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10-21-2017, 07:23 AM
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Unknown Bird Help!!!
I was fishing the NSR the other day out by Genesee.
I heard a few crows bothering a bigger bird and looked up to see 3 crows after a Big, black, like a silhouette, large bird, about 3 times the wingspan of the big crows, probably as large as a very large eagle. There were no markings of any kind on the bird other than the under-wings of this large bird had large white circles identical to the Jap. zero's red circles on the wings during WW2.
So to describe it, it was a very large, totally black, except for the large white circles on the under-wings.
I've tried to find it on the net and have come up empty.
Can anyone tell me what this bird is??
Thanks for looking. 
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10-21-2017, 07:43 AM
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10-21-2017, 08:29 AM
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Golden eagle.
There dark but not black.
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10-21-2017, 08:29 AM
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Probably a vulture! There’s a few of them around and are big birds. There was one hanging around the nsr just upstream from Devon last year. Drove past him in my boat was cool to see.
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10-21-2017, 08:36 AM
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Pic of golden eagle in flight.
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10-21-2017, 09:53 AM
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Immature Bald Eagles have lots of white. Tons of Turkey Vultures nowadays; but since you say there were white patches that were defined I would guess Osprey, especially being right on the NSR
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10-21-2017, 09:59 AM
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Thanks for the replys
Definitely none of the mentioned.
I've seen all of the birds mentioned and can recognize then.
The closest is the golden eagle, however there was no other white on the bird other than the white spots. These were complete white circles about mid-wing.
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10-21-2017, 10:19 AM
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Sounds to me like the Rough Legged Hawk. They are huge, young of the year are dark and with an off white underwing patch plus this time of year they are quite common as they are migrating through. In flight their wingspan looks as big as any of the eagles. I have lots around my place this time of year. Maybe yes? Maybe no?
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10-21-2017, 10:52 AM
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From your description I think you saw an immature golden eagle.
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10-21-2017, 10:57 AM
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10-21-2017, 12:18 PM
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And just to throw a wrench into this discussion, are you sure they were crows? Crows here have been gone now for at least a month.....
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10-21-2017, 02:47 PM
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Use this to help you find out what bird it was.
https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/browse
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10-21-2017, 02:52 PM
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another rough leg guess
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10-25-2017, 08:34 PM
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Both vultures and Rough Legged Hawks are only a little bigger then a Crow.
Bald and Golden Eagles are close to twice the wingspan of a Crow, some may be more then twice the wingspan.
Immature Golden Eagles often have white patches on the underside of the wrist of the wing. But this patch is quiet variable and may be be present at all.
Immature Bald Eagles have extensive white underneath in their first year, and less in subsequent years, but it tends to be irregular parches and a lot more extensive the on immature Goldens.
My guess is a immature Golden Eagle.
We still have a few Crows up here
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10-25-2017, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KegRiver
Both vultures and Rough Legged Hawks are only a little bigger then a Crow.Bald and Golden Eagles are close to twice the wingspan of a Crow, some may be more then twice the wingspan.
Immature Golden Eagles often have white patches on the underside of the wrist of the wing. But this patch is quiet variable and may be be present at all.Immature Bald Eagles have extensive white underneath in their first year, and less in subsequent years, but it tends to be irregular parches and a lot more extensive the on immature Goldens.My guess is a immature Golden EagleWe still have a few Crowsuphere
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You must have some big ass crows where you live.
http://aep.alberta.ca/fish-wildlife/...y-vulture.aspx
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10-26-2017, 06:10 AM
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I think by crow he more than likely meant raven. It's a common mistake. We don't get many crows up as far north as I am but lots of people still call ravens crows.
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10-26-2017, 08:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TylerThomson
I think by crow he more than likely meant raven. It's a common mistake. We don't get many crows up as far north as I am but lots of people still call ravens crows.
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They must have some big ass ravens up there!
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10-26-2017, 09:03 AM
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Thanks guys but I still can't identify the bird.
The bird is black with the silhouette of an eagle but unlike the eagle,
this bird has 1 white circle on the underside of each wing.
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10-26-2017, 09:31 AM
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I saw some type of vulture near Viking. Pretty big bird, feeding on a deer road kill in the ditch. That's the only one I have seen.
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10-26-2017, 10:34 AM
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They must have some big ass ravens up there!
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Yup... I don't recall seeing any 30" long with 6' wing spans lately.
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10-26-2017, 10:48 PM
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unlike you fellas I'm not an expert so I rely heavily on my library of bird identification books.
I have never personally measured the wingspan or body length of any bird.
My bird books tell me this;
Crow, WS 39" Lngth 17.5"
Rough Legged Hawk WS 53" Lngth 21"
Raven WS 53" Lngth 24"
Vulture WS 67" Lngth 25"
That gives a RLH only 4" greater WS then a Crow
And puts a Raven only slightly bigger then the hawk
It also places the Vulture at only 1/5 bigger then the Hawk and 50 percent bigger then the Crow.
Compared to either eagle my books show a much wider difference.
Bald Eagle WS 80" Lngth 31"
Golden Eagle WS 79" Lngth 30"
I wish I were an expert like you guys. I promise I will never again offer an opinion based on my research.
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