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07-27-2009, 12:58 PM
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A splake is a brook trout crossed with a laker. So is there brookies in this lake?
Still, because of it's grey color, it's a laker. Don't think it's a splake. Definitely not a bull.
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07-27-2009, 01:13 PM
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Looks like a nice big fish to me  Laker.
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07-27-2009, 01:31 PM
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it is not a splake as it doesn't have the worm markings of a brookie, i have caught lots of splake and i would say no to splake as for a lake trout i would have to agree as it has a fork tail but on the other hand i have heard of some lakes it is really hard to tell the bulls from the lakers,........but still i would say laker
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07-27-2009, 01:41 PM
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looks like a dolly varden to me, a member of the char family.
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07-27-2009, 01:46 PM
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yeah mustang is right , sorry sometimes brookies are called speckled trout .
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07-27-2009, 01:49 PM
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IMO this is a Laker/Bull trout hybrid. Don't know how common this is but caught one similar in Minnewanka some years ago. My opinion.
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07-27-2009, 02:16 PM
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What kind
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07-27-2009, 02:25 PM
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Black Bear.
laker =Char.
No experience with them yet but would it be easier to tell by the mouth?
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07-27-2009, 02:59 PM
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My thoughts.. Laker maybe , Brookie no , Splake possible ,haven't seen enough of them..Any bull trout or Dolly in this fish I don't think so ...
I have seen many fish in my days but just not sure on this one.
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07-27-2009, 03:17 PM
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Laker, best cooked with dill, onions and garlic in butter, slowly cooked on the BBQ till flesh falls off the bone. Best served with a chilled beverage by the fire off a cedar plank.
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07-27-2009, 04:27 PM
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Quote:
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Laker, best cooked with dill, onions and garlic in butter, slowly cooked on the BBQ till flesh falls off the bone. Best served with a chilled beverage by the fire off a cedar plank.
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Amen Brother..Amen.
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Definitely not a Bull. Speckling on dorsal, deeply forked tail.
This has the hallmarks of char - white spots, but coloration of a brook - as the white fin edges and colour are a brook offering.
If I had to wager a dollar - I'd say it's a splake... Brook / Arctic Char hybrid.
In particular : Salvelinus fontinalis X namaycush
See: http://www.jjphoto.dk/fish_archive/f...ter/splake.htm
Actually - I'll pseudopay the buck... That tail fork messes up that possibility...
Lake trout / Arctic Char Hybrid Looks about right. (See lake trout hybrid at: http://www.laketrout.org/tiger-trout.htm)
More like: Savelinus namaycush X alpinus
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Last edited by Scratch; 07-27-2009 at 04:34 PM.
Reason: Doubletake - paying my buck for being wrong on the first impression.
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07-27-2009, 05:00 PM
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I would have to say anybody that has fished splake would have to say that is no splake......i bet the guy who posted this is giggling as he hasn't told us were it came from and that hopefully will settle the arguement unless it is a lake that has lakers and bull trout then somebody will argue it is a cross.......if i remember right the guy who posted this is from around calgary i bet it came from minuakua.hummmmmmmmmm
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07-27-2009, 05:16 PM
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07-27-2009, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
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 I was just going to say,, Looks like a supper fish to me...
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07-27-2009, 05:37 PM
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Honestly I am not sure what species. My first instinct was it was laker but I have not caught many of those. It may be a lake mixed with something.
Where it was caught would not help..trust me on that.
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07-27-2009, 06:09 PM
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Sturgeon fo sure - 20- 25 #s I'm thinking?
Jus kiddn - likely laker, or splaker, or speckled odd.
Could b sturg though 
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07-27-2009, 08:58 PM
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if it was caught in the great lakes in ontario its a slake if not please give me back my laker , i lost the little guy when he was just 6 but know the he is 22 or so it would be an awesome family reunion.
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07-27-2009, 09:33 PM
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the word is, wait I'll go real slow for you-"L I C E N S E", PROBALY JUST A DUMB Boilermaker
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Well in my opinion all that occured here is a whole bunch of confusion for anyone that is learning how to ID trout based on there markings. Many of you should be proud of yourselves!!
We all know that it can be difficult in closly related species of fish such as char (arctic char, bull trout, brook trout, lake trout and dolly varden)
I am by no means an expert but from those photo's it's next to impossible to be sure. I don't see ANY markings on that dorsal!!!!!!! That should indicate BULL TROUT. Of course a deeply forked tail is supposed to indicate laker but another fish could bite a fork in the tail so I personal would take the lack of spots to be the best indicator. Better safe than sorry, not that I would keep it either way just why take a chance on a fish that is causing ID grief. But if I took the photo you could be assured that I would be taking a close up of the DORSAL fin! I did it just a few weeks ago as evidence of a bull and a brookie being pulled from the same hole.
From my understanding the lack of spots on the dorsal means BULL trout. It's possible that Dollys may have no black on the dorsal also just as bulls because from my understanding they are the most closly related. I was once told dollys and bulls are the same species just one is on the east slopes the other on the west slopes. Any truth to the slopes thing? on bulls versus dolly?
I wouldn't doubt that it could be a hybrid. But not a splake, fairly certain splake are a brookie lake trout hybrid. The "sp" comes from speckle as in speckled trout ie BROOKIE. and gues what!! the "lake" part comes from laker dontcha know. put the "sp" and the "lake" and ya get SPLAKE!! and this if coming from an Albertan born boy where we have no splake and I have no cable. Thought you all had WFN.
If it were a hybrid I'd think bull-laker or laker-bull. No way to be sure. But most the hybrids occur with brookies. Brookies must be really horney or fertile or sumthing. From my understanding Tiger trout are a brookie-brown cross!! how a trout and char mate successfully is beyond me.
I'd never put a 100% on what species that fish is. but id put 80% on bull because I cant see ANY markings on that dorsal. It's a char for sure I'm not up to speed on arctic char or Dolly Varden markings though. It would be nice to know where this fish was caught. If it wasn't in Alberta then it should have been stated in the original message to save super confusion.
So where was it caught??
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A splake is a brook trout crossed with a laker. So is there brookies in this lake?
Still, because of it's grey color, it's a laker. Don't think it's a splake. Definitely not a bull.
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Why is it that this is "DEFINITELY" not a bull?
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07-27-2009, 10:52 PM
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Maybe it just me but I see markings on the dorsal fin suggesting laker. Don't look like any bull I've ever caught but sure looks like some of the lakers I've caught.
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07-27-2009, 10:54 PM
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I'm not denying that it looks like a laker. But I see no black spots on that dorsal.
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07-27-2009, 10:57 PM
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Well based on the first photo I can see markings the second photo doesn't display the characteristics one way or the other. Another feature is the jaw which extends past the eye. Best I can do with the photos provided, and without having been present cannot confirm anything 100%
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07-27-2009, 11:05 PM
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Thanks for all the suggestions..
I will only say that the fish was caught in Alberta.
It maybe a new species...lol...
I wished I had taken more photos.. I will do more research but will try to get a few more... Perhaps it was many generations ago it was a splake but over time the Laker has kicked in. Notice the color of the gums
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07-27-2009, 11:10 PM
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Thats so far from a bull trout thats not even funny .
Here top one Bull trout
Bottom Lake trout .
And fish in question .
If you cant tell the diffrence I might suggest takeing an outdoor education training course .
Better click on that link .
http://www.aheia.com/cart_builder.cfm?Category=0
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lol i've never caught them and i didnt see any signs of a bull trout.....
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07-27-2009, 11:17 PM
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Here's the best Dorsal shot I could get..
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07-27-2009, 11:18 PM
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Not a boilermaker, so, what do you do for a living that elevates you above everyone else?
Oh, and its spelt P-R-O-B-A-B-L-Y
Walking pretty tall for a guy with a dozen posts.
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