Lets talk Prostrate

[vinny]

Originally Posted by blacknorthernjk

It's a prostate folks, not a prostrate. No one is taking it lying face down arms stretched out here.

Thank you! That was killing me. I wanted to see how long it would take. Sorry, derail over. Serious subject.

[TrollGRG]

Originally Posted by Trap Shy

What do you guys class as a high psa ? Mine has been 5.8 to 6. 2 for the last 5 years psa is tested every 6 months and a biopsy every year things seem to be good but I am being told in time this will have to be delte with do you agree ??

It is not so much the actual reading as the difference in readings. A change from 1 to 1.5 from test to test is a lot more significant than 4.5 to 5. It will naturally increase as you get older but a significant difference means look closer.

[muzzy]

Ive always been careful with diet exercise and regular check ups. I had no symptoms at all when I had my annual physical a few years back but it was noted that my PSA went from 4.2 to 6,2 in a two year span. Doc also thought the prostate felt slightly abnormal so we both agreed a urologist appt was wise. Turns out I had cancer with 7 of 12 core samples testing positive. I did a lot of research and even checked with several AO members who had already gone thru the prostate cancer journey. I talked with a number of guys I knew who had dealt with it along with of course my urologist. By the way not one person mentioned blood in urine as a symtom and I didnt have it. You see in recent ads that the blood in urine is a sign of bladder cancer so dont be waiting for blood to show up.

There are a number of ways to treat it from cut you wide open and remove it to radiation doses daily for a month to radiated pellets inserted into the prostate to robotic surgery and different provinces offer different options and not others. Luckily Alberta seems to have the most choices. The short term and long term after affects and potential affer affects vary depending and what course of treatment you take. I choose the robotic surgery and it was fantastic. 4 small one inch cuts long sides of abdomen and one 2 inch cut above belly button.
Was out in two days and actually walked mile and half that day and was out bear baiting 10 days later!! Never took any pain killers when I left the hospital and back to normal urinary function in no time. Been totally free of cancer over three years now. As for sexual function don't sweat it ask your urologist about trimix just dont ask how its administered LOL
FYI when I was in hospital there were guys as young as 25 that had prostate cancer and surgery so don't think its only an old man's disease.

[mgvande]

When the time comes I just hope for skinny fingers. Like the dainty fingers of a piano player.

[densa44]

We we get to 90 years we have a 100% chance of prostate cancer. Don't worry our metabolism has slowed down so much by then we will probably die from something else.

I would follow the advice received through scientific medicine. We have seen a number of very sad examples of children being treated by; poultices, herbal teas and spells. Thankfully those practitioners are either in jail or soon will be, don't do that to yourself.

[Unregistered user]

Originally Posted by mgvande

When the time comes I just hope for skinny fingers. Like the dainty fingers of a piano player.

Good luck, my doc has skinny fingers but she's rough. Aaargh!

[mgvande]

Originally Posted by Unregistered user

Good luck, my doc has skinny fingers but she's rough. Aaargh!

Oh man. Your not helping.

[Skybuster]

Originally Posted by blacknorthernjk

It's a prostate folks, not a prostrate. No one is taking it lying face down arms stretched out here.

Thank you.

[Prairiewolf]

Guys, I gotta say I'm proud to see this thread. Good to see guys talking and asking questions about this - regardless of age.

Whatever your course of action, the PSA test is still the best way to screen for prostate cancer. The other things mentioned (frequent urination, persistent urge to urinate, etc) can be precursors, but not necessarily indicative of cancer.

PSA boys.

[Unregistered user]

Originally Posted by mgvande

Oh man. Your not helping.

Okay, well it's nothing compared to a colonoscopy. You get those starting at 50.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by Unregistered user

Good luck, my doc has skinny fingers but she's rough. Aaargh!

Ask her to take her rings off!

BW

[Stinky Buffalo]

Originally Posted by Unregistered user

Okay, well it's nothing compared to a colonoscopy. You get those starting at 50.

I've had plenty of those! Argh!

If your prostate is starting to pinch off your pee-pipe, be extra careful. It can cause issues with infections of the bladder/kidneys. My father-in-law had that happen to him - almost killed him. He regrets not having his prostate dealt with earlier.

[TrollGRG]

Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

Ask her to take her rings off!

BW

Was it her ring or watch?

[mgvande]

Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo

I've had plenty of those! Argh!

If your prostate is starting to pinch off your pee-pipe, be extra careful. It can cause issues with infections of the bladder/kidneys. My father-in-law had that happen to him - almost killed him. He regrets not having his prostate dealt with earlier.

So the name Stinky comes honestly?

[Rastus]

Originally Posted by Prairiewolf

Guys, I gotta say I'm proud to see this thread. Good to see guys talking and asking questions about this - regardless of age.

Whatever your course of action, the PSA test is still the best way to screen for prostate cancer. The other things mentioned (frequent urination, persistent urge to urinate, etc) can be precursors, but not necessarily indicative of cancer.

PSA boys.

First line is right, second line, I agree with, but respectfully disagree. They found my Cancer with the old finger probe, don't misunderstand me, HATE IT WITH A PASSION. But that is how they found mine. Got the PSA test once a year faithfully.

[Stinky Buffalo]

Originally Posted by mgvande

So the name Stinky comes honestly?

Oh, it does... It does.

[Hiwa]

I'm 54 and about 1 1/2 years overdue for a test again. It was slightly elevated (psa test) and the happy finger test last time, but I should go again.

Don't get up to pee all the time , but have Low pressure most of the time unless I take my BP pills which have a diuretic component.

I'll be honest , you guys are worrying me.

[KegRiver]

Sorry I can't offer any advice. I have health issues but not that one.

I just want to say, take care of yourself. I've never met you but I like what you post and the way you conduct yourself. I think you are one of the good guys here.

I have another reason for posting.
I lost my best friend to prostate cancer. I trust this is not cancer but I know that one dare not mess around when you're having prostate issues.

I will be praying for you.

[JD848]

Were males and in the past 20 years more has been done than in 4000,so I went through living hell 18 years ago and only 40 at the time due to a tumour that blocked the flow,so age of coarse is only one part and fear helps nothing,get checked 3 times a year if your worried and do as much reading as possible to prepare your self for your visit's to the doctor,diet,sex is important so that gland functions well,don't sit on it get rid of what's inside it and make new stuff to keep the gland functions in order.This is one of the major causes of prostate problems and that is not recycling the fluidis inside it.When they stick a hose in you hooked up to a camera it's no fun,nothing is suppose to go up inside your penis,so thjis may scare you,but it's not a 5 hour test,ten minutes and they look in your bladder for any troubling signs.If they don't probe and look things can be missed,so don't back out of any tests,your butt to a doctor is the same as any other part of your body.

Get your PSA and ever blood test known to man,a simple thing can be missed,so ask for the whole works,liver,kidneys, your hormone levels .any problem with like lets say an adrenal gland can have serious affects on your prostate,so get all test to make sure your master gland is tune with the rest of the others,if the doc won't do it fine one that will and do it fast.

like I said in my early post look up Curtis Nickel, world wide as the greatest researcher in male urology and right here in our country,go to the mayo in the usa and his name is highly respected by all and many were his students,learn all the signs and you may save your self from trouble in the future which than maybe to late.The tuff guy days are behind us and talking about this is no worst than talking about fishing or hunting.the main reason women were so far ahead of us is that they talked about it.
I think if you do all your home work and go see your doctor if something does go wrong one thing you avoid is feeling guilty to your love ones,which for some is very hard to deal with,but no one is at fault no one expects the worst if you have been healthy most of your life.

[Bigwoodsman]

So just had my second cystoscopy. Not fun in any way, shape or form. Prostate has swollen to the point that I now require a TURP. On the waiting list for this.

Anyone here have this procedure before?

BW

[sjemac]

Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

So just had my second cystoscopy. Not fun in any way, shape or form. Prostate has swollen to the point that I now require a TURP. On the waiting list for this.

Anyone here have this procedure before?

BW

Oh Sweet Baby Jebus!

http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-proc...t/rec-20211838

[skidderman]

Originally Posted by sjemac

Oh Sweet Baby Jebus!

http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-proc...t/rec-20211838

My buddy did & he is OK now. Very high degree of pain until it heals but still better than the alternative.

[Newellknik]

Pretty well the only condition I didn't have in common with the old
Guy coffee clan .....Turned seventy , complained to doc I can't stand up
Without having to pee . ... Ultra sound , enlarged , PSA same as always 2,
Aavadart, suppose to shrink it . I have 2 buddies both have cancer .,
1 going soon for 40 days radiation, other doesn't know yet .
It is what it is ....the 3 of us plan on fishing lots .

Cystoscopy , while sitting in the waiting room , a 20 yr. 6' 6" ,250
came out from the back room , total emotional breakdown , crying
Like 2 babies . 80 yr. old sitting there says ....Aw **** I ve had 3 of
those in the last year , nothing to it . I nearly walked !
I hardly screamed !

[Grizzly Adams]

To quote my son. We call Naturopathic remedies that actually work, Medicine. there's too much at stake here to trust it to some Hocus Pocus. see a doctor, preferably a specialist.

Grizz

[260 Rem]

My advice is not to avoid the tests you should be getting...and don't fear the "procedures". One thing is worse than finding out you have prostrate or colon cancer ... is having it, and not knowing.
The main fear of colonoscopy is just the fear ... for the most part they are just a bit uncomfortable but no big deal. I had several but not any more because I no longer have a colon. They reconfigured part of my small intestine ten years ago and life is good.
It is my understanding that there is a direct relationship between age and urinary frequency. ...Because the bladder loses some elasticity ... doesn't empty completely...so need another potty trip before long. Bladder relaxants can help at night. During the day, being retired and living on an acreage reduces the inconvenience

[huntinstuff]

My first thought was; "if you are on AO hoping for advice for saving your life, it's likely you will die"

My second thought, after reading the posts, was; "everyone is different ". While you are experimenting with 100 different ideas for curing it, cancer is growing....


Be involved in your healthcare. Most guys ask 1000 questions on what rifle to buy, but dont ask their Dr 2 questions. ......

Dr's get paid whether you die or not.

If you put a cost on your treatment, you are dead already.

[sjemac]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

To quote my son. We call Naturopathic remedies that actually work, Medicine. there's too much at stake here to trust it to some Hocus Pocus. see a doctor, preferably a specialist.

Grizz

x2. Trust doctors -- real ones. Getting a 2nd opinion is fine. My buddy did it when he had prostate cancer but it was from another MD, not a shaman doing live blood cultures and staring at your eye colors.

Sometimes the real treatments are hard, painful and don't hold out a lot of hope. So people start taking homeopathic crap and traveling to foreign lands to get "better" treatment. They only thing they accomplish ultimately is poverty.

I'd have a disclaimer below all Naturopaths and Homeopaths that stated,
"For entertainment purposes only."

[skidderman]

Most natural cures almost end but then comes the send $69.95 to get the rest of the info. Don't you honestly think that if there was a real good cure it would be well know.

[dodger]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

My first thought was; "if you are on AO hoping for advice for saving your life, it's likely you will die"

My second thought, after reading the posts, was; "everyone is different ". While you are experimenting with 100 different ideas for curing it, cancer is growing....


Be involved in your healthcare. Most guys ask 1000 questions on what rifle to buy, but dont ask their Dr 2 questions. ......

Dr's get paid whether you die or not.

If you put a cost on your treatment, you are dead already.

Great post.

Dodger

[Big Grey Wolf]

My Friend Fred with high PSA's was humming and hawing for a number of months after his Urologist at U of A was recommending treatment. The Urologist finally said to him " Fred do you want to live or do you want to die" That was 6 years ago since he had surgery, "life is good man" now. Guys please listen to your Urologist, they see hundreds of cases every year. Get a second opinion if you must.