you are not the only one to be able to do that.
Cat

MK2750 · #11 12-28-2010, 09:07 PM

Had a set on my 7600 for years and really liked them. Bought a set of Leupold base/rings mainly because of this kind of talk. Went to the range, came home from the range, took off the Leupys and gave them to Dave Henry for his collection. I never realized how hard that 06 could kick until I got my check hard on that stock.

Most of my deer have been shot and I truly learned how to shoot with a Parker Hale 303 with the Parker Hale mounts/rings that are quite high. When I throw a rifle to my shoulder this is where my eye goes every time.

I had to replace the rings on my 7x57 as well as I was a couple seconds finding the scope when I threw it up. I didn't put on see through as it has no sights but they are higher than most would like. It will shoot 1/2 inch groups all day with factory ammo so I don't think accuracy is an issue.

I really liked being able to check my zero with the irons. I did infact take a nice buck with the irons one day when the scope was snowed up due to my carelessness.

If you like them go for it - what works for you is more important than what someone tells you should be using.

firegod74 · #12 12-28-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chet

I agree with Dick284's comment. Way too high of rings for me.
I would consider one of the detachable scope mount sytems if you really want to be able to use your open sights occasionally. Warne, Talley and a few others make some good systems that return to zero fairly well when the scope is remounted. Try setting the bases on your gun and see if they are low profile enough to still use your open sights when the scope is removed. If you go with that system test them out at the range and see how well it returns to zero after re-attaching your scope.

After reading the responses I am kinda leaning this way (detachable). Or I guess I can get off the fence and just use the British when I know the bush will be thick.