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04-09-2023, 02:33 PM
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West Coast king salmon are so depleted officials just canceled the Oregon and California season
West Coast king salmon are so depleted officials just canceled the Oregon and California season
SAN FRANCISCO – Chinook salmon stocks along the West Coast are so low fishery managers have officially canceled both the commercial and most of the recreational fishing season from northern Oregon to the California-Mexico border.
https://news.yahoo.com/regulators-ra...024410322.html
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04-09-2023, 06:28 PM
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Most traditional wild fish we like to eat are in decline across the globe.Commercial fishing is mostly to blame.Other factors include dams,pollution,fish farms,subsistence fishing and lastly sport fishing.
Sad when Cod that was once cheap is now more expensive than the awful farmed salmon most people eat.
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04-09-2023, 08:11 PM
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So close but yet so far from the truth.
Chinooks spend more time at sea than the other Pacific Salmon. However, all Pacific Salmon is impacted by the Virus that the Atlantic Salmon Farms introduced and continues to re introduce with each and every crop of Atlantic Salmon raised.
We once believed that the sea lice on the smolts were the problem, and the sea lice of course were thickest where the Salmon pens were. Which happens to be on the out migration routes from most rivers. Now it seems that the reason for the sea lice may be the salmon smolts were already weak and sick from the virus from the Atlantic Salmon.
In any event, West Coast Salmon fishing is getting hammered by the seals, the sea lice, the virus, and of course from hot rivers with low flow making spawning a real challenge.
Then there are the Sport Fishermen who pick up the tab to try and preserve the runs by paying for the hatcheries with our licence dollars.
We of course are to blame for the problem.
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04-13-2023, 09:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckman
Most traditional wild fish we like to eat are in decline across the globe.Commercial fishing is mostly to blame.Other factors include dams,pollution,fish farms,subsistence fishing and lastly sport fishing.
Sad when Cod that was once cheap is now more expensive than the awful farmed salmon most people eat.
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100%
Commercial is unsustainable.
Money talks,
Fish Jesus out.
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04-13-2023, 02:28 PM
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Any word on Alaska shutting it down as well? Not much point in starting at the end of the runs. Why not start where the problem really is?
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04-13-2023, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GMX
Any word on Alaska shutting it down as well? Not much point in starting at the end of the runs. Why not start where the problem really is?
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Their troll fleet (targeted fishery) was rolled back some last year, and are expecting the same this year as well.
Their by-catch in the pollack fisheries is huge and that sector is fighting more restrictions.
Time will tell...
Cross your fingers!
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04-14-2023, 11:19 AM
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The Alaskan Winter Pollock Fishery has always had ALOT of salmon bycatch. Alaskans simply dumped the dead salmon overboard, many of which were potential spawners that summer.
Regs were changed for the Alaskan commercial boats and they had to retain the Salmon and had to record the same against their allowed Total Allowed Catch (TAC). That effectively reduced the number of Salmon that the Alaskans could catch later in the season.
The problem is that alot of 2 - 3 year Salmon which would be at sea until the following years would not be spawning ever, meaning reduced future returns in following years, but NOT counted against the TAC in future years.
These Pollock boats have huge purse nets and it is not a purse seine set up with dip nets to allow return of live non target fish. The net is brought aboard and everything is killed.
All the same, how about DFO immediately remove the source of the Virus that they have known about since 2012, and end all in ocean Salmon Farming on the Pacific Coast.
It is to the point where small West Coast creeks and rivers no longer have wild salmon returns and without hatchery fish, there would be no salmon returns at all.
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04-14-2023, 11:47 AM
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Toss in development as in towns/cities/subdivisions etc and those rivers and streams that once were are no longer.
I was a young fella in the comox valley back in the 70”s and the streams were full of spawning salmon but now they are no longer but are nice bike paths etc…
So many factors play into the numbers.
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