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05-31-2012, 07:16 PM
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Non-Resident (Irish) Hunter
Hey, Am new to Calgary/Canada arrived here from Ireland in March on a two year work visa. I'm an avid deer hunter back home and can't wait to get back into the outdoors over here. I know I've got to get a firearms cert and possibly sit a hunter education program, does anyone know of or can give me a heads up of anything else? I seen somewhere online that only Albertan residents can hunt without a guide, is this the case? Any info would be much appreciated guys!
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05-31-2012, 07:51 PM
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PAL to buy guns
WIN # to buy lic & tags
if ur living here with a AB driver lic, then i think ur a res
do the pal course or test asap, you don't get them over night
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05-31-2012, 08:26 PM
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PAL to buy guns
WIN # to buy lic & tags
if ur living here with a AB driver lic, then i think ur a res
do the pal course or test asap, you don't get them over night
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you also need to take a hunters education course to LEGALLY buy your tags
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05-31-2012, 08:37 PM
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if ur living here with a AB driver lic, then i think ur a res
do the pal course or test asap, you don't get them over night
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It's not that simple.
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Resident - a person who either
* has his or her only or primary residence in Alberta and
1. is a Canadian citizen or is admitted to permanent residence in Canada, or
2. has lived in Canada for the 12-month period immediately preceding the relevant date; or
* is on full-time service with the Armed Forces of Canada and would, if an election were held under the Elections Act (Canada), be eligible to vote in Alberta under that Act.
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05-31-2012, 08:42 PM
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It's not that simple.
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I was trying to give him a starting point, witch I did
If your not a res, you can get a friend or a coworker to hunter host you also
Am I wrong ?
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05-31-2012, 08:47 PM
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This year he can hunt with a hunter host.
After 12 months he can get his license to hunt here.
Since he has stated that he has hunted deer in Ireland, he has likely been licensed perviously. Certainly requires firearms proficiency there.
If so, he is NOT a first time hunter, so no hunter ed. is required.
Not a great idea though, given the differences in hunting.
Head here to read it for yourself.
http://albertaregulations.ca/hunting...finitions.html
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05-31-2012, 08:48 PM
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Your statement as to what qualifies you as a resident was.
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05-31-2012, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Your statement as to what qualifies you as a resident was.
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I forgot to add a question mark on that statement ,
Should have been a question,
The "am I wrong " was for the hosting
But thanks for pointing that out Elk , good job
Next time your in Red Deer I got a hero cookie for ya
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05-31-2012, 08:58 PM
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The "am I wrong " was for the hosting
But thanks for pointing that out Elk , good job
Next time your in Red Deer I got a hero cookie for ya
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If you resent your statements being corrected so much, then make sure that they are correct before posting them. The OP deserves to know what the regulations are, rather than let you mislead him with false assumptions.
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05-31-2012, 09:07 PM
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Gone Hunting
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This season you could hunt with hunter host as non resident allien.
As you hunted before you don't need Hunters Ed to get WIN card.
You don't need PAL gun permit if you will hunt with Host using his gun under his direct supervision.
Looks like after 12 m in Alberta you would be considered resident and you would have to apply for PAL to be able to hunt by yourself with your own gun or could borrow rifle from hunting buddy and hunt under his direct supervision without PAL licence.
Good lack
Andrew
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05-31-2012, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
If you resent your statements being corrected so much, then make sure that they are correct before posting them. The OP deserves to know what the regulations are, rather than let you mislead him with false assumptions.
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Oh so sorry there Elky, but on my phone, with a little screen,
I will proof read everything from now on just for you
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05-31-2012, 09:20 PM
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Actually he will have to take hunters Ed course since he has not held a license in Alberta or Canada.
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05-31-2012, 09:31 PM
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Oh so sorry there Elky, but on my phone, with a little screen,
I will proof read everything from now on just for you
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If your pride is so easily hurt, perhaps you should just stick to posting what you know to be fact. I am not going to see someone get led astray by false statements, just to avoid bruising your overly sensitive ego.
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05-31-2012, 09:43 PM
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welcome
Dan, welcome to the forum, and to the greatest country in the world ........
As an ex-pat from Belfast, I will send you a PM with my contact info and we can have a chat sometime.
LW
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05-31-2012, 09:43 PM
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My pride is not hurt, I just thought you came across as being pretentious, as I find you offen do!
This is getting very off typic ...
I wish you luck Dan, there's lots of big deer in Alberta
I hope you fill a tag
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05-31-2012, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy78
Actually he will have to take hunters Ed course since he has not held a license in Alberta or Canada.
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Where do I find that info? I have someone in the same position as the OP and would like to get the definitive answer.
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05-31-2012, 09:56 PM
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Gone Hunting
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Licensing requirements for first-time hunters
A first-time hunter is a hunter who 1) has not previously held a hunting licence in Alberta or elsewhere, or...
So the WIN number and card are not a problem. You can get a win number.
Now you can buy a general white-tail deer licence and a supplemental antler-less white-tail deer licence (for shooting a doe or two).
Now you need an alberta resident to name you on a hunter host licence. Do you know any hunters in Calgary? If you borrow a gun from your hunter host and he is "supervising you" you do not need a PAL at this time (I would take the course and start applying for one as soon as possible)
IS THERE anyone out there who will befriend this fellow and take him deer hunting?
If you find a mentor there who will help you out good luck to both of you.
If you don't get lined up with someone soon and you don't mind traveling to Rocky Mountain House area, shoot me a PM and I can arrange to take you out to some of my tried and true deer spots.
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05-31-2012, 10:00 PM
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Where do I find that info? I have someone in the same position as the OP and would like to get the definitive answer.
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http://albertaregulations.ca/hunting...encecosts.html
From that link
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What is required to be eligible to hunt in Alberta?
Hunters in Alberta should be aware of federal regulations pertaining to possession and use of firearms (click here to view Federal Firearms Legislation), and provincial regulations pertaining to licensing of hunters. There are regulations that pertain to first-time hunters, youths, residents, non-residents and non-resident aliens.
All hunters must have a Wildlife Identification Number (WIN) as a prerequisite to applying for, or purchasing any hunting licence, but some additional requirements must be met for the WIN-holder to be eligible to purchase hunting licences.
A person must possess a valid Wildlife Certificate and the applicable hunting licence in order to hunt big game or game birds. The hunter must carry the licence and applicable tag(s) on his or her person while hunting. A person applying for a draw is not required to possess a Wildlife Certificate but must purchase one before purchasing any hunting licence.
Licensing requirements for first-time hunters
A first-time hunter is a hunter who 1) has not previously held a hunting licence in Alberta or elsewhere, or 2) has not prior to April 1, 2010, met Alberta first-time hunter criteria, or 3) has not successfully completed a hunter education course in Alberta or elsewhere.
Notice: As of 2010, the Alberta Hunter Competency Exam is no longer offered. Subject to any exceptions noted in this guide, first-time hunters (adult and youth) must successfully complete the Alberta Conservation and Hunter Education course.
Non-resident and non-resident alien hunters (12 years of age or older) are exempt from the first-time hunter eligibility requirement if they are accompanied by a Hunter Host or a Designated Guide while hunting in Alberta.
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Actually he will have to take hunters Ed course since he has not held a license in Alberta or Canada.
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The regulations do not specify Alberta or Canada. The word elsewhere seems to be the key.
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Licensing requirements for first-time hunters
A first-time hunter is a hunter who 1) has not previously held a hunting licence in Alberta or elsewhere, or 2) has not prior to April 1, 2010, met Alberta first-time hunter criteria, or 3) has not successfully completed a hunter education course in Alberta or elsewhere.
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06-01-2012, 08:25 AM
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Non-Resident (Irish) Hunter
Hey guys, thanks for the help, now that I've read through all the posts, I notice that the regs state that you are not a first time hunter if youve held a hunting licence elsewhere which I have, and also I don't think ive got to sit a hunters ed course as I done one a few years back in Colrado; Correct me if I'm wrong anyone but I think I can just buy a WIN ticket??
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06-01-2012, 08:34 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong anyone but I think I can just buy a WIN ticket??
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It appears that based on you having held a hunting license elsewhere,you can purchase a WIN card without having to complete a hunter education course, but you won't qualify to be a resident this fall.
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06-01-2012, 08:42 AM
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Finally! Just direct him to the regs. Half the posters here have no idea what the rules are and are simply guessing.
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06-01-2012, 01:15 PM
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Dan, when you get everything setup, give bowhunting a try.... Rifle is fine and all, but bowhunting is where the real fun begins....
I do both and find bowhunting ties up more time, but easily well worth the effort put in.
Plus, if you're having problems attaining the legal rifle end of life, but are still able to get a WIN card/hunting tags, you don't need anything else to bowhunt other than a bowhunting permit (last fall cost was around $8, and no prerequisite testing/course - just practice)
J.
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