Farm fish realesed in ocean

[bubba 96]

Farm fish realesed in ocean

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/b...ture-1.4257369

Fish farm releases thousands of Atlantic salmon east of Victoria
Company blames 'exceptionally high tides' coinciding with solar eclipse for net pen failure

[stuckincity]

Wouldn't that be considered an "invasive species".....?

I remember an outdoor magazine article from long before the internet about constructing a sea-level Panama Canal. Many people were against the idea, not only because of the horrendous cost, but also that "mixing species" between the Atlantic and Pacific was an extremely bad idea.

Sorry, can't remember any details and can't find it online.

[Grizzly Adams]

Supposedly they're sterile, I think.

Grizz

[rem338win]

I personally hope its the beginning of the end for that industry. The environmental disaster that these farms have been isn't often talked about and should be.

[Okotokian]

Jeeze. They have to stop that. Farm them in ponds on land with no danger of escape or contamination.

[does it ALL outdoors]

Originally Posted by rem338win

I personally hope its the beginning of the end for that industry. The environmental disaster that these farms have been isn't often talked about and should be.

Right on, couldn't agree more.

I've posted this here a few times, well worth the watch

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbxOFcvC4U

[bb356]

Originally Posted by does it ALL outdoors

Right on, couldn't agree more.

I've posted this here a few times, well worth the watch

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbxOFcvC4U

Thank's for the vid ... gonna watch it later !!!

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by rem338win

I personally hope its the beginning of the end for that industry. The environmental disaster that these farms have been isn't often talked about and should be.

I'm torn in this subject. We the human population, are expanding at an accelerated rate. Only so much of the planet to provide food for us. Imagine 50 years from now with double the population. Gonna be interesting how the world will feed the people.

[sjr]

Sure the seals, sea lions will have some very easy meals .

[normstad]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

I'm torn in this subject. We the human population, are expanding at an accelerated rate. Only so much of the planet to provide food for us. Imagine 50 years from now with double the population. Gonna be interesting how the world will feed the people.

Crickets. Seriously, crickets.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40454212...rce-of-protein

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by normstad

Crickets. Seriously, crickets.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40454212...rce-of-protein

I'll chance the fish farms thanks...

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

I'm torn in this subject. We the human population, are expanding at an accelerated rate. Only so much of the planet to provide food for us. Imagine 50 years from now with double the population. Gonna be interesting how the world will feed the people.

Yup, Ocean fishery is on the verge of collapse, Farming is supposed to be the answer. Talking about feeding people krill now, the base of the ocean food chain. Only real solution is population control.

Grizz

[bb356]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

I'll chance the fish farms thanks...

yup

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

Yup, Ocean fishery is on the verge of collapse, Farming is supposed to be the answer. Only real solution is population control.

Grizz

Yup. Some places could do with sterilization. Was going to mention it but that's a different topic, (sort of).

[bb356]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

I'm torn in this subject. We the human population, are expanding at an accelerated rate. Only so much of the planet to provide food for us. Imagine 50 years from now with double the population. Gonna be interesting how the world will feed the people.

+1 ... I'll wait to watch the vid and go from there !!!

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

Yup, Ocean fishery is on the verge of collapse, Farming is supposed to be the answer. Talking about feeding people krill now, the base of the ocean food chain. Only real solution is population control.

Grizz

How much money did the Trudeau gov't send to third world countries for family planning? How much for growing more food in the ocean? how much to patrol our coasts to stop overfishing?

[grouse_hunter]

Originally Posted by does it ALL outdoors

Right on, couldn't agree more.

I've posted this here a few times, well worth the watch

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbxOFcvC4U

That is a documentary worth watching! Thank you for the link.

[birdee]

mmmm north america has a decreasing population europe has a increasing population were do you think all those people are going.we are already experiencing it look in any mall in the inner edmonton looks like the united nations building.Half can't speak english. Your childrens children will not get jobs.Sorry but look after your own children first.I'll stop before i get in trouble.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by birdee

mmmm north america has a decreasing population europe has a increasing population were do you think all those people are going.we are already experiencing it look in any mall in the inner edmonton looks like the united nations building.Half can't speak english. Your childrens children will not get jobs.Sorry but look after your own children first.I'll stop before i get in trouble.

Mmmmmmm not sure where your getting your numbers from..... little birdie told you?
Do you mean a reduction of a rising population?

[ChrisGrohms]

Great video!! Definitely worth the time to watch. Hopefully this new Ndp govt we have here in bc does something about these farms!! I have always been a right leaning voter but this video really shows that our right leaning govts care more about the bottom dollar than the environment.
Chris

[PartTimeHunter]

Originally Posted by rem338win

I personally hope its the beginning of the end for that industry. The environmental disaster that these farms have been isn't often talked about and should be.

Wait. That can't be right. Those farms are in B.C. and everyone knows that B.C. is all about protecting the environment at all costs including refusing to allow pipelines because they are unsafe even at the cost of a large portion of our economy. Cross contaminate the fish stocks? Never! Dump raw sewage into the ocean? Ne....... oh wait....

[EZM]

As grizzy mentioned, these fish, are 3n, sterile triploids, so they are sterile and won't cause a population to appear suddenly to cause permanent invasive species contamination.

I think the concern is most related to the potential parasites and other diseases common in farm fish spreading to wild populations. Currently, from what I understand, there is comprehensive monitoring of this regulated industry and they monitor farms for this stuff.

Again, based on what I read ...... I am not "sky is falling" concerned.

[Salavee]

A good vid and the real deal regarding Fish Farms .. Salmon Confidential (at top of page)

http://baitrix.com/

[HoytCRX32]

Originally Posted by EZM

As grizzy mentioned, these fish, are 3n, sterile triploids, so they are sterile and won't cause a population to appear suddenly to cause permanent invasive species contamination.

I think the concern is most related to the potential parasites and other diseases common in farm fish spreading to wild populations. Currently, from what I understand, there is comprehensive monitoring of this regulated industry and they monitor farms for this stuff.

Again, based on what I read ...... I am not "sky is falling" concerned.

"Life finds a way"....Dr. Ian Malcolm (Chaotician)

[wags]

Originally Posted by HoytCRX32

"Life finds a way"....Dr. Ian Malcolm (Chaotician)

Nice!

[kingrat]

Originally Posted by does it ALL outdoors

Right on, couldn't agree more.

I've posted this here a few times, well worth the watch

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbxOFcvC4U

Wow, unreal.

[Drewski Canuck]

There has been escapement for years and years from the Salmon farm industry.

Reason we use Atlantic Salmon is they are more tolerant of disease, warm water, crowding, faster growing, etc.

for all the escapement there has been no establishment of a population of Atlantic Salmon in any of the Coastal rivers. These have been monitored at length and no reproduction has been identified as a returning population.

Thing about Atlantics, like Steelhead, they can spawn and go back out and continue to grow to spawn yet again. Huge advantage, as there are adults returning. But alas, its not happening anyway.

On the point that is being made about collapse of fish stocks world wide, and the reason for over fishing being overpopulation, yes, you are right. the Oceans are our sewer, our chemical waste dump, our nuclear waste dump (Soviet times) and for many Nations, their biggest source of Protein.

NA, Europe, Australia, are not going to suffer, its the third world that will suffer a fish stock collapse. In the mean time, we continue to see an increase in world populations. We may hit 10 Billion in 20 years time at some projections. We can't fee the 7 Billion here without very intensive agriculture methods, and are at risk of famine of there is a serious crop failure. think what happens when another 3 Billion drop on this rock, and have to be fed and housed.

But tell that to some couple with 8 children living in a Shipping Container in Nairobi, Kenya that they should change their ways. They think they've got it so good, and they're not the problem.

Drewski

[32-40win]

This one was making the rounds on Facebook the other day, Sea shepard sponsored I gather, certainly paints a sad picture of how these places are run;

http://www.seashepherd.org/virus-hun...dia/video.html

[BlackHeart]

Originally Posted by EZM

I think the concern is most related to the potential parasites and other diseases common in farm fish spreading to wild populations. Currently, from what I understand, there is comprehensive monitoring of this regulated industry and they monitor farms for this stuff.

Again, based on what I read ...... I am not "sky is falling" concerned.

I guess if they are monitoring things what could go wrong?

After all it has worked wonderfully to protect our wild deer population in Eastern half of Alberta.