Gun room

[sacan]

I was wondering if anyone can lead me in the direction of someone that can fabricate a secure gun room in the Edmonton area. A welder that does custom work potentially? I want it to be steel. Thanks in advance.

[Dick284]

You best be checking if your municipal government will require you to take out a building permit, and depending on where in your house you intend on building your steel room, they could demand, and perhaps you should hire an engineer to design the supporting structure.(steel is heavy).

Think this through.... it’s a money pit and a nightmare in the making.

Where you could build a room in your barement without Windows, with metal shelving attached to the walls or rebar run through the studs, on the outer walls, and a reinforced door, with blind hinges, with a lattice of rebar added to the ceiling joists.

This way you aren’t hiring a contractor who could run his mouth, and if the room isn’t anything out of the ordinary it might not require a building permit, thus keeping your intention to build it out of the public eye, which is of higher importance than steel walls.(stay off everyone’s radar)

Declaring a specific gun room to anyone be it the municipality or using a contractor is not some of your better design features.

[Au revoir, Gopher]

Originally Posted by Dick284

Where you could build a room in your barement without Windows, with metal shelving attached to the walls or rebar run through the studs, on the outer walls, and a reinforced door, with blind hinges, with a lattice of rebar added to the ceiling joists.

Chain link fence under the drywall is another way to secure a room. All depends on how much you want to slow them down, 'cause you're not stopping them.

ARG

[Newview01]

Banks use a metal grid that is lightweight but made out of hardened steel for rooms that need to be secure, but don’t need to be a vault. I don’t think it is very expensive either.

Build your own gun room.

[Dick284]

Originally Posted by Newview01

Banks use a metal grid that is lightweight but made out of hardened steel for rooms that need to be secure, but don’t need to be a vault. I don’t think it is very expensive either.

Build your own gun room.

I put up steel shelving on the walls exposed to other spaces in the house, and my loading bench is on part of the other wall. All those features are screwed to the wall studs. It’d be one heck of a tough time to get through those items from the outside. Making it Passive and effective.

At the end of the day, a cell phone security system, and the inabilility to have your movements patterned, coupled with security measures in depth, are likely as effective or better than a steel structure.

If the bad guys are intent on taking your stuff very little can really be done. Look at the Hargreaves incident a dozen or so years ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/...nsafe_storage/

[Gramps.257]

Heavy gauge steel studs 8 inches on center with a layer of 3/4 plywood on each side then use 3/4 inch security screen screwed to the plywood covered with 2 layers of 5/8 drywall and finished to paint. Door is a heavy steel firerated and well pinned with double dead bolts.Along with a good security system, Was good enough for the CFO to approve 2 years ago. Cost me about the same a a good gun vault including permits.

[Selkirk]

Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher

Chain link fence under the drywall is another way to secure a room. All depends on how much you want to slow them down, 'cause you're not stopping them.

ARG

That's ^ true about not stopping them if they 'really' want in, but the harder you make it for them to get in, the more likely they will go somewhere else where its much easier to get in.

If it's done right, 'Prevention' and 'Deterrence' work together.

Selkirk

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher

Chain link fence under the drywall is another way to secure a room. All depends on how much you want to slow them down, 'cause you're not stopping them.

ARG

Of course you can stop them, if you want to, most people just don't take it that far.

[mmhmmmm]

I was under the impression a locking door was all that is required in terms of legality? With racks then bolted to structure of room?! I see why you would want high security as discussed in this thread but it is not legally required from what I have learned? Am I totally off!?


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[Jeron Kahyar]

Nice detailed instructions to make a secure room can be found here:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/physec-sec...1-eng.html#6.2

[Dick284]

Originally Posted by Jeron Kahyar

Nice detailed instructions to make a secure room can be found here:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/physec-sec...1-eng.html#6.2

This has nothing to do with firearms storage!

[Jeron Kahyar]

Originally Posted by Dick284

This has nothing to do with firearms storage!

And everything to do with building a secure room. A secure room can store many things, possibly including firearms (if one so desired).

Thanks for pointing out that it nowere specifically mentions firearms (I'm sure it was useful to someone).

[catnthehat]

when we bought our place, I was told that one of the roughed in bedrooms
downstairs was mine for a gun/loading room.
Walk in closet became the vault , double deadbolts on both doors, security bars, and a separate alarm system from the rest of the house- it's all good!
Cat