Heading West? Just Don’t!

[surhuntsalot]

Apparently there are still a few individuals who lack the judgement to stay within their household, and keep within their community. A number (be it small) of people have taken the opportunity to head to the West Coast, Terrace and Prince Rupert in the cases I know of, to go fishing. This is causing a huge amount of friction among the locals who don’t want people coming to their community at this time. Not only from Alberta, but from any other community. The problem is that it is much easier to spot “Out of Province” plates, and there has been a lot of negative backlash towards “Albertans”. Not helping the situation are Mayors and MLA’s who are jumping on the Anti-Alberta bandwagon supporting their constituents. Efforts are currently under way to close all fishing to out of province individuals.

When someone shows up on the coast from Alberta, is asked to return to their community until the Covid threat passes, and then they threaten to punch out DFO or law enforcement, it really gives us a bad image. Actions like this (yes it actually happened a couple of days ago) also give the locals, and politicians the fuel they need to enact more restrictive measures that will most likely make this last longer than necessary...

This Covid time will pass, and we will fish again. Just please be patient and stay home for now. I have tirelessly argued in support of Alberta, and community safety, but all it takes is one more Alberta plate to show up in town, and it becomes a loosing battle...

[CBintheNorth]

Good head's up. Thanks.
I'm actually hoping that this is the start of a total B.C. boycott. Resources included, in both directions.

[mac1983]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

Good head's up. Thanks.
I'm actually hoping that this is the start of a total B.C. boycott. Resources included, in both directions.

This all day long, we have supported BC far to long...Just to get despised on in return. This has been going on for 50 years.

[surhuntsalot]

Originally Posted by mac1983

This all day long, we have supported BC far to long...Just to get despised on in return. This has been going on for 50 years.

Best way to deal with them on this issue is first get through this challenging time, Then book a charter with an Alberta based company... They really love that...lol

[1899b]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

Good head's up. Thanks.
I'm actually hoping that this is the start of a total B.C. boycott. Resources included, in both directions.

Yup people that whine about the economy in Alberta but go sledding in Sicamous or fishing off the coast and spend money over their isn’t the most genuine. People need to give their head a shake...

[Jim]

Quite frankly Albertans are getting tired of people in B.C telling Albertans what they can and can’t do. As long as it is legal Albertans are free to travel where ever they want, no matter what the locals want. If the government wants to put a stop to it bring in a law and Alberta will follow suit and stop people from other provinces coming here.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by Jim

Quite frankly Albertans are getting tired of people in B.C telling Albertans what they can and can’t do. As long as it is legal Albertans are free to travel where ever they want, no matter what the locals want. If the government wants to put a stop to it bring in a law and Alberta will follow suit and stop people from other provinces coming here.

Your acting like your 2 years old
There’s a bad virus going around
No one wants to catch it
Listen to the experts and stay home

[JD848]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Your acting like your 2 years old
There’s a bad virus going around
No one wants to catch it
Listen to the experts and stay home

X2 ,Hell why fight over a few fish ,if you break down you can't go near anyone so if the weather turns bad and your stuck out there a guy is putting first responders in a bad spot,to them everyone is sick,so why do this to good people.Only selfish people think like this ,but if s''t hits the fan there the first to cry.

Acting like 2 year olds is just about right.

JD

[WillyOneStyle]

I have a two year old. He is not going to be leaving Alberta until the Covid-19 emergency is over. His four year old brother has agreed to thwart any effort to cross borders.

[huntsfurfish]

Its to bad, but it looks like the government is going to need to step in and limit travel.

People still dont get the unnecessary travel concept or the stay home advice.

Almost all people are inconvenienced by this and we all want to go on with life and fishing.

But fishing will still be there!

And I hope all of you are too!

[waldedw]

Yup it's amazing how many people think that everyone should stay home except them, they think that they are immune to the covid virus when in reality they are just immune to common sense. Stay home no way I'll go where I want whenever I want

[Sneeze]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Listen to the experts and stay home

This is like the global warming debate.... sorry but many experts are questioning the current “lock down” and there is definitely not a scientific consensus that it’s the best way to manage the virus.

[roughneckin]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

This is like the global warming debate.... sorry but many experts are questioning the current “lock down” and there is definitely not a scientific consensus that it’s the best way to manage the virus.

It’s not about managing the virus it’s about managing the impacts on our healthcare system no matter how it moves about. If your not out and about you reduce the risk of exposure.

[Jim]

If you go fishing you can limit the amount of people you have contact with, I’m still going to work everyday interacting with lots of people in the workplace. So there is less risk going fishing than going to work.

If I catch the virus that’s to bad my life isn’t going to be consumed by panicking in my basement having an anxiety attack like some on here. We all have at risk family members and family who work in the health care field.

[boah]

Originally Posted by Jim

If you go fishing you can limit the amount of people you have contact with, I’m still going to work everyday interacting with lots of people in the workplace. So there is less risk going fishing than going to work.

If I catch the virus that’s to bad my life isn’t going to be consumed by panicking in my basement having an anxiety attack like some on here. We all have at risk family members and family who work in the health care field.

This is the problem. It’s not about you. It’s about the people you come in contact as a carrier. About the number of hospital beds that will be taken up by all the people affected by contact with you. Ignorance, Selfishness and stupidity is our enemy.

[MyAlberta]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

This is like the global warming debate.... sorry but many experts are questioning the current “lock down” and there is definitely not a scientific consensus that it’s the best way to manage the virus.

I’ve always said that global warming is a pandemic in slow motion. True, we could carry on as normal, let the virus flash through, take our lumps and move on. Infectious reflections ringing through the populace could be more damaging in the long run. The problem I see, is that without a full commitment, we won’t know if either works, wasted knowledge for the next time.

[Sneeze]

Originally Posted by MyAlberta

I’ve always said that global warming is a pandemic in slow motion. True, we could carry on as normal, let the virus flash through, take our lumps and move on. Infectious reflections ringing through the populace could be more damaging in the long run. The problem I see, is that without a full commitment, we won’t know if either works, wasted knowledge for the next time.

The logic of the lockdown makes sense to me. But... doctors are doctors. Many of us have been there. Go see the doctor for a knee injury or something and his prescription is ten days off work.

Zero regard for the fact you don’t have sick time and in ten days somebody ten years younger than you and $10 an hour cheaper is gonna be sitting in your chair.

Our over-leveraged high debt society simply can’t afford this lockdown. May 1st we better be back to work or the side effects from this treatment will be permanent.

[liar]

there seems to be as many opinions as there are people , and everyone has " the facts" to back their claim . right now , today , in alberta we are being asked to voluntarily stay home . we are still free to move around as we see fit . in California , New York , Italy, India , etc the people are in mandatory lock down . so , in my opinion , we should try and restrict our movements as much as possible while we can but if this thing takes off, we will loose that right and we too will be locked down . if that happens then we have no choice . everyone can go to the dog park or fishing or golfing , i dont care . IF the time comes when we do get locked down , you will of either been part of the problem or part of the solution . for me , getting locked down wont be much of a problem , i have a pretty big yard but for people in cities and towns it may not be much fun , IF it happens . most of us will live to 80 years old . thats roughly 1000 months . 2 to 3 months out of that is not really that much , if it can help you and your neighbours .

[HighlandHeart]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

This is like the global warming debate.... sorry but many experts are questioning the current “lock down” and there is definitely not a scientific consensus that it’s the best way to manage the virus.

Many experts are questioning the current lock down? Can you provide a few links please?

[V_1]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Your acting like your 2 years old
There’s a bad virus going around
No one wants to catch it
Listen to the experts and stay home

Not against the "stay the F home" (at least away from crowds) if you can argument itself, but that 'expert' thing kinda worn out it's trust.
"Masks do more harm than good", "viruses know no borders", "closing up flights from ... is R-word", "its not a pandemic" then "it's a pandemic", "no human to human transmission", "now we define airborne as...so it's sorta airborn but you still don't need a mask"...

[Smoky buck]

Well for those who choose to go out use common sense and respect others

For those who choose to stay home and never leave the house all the best with your mental health

I am done here

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by V_1

Not against the "stay the F home" (at least away from crowds) if you can argument itself, but that 'expert' thing kinda worn out it's trust.
"Masks do more harm than good", "viruses know no borders", "closing up flights from ... is R-word", "its not a pandemic" then "it's a pandemic", "no human to human transmission", "now we define airborne as...so it's sorta airborn but you still don't need a mask"...

Believe me i hear you on this!
They change their mind very often about how this virus travels and how we react to it.
They all still agree on social distancing and not to travel far from home

[boah]

Originally Posted by Jim

Quite frankly Albertans are getting tired of people in B.C telling Albertans what they can and can’t do. As long as it is legal Albertans are free to travel where ever they want, no matter what the locals want. If the government wants to put a stop to it bring in a law and Alberta will follow suit and stop people from other provinces coming here.

Not smart.
Read the news lately?

[HunterDave]

I’m willing to bet that the recreational fishing industry lobbied the BC government hard to keep businesses open. What other explanation could there be? It’s not an essential service yet they are still able to operate. Instead of asking Albertans to not go there, locals should be lobbying their MLA and they in turn should be lobbing the government to close the industry to at least non residents.

[Jamie]

Golf course are still open. Have a group of friends heading out there Tuesday to play. Responsible people doing responsible things in my eyes. Whats the difference between social distancing here and social distancing there. And if the people of BC seem to think they can keep this virus out of their community, they are sadly mistaken. It's coming.... 3 Trips planned this summer for me. Rupert/Sandspit and Bella Bella. If I feel comfortable going I will go, If the season is open, I will go. I fI believe I am safe to go and will be safe to others, I will go. We are under social distancing, not a damn Quarantine....

[boah]

Golf courses are quite large. Easy to keep 6 feet away from others . Fishing boats not so much. I guess if you’re going from one covid hotspot to another it doesn’t matter........ to you. Too bad you don’t give a crap about all the other people around you.

[MyAlberta]

Originally Posted by Jamie

Golf course are still open. Have a group of friends heading out there Tuesday to play. Responsible people doing responsible things in my eyes. Whats the difference between social distancing here and social distancing there. And if the people of BC seem to think they can keep this virus out of their community, they are sadly mistaken. It's coming.... 3 Trips planned this summer for me. Rupert/Sandspit and Bella Bella. If I feel comfortable going I will go, If the season is open, I will go. I fI believe I am safe to go and will be safe to others, I will go. We are under social distancing, not a damn Quarantine....

Marketing failure 101. At a boy, lay it all out.

[surhuntsalot]

Originally Posted by HunterDave

I’m willing to bet that the recreational fishing industry lobbied the BC government hard to keep businesses open. What other explanation could there be? It’s not an essential service yet they are still able to operate. Instead of asking Albertans to not go there, locals should be lobbying their MLA and they in turn should be lobbing the government to close the industry to at least non residents.

Actually the fishery is Closed to Non-residents. Being tidal waters, it is a Federal regulated water, and therefore under the regulations, a Resident, is considered any person from within Canada. There is no designation separating provinces for this fishery. The charter industry voluntarily stopped their operations for a 2-3 month window. The local people don’t want anyone from outside the community coming in, but don’t want their ability to fish stopped. The politicians are pandering to them, simply because those are the very people who elect them. A provincial ban would not complete the objective, and if in a couple months the charter industry were able to safely resume some operations, it would greatly complicate the situation.

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by Jim

Quite frankly Albertans are getting tired of people in B.C telling Albertans what they can and can’t do. As long as it is legal Albertans are free to travel where ever they want, no matter what the locals want. If the government wants to put a stop to it bring in a law and Alberta will follow suit and stop people from other provinces coming here.

Watched the news last night to see beaches still packed with BC people, pretty Ballsy of someone from there to call Albertans stupid.


Grizz

[WinefredCommander]

Originally Posted by Jim

Quite frankly Albertans are getting tired of people in B.C telling Albertans what they can and can’t do. As long as it is legal Albertans are free to travel where ever they want, no matter what the locals want. If the government wants to put a stop to it bring in a law and Alberta will follow suit and stop people from other provinces coming here.

Pretty PATHETIC attitude there. I'm guessing you're not in your 20s or 30s and therefor have a sad ass ignorant attitude like most in that age group. WOW JUST WOW.