Price of browning Citori in 1984

[-JR-]

I am sure a few of you guys bought a new Browning Citori in 1984
12 gauge ,30 inch barrel ,3 inch ,fixed chokes , grade 1 (high gloss, gold trigger ,some engraving)

How much did you pay for it back then ?
Please no guessing .

[elkhunter11]

My Citori Skeet cost $1400 about then, but it had invector chokes.

[-JR-]

Originally Posted by -JR-

I am sure a few of you guys bought a new Browning Citori in 1984
12 gauge ,30 inch barrel ,3 inch ,fixed chokes , grade 1 (high gloss, gold trigger ,some engraving)

How much did you pay for it back then ?
Please no guessing .

And made in Belgium for hunting use

[saskbooknut]

Citori was not made in Belgium

[-JR-]

this one says it right on the barrel.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by -JR-

this one says it right on the barrel.

Then it's not a Citori. It could be a Superposed

[kilgoretrout]

Is it marked NATIONALE FABRIQUE HERSTAL, MADE IN BELGIUM" if so its more likely a upgraded Browning B27 and consider yourself lucky..... I myself have a Made in Japan Citori which I picked up off a cowboy in the late eighties for 300 dollars ..... consider myself lucky ....... either way you have a nice o/u

[-JR-]

Rifle is not at home but hear is one that i found for sale on the web. except mine is black. i have found many other citors that are made in Belgium
https://www.cowanauctions.com/lot/be...hotgun-3221128

[-JR-]

how about this one
https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-Mi...ation/49288431

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by -JR-

Rifle is not at home but hear is one that i found for sale on the web. except mine is black. i have found many other citors that are made in Belgium
https://www.cowanauctions.com/lot/be...hotgun-3221128

You may have found many ads where people claim to have a Citori that was made in Belgium. That is not a Citori.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by -JR-

how about this one
https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-Mi...ation/49288431

Look at the fore end, that is not a Citori.

[brewster29]

Elk is correct.

Citori shotguns are now and have always been made in Japan by Miroku.
Folks call many Browning OU guns Citori when they are not. Most Belgian made Brownings are Superposed variants.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by -JR-

how about this one
https://www.proxibid.com/Firearms-Mi...ation/49288431

The screw in the forend is a dead giveaway for a Superposed , the Citori forend is built without it.
Cat

[Dean2]

I have a Browning Citori Skeet, 26" fixed skeet chokes with the Beavertail forearm, It was $549 new on Dec 27, 1977 boxing day sale. Got it from Dot at the W,W, Arcade but I did not record what the full retail price would have been. It was my Christmas present to myself for that year. It would appear from what Elk posted that prices went up a lot between 1977 and 1984.

The guys are right that ALL Citori shotguns were made in Japan. None were ever made in Belgium.

[-JR-]

Had a look at the citori last night. It was made in Japan ,It was the Auto 5 that was made in Belgium .

So back to the original question .How much did the citori sell for in 1984

[elkhunter11]

From what I can see online , the MSRP in the USA was $775 for the field model in 1984.

[saskbooknut]

Price in 1984 is irrelevant today.
A fixed choke Grade 1 Citori 12 gauge in as new condition is worth about $1,000. Signs of wear and dings will drop the price quickly.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by saskbooknut

Price in 1984 is irrelevant today.
A fixed choke Grade 1 Citori 12 gauge in as new condition is worth about $1,000. Signs of wear and dings will drop the price quickly.

You might think it is irrelevant but after I posted I got thinking about a few things. In 1977 $549 was some serious cash. An extra large fully loaded Pizza at Tony's was $2.25 and a bottle of Canadian to go with it was 30 cents. The average doctor was making $25,000 a year, most average wage earners, half that much so that Citori was almost half a months net pay. I was like many young guys, got a job in Ft Mac working for Bechtel while they were building the first plants up there. Making over $40,000 a year, you couldn't spend it as fast as you made it, though some tried real hard. The oil patch was why so many guys graduated High School and went straight to work. Most could not see any point in getting a University education when you could make huge bucks in the patch.

Relatively speaking guns, especially quality guns, are a whole bunch cheaper today than they were back then. That is true of reloading gear and many other hunting related products.

[saskbooknut]

Point was, what someone paid originally doesn't relate to current valuation of the shotgun. A Gr. 1 12 gauge Superposed bought in 1984 would have a list price of $4500US, and be worth about what the Citori is now. The market is cruel.
Money isn't worth what it used to be.
While some things are much cheaper in current dollars, many are lesser quality too.
The disparity in wages has grown worse, so that many families need two incomes just to survive.
I find it sad that many young people have no real career opportunity, but just survive on McJobs.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by saskbooknut

Point was, what someone paid originally doesn't relate to current valuation of the shotgun. A Gr. 1 12 gauge Superposed bought in 1984 would have a list price of $4500US, and be worth about what the Citori is now. The market is cruel.
Money isn't worth what it used to be.
While some things are much cheaper in current dollars, many are lesser quality too.
The disparity in wages has grown worse, so that many families need two incomes just to survive.
I find it sad that many young people have no real career opportunity, but just survive on McJobs.

I know this isn't really on topic, but I find your comment about McJobs quite interesting. Some Alberta store (McDonald's) Managers earn over $100,000 a year with bonuses, assistant mangers can easily earn $70,000. Paying a quality Manger $100,000 a year to run a store grossing $2 million a year is a no brainer. If he saves you 5% on waste and drops your staff turnover 10% he made you triple what you paid him.

A close friend of mine manages an Earl's, he is making over $350,000 a year, at least before Covid hit. The biggest problem we have is finding people with strong enough people skills to be top quality managers, hell, even good team leaders are hard to come by. There are lots of high quality jobs around, but you still need the training, drive, desire and skills to do them. You would be surprised how many people won't take a job at McDonald's because of the perception their friends and family have of working there.

[saskbooknut]

You and I both know that most McDonald's jobs are minimum wage, as are the great majority of fast food restaurant jobs.. Manager's wage is irrelevant to the discussion.

[WinefredCommander]

irrelevant.

You really like this word.

[saskbooknut]

Used a word twice. What a crime.

[Dewey Cox]

Personally, I prefer to never type the same word more than once.
That's why my spelling is so poor.

[32-40win]

1977, I was making about 5-6.00/hr, gas was 0.39/ltr, and I paid 8200.00 for a new F250 4x4. I remember looking at BSS's, think it was back then, couldn't quite do it at the time. Think it was up around the 3-400 mark, just remember it was more than I could handle moneywise at the time.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by 32-40win

1977, I was making about 5-6.00/hr, gas was 0.39/ltr, and I paid 8200.00 for a new F250 4x4. I remember looking at BSS's, think it was back then, couldn't quite do it at the time. Think it was up around the 3-400 mark, just remember it was more than I could handle moneywise at the time.

I hear u and it matches what I remember too. One thing, i think gas was 39 cents an Imperial GALLON, which would be about 8 cents a liter. I had a BSS in 77 and traded it in on a Winchester Model 23 in 1980 because I found the BSS heavy and the 23 so much quicker and faster handling. That 23 was 1100 bucks at the time, which was huge money but I got 550 on the BSS in trade so seemed a great deal. Still have that 23 and it has taken a pile of game. Also shot a lot of sporting Clay's with it.

Even as a young guy, I always tried to buy top quality gear, especially guns. I think if more new shooters started out shooting higher end guns they would be more successful and they would also be more likely to stick with it and become more quickly enamoured with the sport.

[saskbooknut]

I bought a BSS 12 gauge in Nelson in 1977/78 for about $350 plus tax.
I also found it overweight for a carrying gun. It was great as a target or Duck gun.
I lost that gun to a break-in jerk about 1990. Insurance bought me a new Citori since the BSS was discontinued.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by saskbooknut

I bought a BSS 12 gauge in Nelson in 1977/78 for about $350 plus tax.
I also found it overweight for a carrying gun. It was great as a target or Duck gun.
I lost that gun to a break-in jerk about 1990. Insurance bought me a new Citori since the BSS was discontinued.

Yup. They were a great investment. Dot gave me 200 more for it on trade in 1980 than I bought it for from her new in 1975. Browning have always held their value really well, even over fairly short periods of time. They are also timeless high quality guns.

[32-40win]

I have in the back of my mind, can't remember details, but, I believe 77 or so was when gas switched to liters. And I cannot remember the price of a gallon at the time, I do remember buying at 0.39 a "whatever" though, may even have been a gallon. Strange, I do remember coming to AB for a weekend in 74, beer went from .20 to .25 a glass in BC that weekend.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by 32-40win

I have in the back of my mind, can't remember details, but, I believe 77 or so was when gas switched to liters. And I cannot remember the price of a gallon at the time, I do remember buying at 0.39 a "whatever" though, may even have been a gallon. Strange, I do remember coming to AB for a weekend in 74, beer went from .20 to .25 a glass in BC that weekend.

The Gas "Crisis" hit in 1979, it was the first completely bogus end of the world manufactured events I recall. We were running out of oil and there would be none in 5 years. Here in Alberta gas went to liters in 1980-81. Don't know about the other provinces. Gas hit a buck a gallon in 1979 here in Edmonton, we were all appalled. My memory says we were paying about 60 cents a gallon for gas in about 77.

I started driving in 69 and remember gas at 40 cents a gallon at the time. My buddy and I used to pool our money so we could afford to head out around Veg duck hunting Friday afternoon, sleep in the car and hunt Saturday too.