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12-28-2016, 01:20 PM
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Washing Machine Tips
I recently added a washing machine to the shed and it's saved me a lot of time instead of washing by hand. I'm a little concerned about the quality of my fur after washing though. My pelts don't have the shine that they had when hand washing and the guard hairs look a little frizzy (?). I'm using Sunlight dish soap but I've been thinking about trying baby shampoo.
Anyone have any tips for using a washing machine?
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12-28-2016, 02:18 PM
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I used to machine wash all my coyotes when I did the trapping thing. Max of 3 coyotes per load, I used dish soap as well but very little. Too much soap and you wash out the natural oils. I then ran them thru the dryer at lowest possible heat....they turned out very good.
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12-28-2016, 02:38 PM
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theres a guy on youtube called cooncreek outdoors that has a fur washing video. he doesnt use any soap at all from what i recall
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12-28-2016, 03:44 PM
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We use pet shampoo from Walmart and are happy with the results.The comparison between washed/unwashed is very noticeable and the dirty water that results says a lot as well.
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12-28-2016, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterDave
I recently added a washing machine to the shed and it's saved me a lot of time instead of washing by hand. I'm a little concerned about the quality of my fur after washing though. My pelts don't have the shine that they had when hand washing and the guard hairs look a little frizzy (?). I'm using Sunlight dish soap but I've been thinking about trying baby shampoo.
Anyone have any tips for using a washing machine?
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How long you putting them in for Dave? From what I understand, washing machines work well but you can't run it for too long. Maybe 2 or 3 minutes. I wash by hand with a small bit of Dawn. I like the way they look but wish I could wring them out with a washer to dry faster. I hang dry for a day before boarding.
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12-28-2016, 07:17 PM
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I use a mix of detergents in warm water, then rinse with cold.
- 50ml Sunlight
- 150ml brand "X" liquid clothing detergent
- 50ml fabric softener
I finish with a few sprays of "Straight Arrow" mane 'n tail hair strengthener while brushing.
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12-28-2016, 08:09 PM
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I use baby shampoo with a snort of fabric softener ..was a thread on here last year about washing yote ..only wash for about 3 min ... if you can spin them then hang for cuple hours you can board then
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12-28-2016, 10:31 PM
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Thanks for the tips, fellas. One thing.....after your wash cycle, regardless of what you are using for a detergent, do you wash again to rinse?
The washing machine is very convenient but I'm not satisfied with the end results in comparison to washing by hand. I'm ditching the sunlight detergent and going with something mild like pet or baby shampoo. Wash time will be reduced to only a minute or two followed by a one minute rinse and spin. If I'm still not happy with that I'll try straight water with no rinse.
I hate experimenting with money but I guess that I'll have to find a method that works best with a machine. Hopefully I can replicate a hand wash. I'll find out tomorrow or Friday when I turn the pelts I guess.
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12-29-2016, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by coyote_man
We use pet shampoo from Walmart and are happy with the results.The comparison between washed/unwashed is very noticeable and the dirty water that results says a lot as well.
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im using same thing it's all natural and doesn't contain any enzymes and they look great afterwards,i do by hand
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12-29-2016, 11:16 AM
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i wash with regular shampoo. i toss two or three pelts into the washing machine at a time. set it to delicate. and add a few tablespoonfuls of shampoo to the wash water. its very little soap per water amount. the rinse on my machine is quick and the spin cycle helps dry the pelts quite a bit! easy peasy
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12-29-2016, 11:59 AM
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What I am hearing/reading, is that settings are on delicate and rinse cycles.
Am I to assume that you are using the household washer to do this and not the older agitator models ? Or how many are using the house machine (when the wife is not home ?
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12-29-2016, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sourdough doug
What I am hearing/reading, is that settings are on delicate and rinse cycles.
Am I to assume that you are using the household washer to do this and not the older agitator models ? Or how many are using the house machine (when the wife is not home ?
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best not to use the wifes washing machine in my experience. i have a machine from work that wasnt being used to i set it up in the shop. its a regular top load washer. maybe 10 years old.
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12-29-2016, 12:23 PM
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best not to use the wifes washing machine in my experience. i have a machine from work that wasnt being used to i set it up in the shop. its a regular top load washer. maybe 10 years old.
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HEAR HEAR..... x2, and I have a seperate freezer for "stuff".
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12-31-2016, 06:12 PM
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Okay, I have things sorted out. I got rid of the detergent and picked up some Johnson & Johnson 2 in 1 baby shampoo and conditioner. Agitate about 30 seconds and then about two minutes on the easiest setting. No rinse and spin dry. Very little hair left in the drum. When I turn fur out on the board I put a strong fan in front of the pelts and it helps to separate the hair and fluff things up. Looking good now.
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01-04-2017, 03:01 PM
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Washing Pelts
I agree washing pelts gives a good result but I have yet to see or determine if it gives a person a better price at auction . ?
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01-04-2017, 10:03 PM
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I'm not sure how good a job nafa does drumming Coyotes nor do I trust a stranger to whip them into shape for the auction . I ll keep washing mine and I know for a fact my average reflects on it. I compare my avg to alot of trappers and I'll spend the extra 3 mins and wash mine.
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01-05-2017, 07:55 AM
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Washing Coyotes
Agree , washing & not relying on someone else for good result . Has anyone been to NAFA to see the results of their drumming , I'm sure people would be interested in the results .
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01-05-2017, 06:45 PM
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Here's what I know. There's about 15 trappers and custom skinners that I hang out with that are pretty competitive. We compare furs and nafa averages. There two guys in our group that rely on drumming. The basically skin,flesh sew and stretch. They avg at least 25 $ less and some years 30 percent of their furs don't sell. The most beautiful Coyotes I've seen were tumbled in a homemade 45 gallon drum with snow. Belcourt and sultker would fight for these Coyotes.
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01-05-2017, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitetail200
Agree , washing & not relying on someone else for good result . Has anyone been to NAFA to see the results of their drumming , I'm sure people would be interested in the results .
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Here's a picture of a sample of top lot (SSL) coyotes from a couple of years ago. My pelts already have that fluffiness when I turn them in but I'm sure that the nafa drumming must fluff them up as well. Don't know how much whiter the white would get though.
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01-06-2017, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by HunterDave
Here's a picture of a sample of top lot (SSL) coyotes from a couple of years ago. My pelts already have that fluffiness when I turn them in but I'm sure that the nafa drumming must fluff them up as well. Don't know how much whiter the white would get though.
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Looks like those top lots don't even have the ear cartridge removed...I plan on going down to the next sale to watch the grading and talk to them
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01-06-2017, 07:33 AM
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Washing Coyotes
Thanks for the discussion , Nice looking fur Dave , Coy Coyote , that's interesting comparison , are the two guys in your group going to start to wash their pelts . Belcourt & Sultker , names I haven't heard of in a while .
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01-06-2017, 12:31 PM
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Looks like those top lots don't even have the ear cartridge removed...I plan on going down to the next sale to watch the grading and talk to them.
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Please take lots of pictures to share.
Speaking of pictures, that picture isn't mine so I suppose that I may be accused of stealing someone's work again.
Nah, 5911ryan posted it up to share it with his fellow Trappers and he's not a dink.
If I remember correctly Ryan found himself confused when he noticed clots of blood and matted hair on the pelts in the top lots. Also, like you mentioned, ear cartilage in, cartilage out, things like that. Hopefully things are clearer for you.
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01-06-2017, 01:37 PM
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It would be nice to know what makes the differences and spend more time on what matters to them...After all the customer is always right!
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01-06-2017, 02:17 PM
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Last year I took pictures of the front and back of about 70 pelts and tracked how they graded. No top lot due to colour but numerous in the second, third and fourth lots. One of these days I have to put something together with the photos and grade.
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