I Want to pick someones brain on 402 Elk?

[Big Grey Wolf]

Mentioned it before on AO. A collared grizz in Alaska ate 40+ moose calves in one spring banquet. A few less bears and wolves will sure help elk and moose in All foothill WMu's.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

Mentioned it before on AO. A collared grizz in Alaska ate 40+ moose calves in one spring banquet. A few less bears and wolves will sure help elk and moose in All foothill WMu's.

Read a study (have since not been able to find it again) on the elk of yaha tinda. If I remember it right calf mortality was close to 100%.....grizz were the culprit.

[dshaw]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

Read a study (have since not been able to find it again) on the elk of yaha tinda. If I remember it right calf mortality was close to 100%.....grizz were the culprit.

Yes, I believe it was a couple years ago that only 3 calves survived and there were 17 grizzly bears in the valley during calving season. Predators need to be reduced and that will greatly help the elk, unfortunately our government doesn't care about ungulates very much.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by dshaw

Yes, I believe it was a couple years ago that only 3 calves survived and there were 17 grizzly bears in the valley during calving season. Predators need to be reduced and that will greatly help the elk, unfortunately our government doesn't care about ungulates very much.

They seem to love their caribou. Maybe the grizz need to start chewing up more of them

[Big Grey Wolf]

If I remember correct, their were estimated 2000 elk in Yaha most winter/fall. Number dropped to around 200 and yes almost no calves as they are first to go. I believe it was a combination of both grizz and wolves doing the damage.
PS a green group probably Y2K just announced we have 6000 km of trails in our foothills that should be reduced to protect our grizzly bears.

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

If I remember correct, their were estimated 2000 elk in Yaha most winter/fall. Number dropped to around 200 and yes almost no calves as they are first to go. I believe it was a combination of both grizz and wolves doing the damage.
PS a green group probably Y2K just announced we have 6000 km of trails in our foothills that should be reduced to protect our grizzly bears.

There were three groups of predators who decimated those elk. One of them uses reefer trucks.

[anchorman]

https://www.umt.edu/yahatinda/files/..._2013-2016.pdf

This could be the study, its a short read. Not quite as high as mentioned, but most would agree the problem hasn't gotten better since 2016 when it ended.

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by anchorman

https://www.umt.edu/yahatinda/files/..._2013-2016.pdf

This could be the study, its a short read. Not quite as high as mentioned, but most would agree the problem hasn't gotten better since 2016 when it ended.

Yaha is still being studied.

Note that the calf mortality mentioned is typically for a 90 day period.
After a short time Elk calves are too fast for bears, then the wolves continue the elk population decline.

As of 2021, the Yaha Elk herd is declining again due to bear and wolf predation.

https://www.umt.edu/yahatinda/files/...2021_small.pdf

[Pekan]

Originally Posted by anchorman

https://www.umt.edu/yahatinda/files/..._2013-2016.pdf

This could be the study, its a short read. Not quite as high as mentioned, but most would agree the problem hasn't gotten better since 2016 when it ended.

What a shame.

[MooseRiverTrapper]

What a shame! Jason Nixon a so called hunter was asleep at the wheel. I had some hope for management when he got into that position. What a waste….

[WinefredCommander]

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper

What a shame! Jason Nixon a so called hunter was asleep at the wheel. I had some hope for management when he got into that position. What a waste….

Pathetically useless!

[DRhunter]

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper

What a shame! Jason Nixon a so called hunter was asleep at the wheel. I had some hope for management when he got into that position. What a waste….

Unfortunately have to agree with you. He had a great start and I was extremely impressed with what he had to say and the projects he had kickstarted early in the term.. cue Covid and obviously the priorities completely changed with this government and the hunting file essentially got shelved again. Sad.

Maybe now with Danielle at the helm the government can rightly move past the Covid obsession and get back to doing real work again.. hoping for the best but as always, preparing for the worst.

DR


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[hayseed]

Nixon is done, came in hard and is limp like an old farm dog now.
I thought he was promising, but I guess my expectations were too high for him, just another political puppet.