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Old 11-22-2013, 10:56 PM
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Default 12-year-old Canadian boy admits to hacking

This is why I love kids, read this tonite and had to chuckle. Here we have a 12 year old, bored and looking for a challenge - he decides to hack the websites of the Montreal police, the Quebec Institute of Public Health, the Chilean government and some non-public sites. Sells info to Anonymous so he can buy video games.

http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013...for-anonymous/


A 12-year-old Canadian boy has pleaded guilty to hacking government and police websites during the 2012 student uprising in Quebec under affiliation with the Anonymous brand of hacktivists.

According to the Toronto Sun, the fifth grader, who lives in the Montreal suburb of Notre-Dame-de-Grâce, appeared in youth court on Thursday, accompanied by his father.

The boy pleaded guilty to three charges related to hacking websites that included those of Montreal police, the Quebec Institute of Public Health, the Chilean government and some non-public sites.

The attacks took some of the sites offline for up to two days, at what police estimated as a cost of $60,000 in damages. A more detailed report will be handed over next month when the boy is sentenced, according to the Toronto Sun.

The student uprising of spring 2012, which lasted into that fall, was sparked by outrage at a proposed tuition hike and spiraled into a have v. have-nots version of Occupy Wall Street, marked by the use of Molotov cocktails on one occasion, police use of rubber bullets and tear gas, and serious injuries to both police and protesters.

Be that as it may, the boy's lawyer told the court that the 12-year-old's actions in hacking the sites weren't politically motivated:

He saw it as a challenge, he was only 12 years old. … There was no political purpose.

The paper reports that the young hacker has been involved with computers since he was 9.

The court was told that the targeted sites suffered three types of attack:

Distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack: An attack wherein the aggressors bombard a target with requests designed to consume so much of its resources that it becomes unusable.
Defacement of pages. See Pastebin for a message posted on the Montreal police's website in French and English.
Exploiting security holes in order to access database servers.

Others have reportedly been arrested for the attacks, but it was the boy who opened the door to enable them, the court was told.

The young hacker reportedly managed to get at personal information belonging to the sites' users and administrators.

According to the Toronto Sun, he traded the pirated information to Anonymous in exchange for video games.

He also taught others how to hack, police experts told the court, though he reportedly warned them against going overboard, lest they get caught.

The Toronto Sun says that the court heard testimony from somebody who said that the tween put it this way:

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It's easy to hack but do not go there too much, they will track you down.
I guess he went there too much, because they certainly did track him down.
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Old 11-22-2013, 11:06 PM
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They should recruit that kid instead of charging him. Would be more benificial to both partys.
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Old 11-22-2013, 11:13 PM
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There was not a long list of things I would NOT have done to get free video games at that age...lol
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:40 AM
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The US gov will be signing that boy up as soon as they can, wow 12 years old.
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:50 AM
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The US gov will be signing that boy up as soon as they can, wow 12 years old.
You bet, minstrels will be singing about him for generations

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Old 11-23-2013, 11:07 AM
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Good for him!!
Im halfway through my online hacking course, cant wait to finish and start hacking....
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Old 11-23-2013, 02:01 PM
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Yes...let's reward hackers with lucrative job offers. That way we will deter anyone else from hacking into secure websites. sarc off

Anyone caught hacking into anything should be banned from ever touching a computer or any sort of wireless thingy again.
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:52 PM
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Sure would be embarrassing for the Quebec cops if he'd hacked into the old gun registry.
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:18 PM
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Twofifty; Now that would be a classic for a long time LOL. Man would that make the goverment look more stupid then the dumasses they are for starting that crap. Sorry just venting some on a old thorn in my ass GUN REGISTY!! still leaves me with a bad tast in my mouth.
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:31 PM
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Yes...let's reward hackers with lucrative job offers. That way we will deter anyone else from hacking into secure websites. sarc off
The terms "secure" and "website" shouldn't ever go together. Security is for the most a smokescreen - proven by a 12 year old with some downloadable tools off the net. I wouldn't put this kid in the realm of "hacker" cause he doesn't fit the bill.

Truth be told, hacking isn't hard when one has a bit of interest and is willing to take risk. The average kid is fearless, reckless and not completely aware of the ramifications of their actions, that's what makes them interesting...

Where do you think the US government gets it's hackers? It's better to work with them than against them.
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:54 PM
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Why was he only in grade 5 if he's 12 years old?
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:03 PM
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Why was he only in grade 5 if he's 12 years old?
He is waiting for his dad to catch up to him......lol
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:08 PM
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Why was he only in grade 5 if he's 12 years old?
Happened in the spring 2012, he would have been 11. Think the media is messing up a little.
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Old 11-23-2013, 06:09 PM
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Why was he only in grade 5 if he's 12 years old?
He's from Quebec.

Actually in Quebec, 12 years old is considered quite late to be starting a life of crime.
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Old 11-23-2013, 06:13 PM
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He's from Quebec.

Actually in Quebec, 12 years old is considered quite late to be starting a life of crime.
haha.lol.

amazing still , if he can do all that he'll probably get a nice job somewhere ........im guessing something to do with computers.

im amazed by what the kids can do with these darn computers.
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Old 11-23-2013, 09:05 PM
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They should recruit that kid instead of charging him. Would be more benificial to both partys.
that's what Microsoft does
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Old 11-23-2013, 09:41 PM
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Yes...let's reward hackers with lucrative job offers. That way we will deter anyone else from hacking into secure websites. sarc off

Anyone caught hacking into anything should be banned from ever touching a computer or any sort of wireless thingy again.
You realize that alot of the best and brightest in network security started on the wrong side of the fence right? And further there is an unofficial war going on between the United States and China in Cyberspace right now right?

You don't imprison people with the talents you could use to keep your country safe from its enemies, you harbor that talent and use it to do good. I bring up the case of Frank Abagnale he pretty much invented modern check fraud and has done more now to prevent it by knowing how to go about it then alot of the experts out there.

But your right why not chop his fingers off to really nail the point home
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