Oh Donald.......

[wellpastcold]

Originally Posted by dmcbride

So the lumber companies are making money off crown land which belongs to all Canadians? I thought the left were against this sort of thing?

Like it or not, the lumber dispute has been happening for years and the last Softwood Lumber Agreement expired on October 12, 2015. Trudeau probably should have made this a priority instead of catering to ABC (anyone but Canadians).

I think you need to drop your political bulwark. This is about politicians in the US. It takes 2 to make a deal. I guess it must always be Canadas fault in trade issues? Like country of origin labelling on beef right? Absolutely not a protectionist measure at all right? Sadly the Donald and his cohort are destined to revisit the benefits of protectionism. See the Great Depression. Fact is you can't border tax your industries back to health.

[MAC]

Originally Posted by Scott h

But this time it will be different cuz the TV reality star says so......

I find that Potus believes that what he accomplishes really has no consequence as long as he talks tough and the public shout their support for MAGA
He will always have someone to blame as to why he cant acomplish anything.
Its not his Fault
IMO the only things he actually put through only benefit business without making America great again.

MAC

[gbart]

A lot of pretty low opinions on Trump's ability, intelligence and knowledge. You would think a guy like our fearless leader would be able to make mince meat out of him when it comes to trade? ....Right??

[The Elkster]

Originally Posted by gbart

A lot of pretty low opinions on Trump's ability, intelligence and knowledge. You would think a guy like our fearless leader would be able to make mince meat out of him when it comes to trade? ....Right??

The fact that the US economy is 10X bigger than ours and we run a trade deficit might have something to do with why no Canadian leader has won this war. But I'm sure you understood that and there was no political bias intended in your post LOL

[wellpastcold]

Originally Posted by The Elkster

The fact that the US economy is 10X bigger than ours and we run a trade deficit might have something to do with why no Canadian leader has won this war. But I'm sure you understood that and there was no political bias intended in your post LOL

Then why does the Donald think it's " the worst deal in history- bad deal -worst ever"? Maybe just more BS? Trade deficit versus who exactly?

[gbart]

Originally Posted by The Elkster

The fact that the US economy is 10X bigger than ours and we run a trade deficit might have something to do with why no Canadian leader has won this war. But I'm sure you understood that and there was no political bias intended in your post LOL

Liberal Government was working on extending the Lumber Trade Deal when they entered into Power. What did they do?? Personally, I am more concerned about how we act more than what Trump does. We are also expected to come up with that extra 1.1% of GDP for NATO. What are we going to do there?

[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by wellpastcold

I think you need to drop your political bulwark. This is about politicians in the US. It takes 2 to make a deal. I guess it must always be Canadas fault in trade issues? Like country of origin labelling on beef right? Absolutely not a protectionist measure at all right? Sadly the Donald and his cohort are destined to revisit the benefits of protectionism. See the Great Depression. Fact is you can't border tax your industries back to health.

" Like country of origin labelling on beef right?" So it isn't about Trump?

Yes it takes 2 to make a deal which includes our prime minister.

[bb356]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Exactly! Unfortunately having Trudeau as our leader is hurting our economy, and it's only going to get worse, unless he starts working to build our economy, rather than giving away our hard earned money to non Canadians.

yup

[Fur]

Canada is a resource economy. Our dollar is based on the price of oil. Our dollar is giving Canadians less and less buying power.

If our PM wants to keep putting our resources down it will be his down fall. Eco tards and lefties are all very happy when they can look "better" than others by claiming to fight for the environment, feminism, other countries besides Canada and whatever else makes them feel superior at night. But when the money they are using to pay for their socialist programs and feel good attitudes dry up we will see what happens. I cannot predict the future but I am pretty sure they wont be generous with their OWN money.

I cannot fault a leader for protecting his people's interests, Canada needs to do the same.

[covey ridge]

Originally Posted by gbart

A lot of pretty low opinions on Trump's ability, intelligence and knowledge. You would think a guy like our fearless leader would be able to make mince meat out of him when it comes to trade? ....Right??

No matter how much ability, intelligence and knowledge one has it must be difficult to deal with a crazy person who has no perception of reality and one who believes for the moment at least that whatever sprays from his mouth is true.

[covey ridge]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Canada has no room to talk in that regard either.

Canada has no need to talk on the ego driven greatness that Trump spouts and thinks America needs to get back to.

It is obvious that you do not like our present leadership? I don't either but given the choice of Canada and Trudeau or the USA and Trump I choose Canada.

[Albertacoyotecaller]

Originally Posted by Fur

Canada is a resource economy. Our dollar is based on the price of oil. Our dollar is giving Canadians less and less buying power.

If our PM wants to keep putting our resources down it will be his down fall. Eco tards and lefties are all very happy when they can look "better" than others by claiming to fight for the environment, feminism, other countries besides Canada and whatever else makes them feel superior at night. But when the money they are using to pay for their socialist programs and feel good attitudes dry up we will see what happens. I cannot predict the future but I am pretty sure they wont be generous with their OWN money.

I cannot fault a leader for protecting his people's interests, Canada needs to do the same.

Exactly. Our leader needs to lead, not discuss publically how his dad bought off the legal system to save his drug addicted son.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by covey ridge

Canada has no need to talk on the ego driven greatness that Trump spouts and thinks America needs to get back to.

It is obvious that you do not like our present leadership? I don't either but given the choice of Canada and Trudeau or the USA and Trump I choose Canada.

Canada will never be great as long as Trudeau is in charge, and it gets farther from greatness every day. I choose Canada; only because we have an election coming up in a couple of years, so we will have the opportunity to elect a competent leader to replace the fool that is currently in charge.

[Map Maker]

So, most on here are predicting doom and gloom about the lumber tariffs to canada.
But the major lumber company are seen with HUGE gains on the stock market today.
West Fraser is up 5 bucks or 8%.

Is it because the tariff wasnt as bad as they thought? Or
Same old same old and it will get overturned? Or
Government has secretly told companies that it will pay the tariffs with tax payer money?
Or?

Sometimes i feel we have no clue what goes on behind closed doors.

[bb356]

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Canada will never be great as long as Trudeau is in charge, and it gets farther from greatness every day. I choose Canada; only because we have an election coming up in a couple of years, so we will have the opportunity to elect a competent leader to replace the fool that is currently in charge.

I wouldn't hold my breath. We had a competent leader with Harper but you see how that played out. As much as I liked him I doubt there would be much difference on how the US and Canada get on with Donald and Bannon running the show down south. We'll see how things play out when he slaps a 20% tariff on oil in the near future.

[gitrdun]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

You're referring to Trudeau? Correct?

Trudeau will do one of three things when threatened by Trump.

He will fart in Trump's general direction.

He will play dead.

Or He will take a selfie of himself doing either or both with a scowl on his face as proof that he is a tough negotiator.

Justin is our man if he can't, no one can't.

You forgot one.

He'll cower in the corner and pee his panties.

[gitrdun]

Originally Posted by bb356

Beauty man. Where the heck do you get those pics?

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by Map Maker

So, most on here are predicting doom and gloom about the lumber tariffs to canada.
But the major lumber company are seen with HUGE gains on the stock market today.
West Fraser is up 5 bucks or 8%.

Is it because the tariff wasnt as bad as they thought? Or
Same old same old and it will get overturned? Or
Government has secretly told companies that it will pay the tariffs with tax payer money?
Or?

Sometimes i feel we have no clue what goes on behind closed doors.

The official line is that lumber prices are high enough (due to high American demand) to absorb the added cost.

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by Albertacoyotecaller

Exactly. Our leader needs to lead, not discuss publically how his dad bought off the legal system to save his drug addicted son.

So what would you have him do? Raise royalty rates on lumber and other resources (oil/gas) ? Perhaps put a reciprocal 20% export tax on anything sold to the US??? That would show them.......

[sjemac]

Trump's just getting desperate for a win.

Any win at all right now. He's getting shut down so much right now that his first trade attack is at the country he said he wasn't concerned about -- he's losing against Mexico in trade decisions, he's had to back off his wall, his immigration, his sanctuary cities edict. He's losing left and right AND that's with his own party in power.

This was low hanging fruit that will hurt his own people more than help them as it drives up the costs of home ownership for the little guy and will add little in way of employment for his own workers.

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by sjemac

Trump's just getting desperate for a win.

Any win at all right now. He's getting shut down so much right now that his first trade attack is at the country he said he wasn't concerned about -- he's losing against Mexico in trade decisions, he's had to back off his wall, his immigration, his sanctuary cities edict. He's losing left and right AND that's with his own party in power.

This was low hanging fruit that will hurt his own people more than help them as it drives up the costs of home ownership for the little guy and will add little in way of employment for his own workers.

He can't be too worried, he's still golfing and partying most weekends

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by gitrdun

You forgot one.

He'll cower in the corner and pee his panties.

Actually he did hang a licking on Patrick Brazeau a few years ago. Pretty much the only thing Trump could take down may be a Russian hooker.

[sjemac]

Originally Posted by Scott h

Actually he did hang a licking on Patrick Brazeau a few years ago. Pretty much the only thing Trump could take down may be a Russian hooker.

Trump is already on the verge of being a lame-duck president. Nobody is going to be afraid of him soon. After the mid-term elections -- it'll be like Obama never left.

[Albertacoyotecaller]

Originally Posted by Scott h

So what would you have him do? Raise royalty rates on lumber and other resources (oil/gas) ? Perhaps put a reciprocal 20% export tax on anything sold to the US??? That would show them.......

How about actively pursuing other markets for Canadians.

Everyone new this was coming. It's nothing new. The question is what did you expect Donald to do?

We have a leader that doesn't show any leadership. Only thing he portrays is how he is having s good time vacationing.

[buck403]

Originally Posted by bobtodrick

He's looking after his countries best interests...nothing wrong with that.
If Trudeau would do the same, instead of trying to save the world we'd be better prepared for whatever happens.

Soooo true!

[Unregistered user]

Originally Posted by sjemac

Trump is already on the verge of being a lame-duck president. Nobody is going to be afraid of him soon. After the mid-term elections -- it'll be like Obama never left.

Too much cnn there bud.

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by Albertacoyotecaller

How about actively pursuing other markets for Canadians.

Actually BC has greatly increased it's sales of lumber to Asia over the last decade, but increasing sales to yet more countries is imperative. Relying on the USA as a sole trading partner is a losing proposition.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by bobtodrick

He's looking after his countries best interests...nothing wrong with that.
If Trudeau would do the same, instead of trying to save the world we'd be better prepared for whatever happens.

Exactly.

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by Unregistered user

Too much cnn there bud.

I guess we'll know very shortly when Trump can show case all his achievements that he's accomplished in his all important "first 100 days".
I'm sure his list will be very impressive.....