AB Election

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

You shoot for the stars, hope the best for you and yours.

Politics and religion sure gets people all fired up.

Now I gotta get back to that dam dirty floor and float around a lake or two.

Sucks when the shoe fits, eh…

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by gman1978

Ok let’s start with gun control and carbon tax!

And throw in our oil and gas industry, and unionizing family farms.

[pikergolf]

Left vs right. Government reliance vs self reliance. What can the government do for me vs I wish the government would get out of the way. We need to coddle the weak vs we need to equip the weak to look after themselves. If one really wants to see what relying on others looks like a few generations in just look at todays youth. So afraid, so reliant, so needy. Not their fault but the parents who relied on the "experts" for advice on raising them. We need to get back to relying on ourselves and teaching our children to rely on themselves. The government is not your friend, your mom or your dad, and they certainly do not care for you as an individual. Good times create weak people has never been so evident.

And yes I understand this is a sweeping generalization but it does reflect most of our society.

[CanuckShooter]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

If the NDP wins the election, Alberta loses.

That's what I'm thinking, IF the ndp liberal lite's win Alberta well then trudeau might actually have a chance of staying in office......and that scares the hell out of me.

[skidderman]

Originally Posted by roper1

Truly amazed that voters think the NDP offers anything!! Certainly Prentice et al, needed a reset. The Conservatives were in power so long they weren't listening. I'm also amazed at Danielle's ability to insert both feet past her molars. WTH? Anyhow, a UCP majority by one seat will probably give us the best governance possible.

Well said

[ram crazy]

Originally Posted by pittman

Lots of opinions here but not much content.

How about we compare the actual platforms between our two girls so folks here can make an educated decision?

Blindly standing behind one party or another based on perceived ideologies isn't really an educated choice.

Ok, Smith is willing to put it in writing to not raise taxes. How is she going to do that you ask. With a strong economy and using our natural resources. Now Nutley she just says she won’t raise our taxes. Now how she she going to do that you ask. Is there any money left in the Heritage Trust Fund after the last time she was in power? I think it will be impossible for her to not raise taxes as she doesn’t like using our natural resources (not even remotely putting up a fight for the pipeline when she was in power). How many companies will pull out of Alberta if the NDP get into power? How many doctors will pullout of Alberta? One last question is Phillips out of rehab yet?

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by pittman

Lots of opinions here but not much content.

How about we compare the actual platforms between our two girls so folks here can make an educated decision?

Blindly standing behind one party or another based on perceived ideologies isn't really an educated choice.

The NDPs past proposal for the bighorn is a huge negative for me if they choose to push the idea again for starters

The NDP support the carbon tax. I am opposed in taxation to collect funds from the public in attempt to make things unaffordable without creating a viable alternative

I also have seen nothing but Notley talk crap against opposition instead of actually offering an alternative solution to the problem. Yes you hear they will provide funding for different sectors but no real plan for these funds. Oddly the UCP is also is planning on increasing funding to theses sectors but they actually mention at least some direction on where the funding is going

Really both parties are running on promises of improving healthcare and education. Funny thing is often the UCP is offering a higher increase to these sectors than the NDP. So neither party is ignoring theses issues and plan to increase funding but one just wants to throw money at the system well the other is looking at changing how theses services operate well increasing funding. Personally I support the vision of improving how theses sectors operate well increasing funds vs just throwing money at a failing system

There are things I don’t like about either party but for my personal life and values the UCP is the better option. I have plenty of experience living under both parties from jumping between Alberta and B.C. since I was 18 and have a good idea what to expect from either one

I could continue with more reasons why I will make my choice and I am not doing so blindly but you are so firmly stuck on your views it’s not worth typing

Vote for whoever fits your values, lifestyle, and personal needs that is what I am doing

[cody j]

If you love Trudeau, you love Jugmeat and you love the direction Canada is heading, you will love Notley

[59whiskers]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Left vs right. Government reliance vs self reliance. What can the government do for me vs I wish the government would get out of the way. We need to coddle the weak vs we need to equip the weak to look after themselves. If one really wants to see what relying on others looks like a few generations in just look at todays youth. So afraid, so reliant, so needy. Not their fault but the parents who relied on the "experts" for advice on raising them. We need to get back to relying on ourselves and teaching our children to rely on themselves. The government is not your friend, your mom or your dad, and they certainly do not care for you as an individual. Good times create weak people has never been so evident.

And yes I understand this is a sweeping generalization but it does reflect most of our society.

X2

[6.5 shooter]

Personally, I can think of 82 BILLION reasons not to vote NDP plus TWO big reasons in Ottawa.

PS: just to put 82 billion dollars in perspective, that is 82 TOP of the line new hospitals. Most people have no idea how much the Nutley shut down the provinces fossil fuel industry rhetoric is actually going to cost.

But then again some don't care, they are to busy riding the selfish train, or is it kayak?

[theoldguy]

Originally Posted by -JR-

I walked into the Physiotherapy last month to find out that we do not get 3 free visits anymore threw health care .....Thanks You Danielle smith ( United Conservatives )

That’s not the situation here. My wife just had 3 and probably will get 1 more. Free!

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by crazy_davey

Sucks when the shoe fits, eh…

good thing about shoes is they come in all sizes keeping things interesting and not one size fits all.


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[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

The NDPs past proposal for the bighorn is a huge negative for me if they choose to push the idea again for starters

The NDP support the carbon tax. I am opposed in taxation to collect funds from the public in attempt to make things unaffordable without creating a viable alternative

I also have seen nothing but Notley talk crap against opposition instead of actually offering an alternative solution to the problem. Yes you hear they will provide funding for different sectors but no real plan for these funds. Oddly the UCP is also is planning on increasing funding to theses sectors but they actually mention at least some direction on where the funding is going

Really both parties are running on promises of improving healthcare and education. Funny thing is often the UCP is offering a higher increase to these sectors than the NDP. So neither party is ignoring theses issues and plan to increase funding but one just wants to throw money at the system well the other is looking at changing how theses services operate well increasing funding. Personally I support the vision of improving how theses sectors operate well increasing funds vs just throwing money at a failing system

There are things I don’t like about either party but for my personal life and values the UCP is the better option. I have plenty of experience living under both parties from jumping between Alberta and B.C. since I was 18 and have a good idea what to expect from either one

I could continue with more reasons why I will make my choice and I am not doing so blindly but you are so firmly stuck on your views it’s not worth typing

Vote for whoever fits your values, lifestyle, and personal needs that is what I am doing

Well said!


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[The Cook]

The ndp tried and almost succeeded in trying to shut down our local gun and archery club. We now have a 25 year lease in place thanks to ousting our undercover ndp exec.

[AI 6.5]

Originally Posted by cody j

If you love Trudeau, you love Jugmeat and you love the direction Canada is heading, you will love Notley

Based on some of the comments here and in other threads it's painfully obvious that several here must love the Turd and Jugmeat and are quite content in the direction our country is heading. Mind boggling!

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by AI 6.5

Based on the some of the comments here and in other threads it's painfully obvious that several here must love the the Turd and Jugmeat and are quite content in the direction our country is heading. Mind boggling!

Mind boggling to say the least…

[59whiskers]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

And throw in our oil and gas industry, and unionizing family farms.

If the NDP wins they will police small family farms to pay family/friends to do seasonal/occasional work which is out of question for many of these operations. My Son In-laws Family is getting by barely and cheaper labor is in short supply. I am retired and have experience with equipment and a class one. I am happy to help farmers and spend my time on the farm and I don’t need the money. We do not Need the NDP communists running small family businesses into receivership.

[huntinstuff]

Yup

You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.

[AI 6.5]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Yup

You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.

You are right but it appears some here just can't grasp that.

[tirebob]

Just stepping in here with a warning that everyone is allowed their opinion whether you agree or not, but be very careful how you start address each other regarding those opinions if you want to keep threads open and not end up suspended.

[skidderman]

I heard something said some time ago. Not sure the source. He or she said there is no such thing as left and right but rather it is right or wrong, one or the other.

[FishOutOfWater]

I don't understand how anyone here could support any Party other than the UCP ? Stop dwelling on past, worry about what she/they are doing now and not what happened in 2014.

Both the Libtards and the Dippers want to end the O&G industry, and stuff this (completely unfeasible) "Green Energy" down our throats !

Not to mention that they both want to end the very industries this forum represents, shooting & hunting. And they're halfway there FFS !

[raab]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Yup

You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.

I'm not too worried about it. Let's remember that freedom is not just a word for our neighbour, but a way of life. This was never more apparent to me as a cross border trucker then during covid. They won't let this country fall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc


Moving on the sooner people figure out these elections are about what world order you want to live under the better. You either believe in the US led order that was passed down to you and you can preserve for your children. Or you believe in the Chinese led order you got a taste of with the Covid lockdowns.

You can vote for the NDP party that is filled with communists like Anne Macgrath, Rod Loyola, and Rachel Notley or you can vote for the party who fights communists like Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin and gives you the freedom to live the life you want with the UCP.

https://youtu.be/jIUGdL-wAUk

https://youtu.be/tnMyyubGFUE

https://www.timescolonist.com/opinio...in-you-4668809

[pittman]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

The NDPs past proposal for the bighorn is a huge negative for me if they choose to push the idea again for starters

The NDP support the carbon tax. I am opposed in taxation to collect funds from the public in attempt to make things unaffordable without creating a viable alternative

I also have seen nothing but Notley talk crap against opposition instead of actually offering an alternative solution to the problem. Yes you hear they will provide funding for different sectors but no real plan for these funds. Oddly the UCP is also is planning on increasing funding to theses sectors but they actually mention at least some direction on where the funding is going

Really both parties are running on promises of improving healthcare and education. Funny thing is often the UCP is offering a higher increase to these sectors than the NDP. So neither party is ignoring theses issues and plan to increase funding but one just wants to throw money at the system well the other is looking at changing how theses services operate well increasing funding. Personally I support the vision of improving how theses sectors operate well increasing funds vs just throwing money at a failing system

There are things I don’t like about either party but for my personal life and values the UCP is the better option. I have plenty of experience living under both parties from jumping between Alberta and B.C. since I was 18 and have a good idea what to expect from either one

I could continue with more reasons why I will make my choice and I am not doing so blindly but you are so firmly stuck on your views it’s not worth typing

Vote for whoever fits your values, lifestyle, and personal needs that is what I am doing

Pretty sure my post doesn't say anything about my personal political viewpoint. I can say I have noticed many longstanding conservative voters who have great concern with voting for DS given her repeated blundering.

Anyhow, I was looking for some objective data on political spending in AB and found this article - interesting read. I don't know much about the Fraser Institute but they say they are independent and non-partisan.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/site...t-spending.pdf

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by pittman

Pretty sure my post doesn't say anything about my personal political viewpoint. I can say I have noticed many longstanding conservative voters who have great concern with voting for DS given her repeated blundering.

Anyhow, I was looking for some objective data on political spending in AB and found this article - interesting read. I don't know much about the Fraser Institute but they say they are independent and non-partisan.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/site...t-spending.pdf

And as it states, Notley spent more in 2017, than was spent during any covid year. That is saying a lot, considering the extra demands that existed due to covid.

[raab]

"As much as Ms. Notley would like to ink some deals while she's in Beijing (she is also visiting Japan on the trip), she is also there to learn more about how the People's Republic is managing a rather remarkable energy transformation. China has begun to undertake the kind of transition from fossil fuels to clean-energy alternatives that Ms. Notley and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau talk about in a mostly futuristic sense because it is still considered heresy to mention such things in Canada's oil capital."

I wonder where the climate crap is coming from that will handicap North American energy, and give a benefit to you guessed it... China

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...ticle34759813/

[raab]

The Notley/Trudeau alliance sending dollars to dictators while taking food off the table of Albertan families since 2015.

[pittman]

Originally Posted by raab

The Notley/Trudeau alliance sending dollars to dictators while taking food off the table of Albertan families since 2015.

Different than DS giving tax dollars to big corps?

[raab]

Originally Posted by pittman

Different than DS giving tax dollars to big corps?

Is it different then Notley giving tax dollars to her friends? I don't think the party who wants to cut taxes for those making less then $60,000 is the problem. The party wanting to raise taxes on that demographic so they can appoint their university elite friends to government may be. I know it's a radical idea but let's lay off the high priced management friends of the NDP, and put more government service workers on the frontlines to improve our healthcare and education systems.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by pittman

Different than DS giving tax dollars to big corps?

Foreign dictators don't keep many people working in Alberta....not that hard to figure out