AR advice

nelsonob1 · #1 11-22-2017, 10:01 PM

I am thinking of getting my first tactical style rifle but no zero bout them and hoping for advice.

I have a restricted licence but why are some rifles NR and others restricted? What makes them restricted.

I would prefer NR so that I can shoot on crown property.

I have been looking at AR15 Colt and Norinco. Would anyone have a recommendation on type, make and model.

Thank you.

elkhunter11 · #2 11-22-2017, 10:24 PM

There does not appear to be any common sense where the firearms classifications are concerned. Any AR-15 or AR-15 clone is restricted, while other firearms that operate very similarly and shoot the same cartridge, but look slightly different, may be non restricted.

IR_mike · #3 11-23-2017, 01:25 AM

I think there are still a few s&w mp15's http://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms...i-co-compliant kicking around in the $700ish price range at various canadian retailers.

J0HN_R1 · #4 11-23-2017, 01:26 AM

Made in Cananda, non-restricted, most owners report MOA or better, looks almost identical to an AR-15 but weighs a bit more, & costs $2750...

https://albertatacticalrifle.com/hik...oduct/cid-8519

DiabeticKripple · #5 11-23-2017, 02:41 AM

Try and grab a BCL 102. It’s an AR102 so it’s a .308 but it’s NR and $1750

Deasoninc · #6 11-23-2017, 07:10 AM

I to just got the bug to get into an AR platform. I just picked this one up last night https://www.cabelas.ca/product/10220...tactical-rifle It has great reviews and is very economical. I wanted a bare bones AR to build up myself. There is a few nice ones in the For sale section as well that are already built .

shell_guy · #7 11-23-2017, 07:37 AM

All AR Platform rifles are restricted, there are a variety of non-restricted black style rifles available in Canada that are non-restricted but they do not have universally exchangeable AR components, these include:

Robinson Arms XCR
Bushmaster ACR
Tavor
ATRS Modern Hunter

Newview01 · #8 11-23-2017, 09:07 AM

I have an AR for sale in buy and sell. Smith and Wesson first gen. Paid $1680 new at wholesale sports.

Anybody know why the second gen that is available at Cabelas is half the price? Mine does have a heavy barrel. And comes with 2 different stocks from the factory, but I just can't figure it out.

J0HN_R1 · #9 11-23-2017, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Newview01

I have an AR for sale in buy and sell. Smith and Wesson first gen. Paid $1680 new at wholesale sports.

I almost bought a "Refurbished" M&P 15 at Wholesale the day they announced the Closing Sale.

$500 (maybe $550) was the price on the tag. When I passed it up, the guy standing behind me immediately proclaimed "I'LL TAKE IT !"...

play.soccer · #10 11-23-2017, 09:25 AM

IRUNGUNS has PSA AR15s for cheap.

play.soccer · #11 11-23-2017, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Newview01

I have an AR for sale in buy and sell. Smith and Wesson first gen. Paid $1680 new at wholesale sports.

Anybody know why the second gen that is available at Cabelas is half the price? Mine does have a heavy barrel. And comes with 2 different stocks from the factory, but I just can't figure it out.

Cause they were cheap in the states and mass produced in case killary won. When she didn't people bought less guns.

fish_e_o · #12 11-23-2017, 09:29 AM

i just bought a mini14 target.

with 55gr remington umc the results were a 2-3" group. with 55gr sbk's (loaded for another rifle) i got this. so far i'm pretty happy because i had no expectations other than to have a gong smasher.

i've already got 200+ rounds down the tube and i got it less than a week ago

this weekend i get to see how it likes 60gr bergers and 75gr bergers

play.soccer · #13 11-23-2017, 12:10 PM

Macabee defense and ATRS out of Calgary and BCL out of Ontario are making NR rifles similar to AR15s as well.

Newview01 · #14 11-23-2017, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by J0HN_R1

I almost bought a "Refurbished" M&P 15 at Wholesale the day they announced the Closing Sale.

$500 (maybe $550) was the price on the tag. When I passed it up, the guy standing behind me immediately proclaimed "I'LL TAKE IT !"...

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Originally Posted by play.soccer

Cause they were cheap in the states and mass produced in case killary won. When she didn't people bought less guns.

Very disappointing news.

I sure would like to see my AR go.

nelsonob1 · #15 11-23-2017, 10:01 PM

Thx guys.

Ordered a M&P 15 for $600 from the local gun shop (couldn't resist price. Owner said he ordered a dozen and they sold in 3 days, but 5 more coming next week.

Whilst I was there I looked at a JR carbine 45acp (NR) which I think ill pick up tomorrow.

Chargerguy · #16 11-23-2017, 10:12 PM

I like the idea of the Maccabee Defense, but I'm looking even more forward to the NR matched upper/lower ATRS is working on.

DiabeticKripple · #17 11-25-2017, 03:42 AM

My only gripe with the ATRS is you can’t mess with it without voiding the warranty.

The Maccabee is way overpriced IMO. $1000 for a receiver????

Unregistered user · #18 11-25-2017, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by nelsonob1

Thx guys.

Ordered a M&P 15 for $600 from the local gun shop (couldn't resist price. Owner said he ordered a dozen and they sold in 3 days, but 5 more coming next week.

Whilst I was there I looked at a JR carbine 45acp (NR) which I think ill pick up tomorrow.

Great price.

play.soccer · #19 11-25-2017, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple

My only gripe with the ATRS is you can’t mess with it without voiding the warranty.

The Maccabee is way overpriced IMO. $1000 for a receiver????

ATRS is making a receiver only and it's gonna be priced similar.

Or course they're only making it because completion is heating up and they're no longer the one NR black rifle AR lookalike manufacturer.

sikwhiskey · #20 11-25-2017, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple

My only gripe with the ATRS is you can’t mess with it without voiding the warranty.

The Maccabee is way overpriced IMO. $1000 for a receiver????

That is for both upper and lower stripped receivers, I believe anyway. Not to bad if someone was to buy a budget AR, strip it and put the parts into the Macb. NR black gun for under 2k. Or for people like me that already have many parts laying around, 1k and I have a new gopher/coyote rifle.

Savage Bacon · #21 12-12-2017, 05:29 PM

I got a mini 14 and I haven't had any issues with it. The 556 ammo seems to be priced a bit cheaper. I bought a used tactical stock off of kijiji for 40 bucks. Next purchase will be an AR style scope. I like the fact that this rifle looks tactical but isn't restricted.

darren32 · #22 12-12-2017, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple

Try and grab a BCL 102. It’s an AR102 so it’s a .308 but it’s NR and $1750

Good write up in the latest Calibre magazine on that one.

DiabeticKripple · #23 12-12-2017, 06:26 PM

The only major I have seen so far is that the gas rings are wearing because of poor machining. I hope that since BCL took over NEA after the first batch, and bought new CNC machines, that the machining issues are gone for this batch.

My rifle will be here Friday. I can’t wait.

darren32 · #24 12-12-2017, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple

The only major I have seen so far is that the gas rings are wearing because of poor machining. I hope that since BCL took over NEA after the first batch, and bought new CNC machines, that the machining issues are gone for this batch.

My rifle will be here Friday. I can’t wait.

I bet

Let us know how it goes please!!

Smokinyotes · #25 12-12-2017, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple

The only major I have seen so far is that the gas rings are wearing because of poor machining. I hope that since BCL took over NEA after the first batch, and bought new CNC machines, that the machining issues are gone for this batch.

My rifle will be here Friday. I can’t wait.

When did you order it?

DiabeticKripple · #26 12-12-2017, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

When did you order it?

August 3rd, 1:33pm black one.