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09-07-2017, 12:19 PM
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A day of action!: Make a call, sign a petition for the Highwood Headwaters
I can't think of any circumstances where one could say logging the headwaters of a watershed is sound forestry management.
Today is a day of action; please make a call - took me less than 2 minutes - and let the minister of Agriculture and Forestry that the clear-cutting ought to be stopped, or at least put on hold.
310-0000
https://www.loveyourheadwaters.ca/kananaskis
Thanks,
Smitty
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09-07-2017, 03:12 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: edmonton
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Thanx for posting this.
Petition signed
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09-07-2017, 04:12 PM
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This is Y2Y (Yellowstone to Yukon)
Regardless of thoughts about logging, I cannot and will not support any Y2Y initiative. Their goal is to close ALL access no matter the user group.
Please read up on them before you sign and make an educated and informed decision before just signing because of an alarmist website.
Last edited by Albertadiver; 09-07-2017 at 04:24 PM.
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09-07-2017, 04:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Albertadiver
This is Y2Y (Yellowstone to Yukon)
Regardless of thoughts about logging, I cannot and will not support any Y2Y initiative. Their goal is to close ALL access no matter the user group.
Please read up on them before you sign and make an educated and informed decision before just signing because of an alarmist website.
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Fear mongering cuts both ways. I am well aware of Y2Y initiatives. I do know there name is generally "mud" around here; regardless, I posted anyways, even though I knew I'd get reactions like yours.
Speaking of becoming educated and informed, let's have a look shall we?:
https://y2y.net/about-us/faq
https://y2y.net/about-us/policies/y2...fishing-policy
Nowhere does it say "close ALL access no matter the user group".
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09-07-2017, 04:55 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty9
Fear mongering cuts both ways. I am well aware of Y2Y initiatives. I do know there name is generally "mud" around here; regardless, I posted anyways, even though I knew I'd get reactions like yours.
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I generally support not logging in the headwaters. Just drove through there on The weekend. The logging around plateau mtn is fairly extensive, but it will grow back and I have no concerns there. If it affects a watershed, sure I have concerns.
That being said, Y2Y Isn't going to be a group I could ever support. I encourage all to do their research first. If you are comfortable with your review of the organization then I'll respectfully disagree. I will agree with you that conservation is important.
Thx
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09-07-2017, 06:34 PM
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Location: Claresholm, Ab
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Never figured you for a conspiracy theorist Diver. Btw I've done my research.
And my view on clearcut logging? Fire or clearcuts, take your pick. Neither are very pretty and logging is easier to control
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10-24-2017, 08:56 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Uh, guess? :)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Albertadiver
Regardless of thoughts about logging, I cannot and will not support any Y2Y initiative.
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Sooo, if you found out Clifford Olson voted for a particular political party, does that mean you would automatically refuse to? I think the better course of action is to look at the particulars of the issue and decide, not on who might support it.
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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate
In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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10-24-2017, 09:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Okotokian
Sooo, if you found out Clifford Olson voted for a particular political party, does that mean you would automatically refuse to? I think the better course of action is to look at the particulars of the issue and decide, not on who might support it.
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Hey Oki,
It's pretty clear on this thread that folks have differing opinions, which is allowed from time to time. My personal opinion is that Y2Y is not good for Alberta. I know folks will disagree, but that's my belief.
Given the fires we had this summer, I'd rather see logging than something totally out of control.
Not sure why our bud pipco decided to bump the thread after a month or so other than to maybe do a little pot stirring?
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10-25-2017, 08:10 AM
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Location: edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Albertadiver
Hey Oki,
It's pretty clear on this thread that folks have differing opinions, which is allowed from time to time. My personal opinion is that Y2Y is not good for Alberta. I know folks will disagree, but that's my belief.
Given the fires we had this summer, I'd rather see logging than something totally out of control.
Not sure why our bud pipco decided to bump the thread after a month or so other than to maybe do a little pot stirring?
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You're right. Stir the pot. Debate, discussion and action is how change happens.
Also to voice an opinion. I've been reading the Y2Y newsletters for months and have not come across any indication of what I originally called "conspiracy theory hogwash." earlier in the thread.
From what I've read these folks want to preserve natural areas, stop large corporations from destroying watersheds and forests, not ban people from using them.
I'll stick to my guns on the conspiracy theory hog wash. We're all entitled to an opinion. It's never a bad idea to do a bit of research (with what we can best determine to be reliable, unbiased sources) before forming one.
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09-10-2017, 06:01 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Y2Y - why sTo bad?
This sounds like a good cause to me, so I was surprised to hear all the vitriol surrounding Y2Y. Try as I may, I can't find *ANYTHING* credible on the internet that supports the bold negative allegations some posters are making about them. Is this all just "Trump"-ed up fear mongering, or is there actually some credible proof that Y2Y is out to blockade the wilderness from all of us hunters and fishermen? Seems like some sketchy allegations being made here...
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