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11-06-2019, 09:31 AM
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antique tool identification
Can anyone tell me what this is?
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11-06-2019, 09:54 AM
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Just a guess
A knife sharpener missing the grind stone
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11-06-2019, 12:51 PM
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I have no idea but I'm curious, looks like it bolts to the side or top of a work bench. Does the bottom circular deal turn with the handle?
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11-06-2019, 01:10 PM
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Without scale it is a bit tough.
Roll crimper?
How big is it?
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11-06-2019, 01:13 PM
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I am going to guess it is a cam of some sort. Perhaps to close a heavy door or gate.
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11-06-2019, 03:37 PM
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I think its a hold down clamp from some old time line production system, maybe used in wood work where there would be several of these clamps used to lock down a piece of work before machining operations could proceed. Just a guess though. D.H.
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11-06-2019, 03:38 PM
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Clock spring winder ? Looks like it's made for winding something flat .
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11-06-2019, 05:21 PM
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What is it
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Originally Posted by saskbooknut
Without scale it is a bit tough.
Roll crimper?
How big is it?
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I'm pretty sure that it is an antique roll crimper.
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11-06-2019, 06:20 PM
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Seems to me there was one in the old blacksmith shop a mile from home.
I didn't know what it was for back then and still don't.
I do recall something about it being part of something else but I don't remember now if that was the speculation at the time or something someone who knew more then we did, told us.
So I wonder if it was some sort of tightening device on some piece of equipment.
Kinda like the door latches on a delivery truck. But in reverse.
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11-06-2019, 08:40 PM
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That’s a ” hornikator “. Most certainly a Hornikator.
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11-07-2019, 05:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cow Town Bill
I'm pretty sure that it is an antique roll crimper.
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Nope they do not look like that
On vintage roll crumpets there is always a short lever to put pressure on the shell from the bottom or a screw and the cap always enclosed the top of the shell
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11-07-2019, 06:46 AM
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Looks like a tool to make decorative wrought iron pieces.
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11-07-2019, 10:55 AM
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Sorry guys the tool is not mine, the picture was sent to me for identification because I love old tools.
I cant give a scale although here are some of my thoughts,
The handle in order to be turned would mean the mount plate would be at the edge of a board or table.
It also looks like the "drum" is holding the mount plate off the table so I would say it needs to be mounted on a 2x6 board or something similar.
I like the idea of rolling a design on the end of wrought iron or steel for decoration, the question I have with that is why the small handle? wouldn't you need more leverage? even the taper of the drum would be good for keeping the steel in the drum.
I see there is some paint splashed on it, that might be relevant and it might not. I searched for some old paint cans and such but didn't see anything definite. I was thinking maybe something to open the top of a large paint can.
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11-07-2019, 11:37 AM
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a lock down mechanism for a vessel or container of some kind ? like a trunk hasp that tightens as you turn it ?
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11-07-2019, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by liar
a lock down mechanism for a vessel or container of some kind ? like a trunk hasp that tightens as you turn it ?
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I also thought some sort of lock down system but I was thinking more along the line of some impliment component lockdown. Like perhaps the sives in screening plant of some sort.
For locking down lids or hatches a simple toggle lever would work better I think.
Either way I think some sort of lock down makes the most sense. To me at least.
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11-07-2019, 02:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sheep
Sorry guys the tool is not mine, the picture was sent to me for identification because I love old tools.
I cant give a scale although here are some of my thoughts,
The handle in order to be turned would mean the mount plate would be at the edge of a board or table.
It also looks like the "drum" is holding the mount plate off the table so I would say it needs to be mounted on a 2x6 board or something similar.
I like the idea of rolling a design on the end of wrought iron or steel for decoration, the question I have with that is why the small handle? wouldn't you need more leverage? even the taper of the drum would be good for keeping the steel in the drum.
I see there is some paint splashed on it, that might be relevant and it might not. I searched for some old paint cans and such but didn't see anything definite. I was thinking maybe something to open the top of a large paint can.
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I've done a fair bit of metal fabrication over the years. For common flat iron pieces one would need at least a two foot long handle.
It would probibly be enough for 16 gauge brass though.
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11-07-2019, 06:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
Clock spring winder ? Looks like it's made for winding something flat .
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Thinking similar to you, I'll make a WAD and say recoil spring winder used to compress roll thin flat spring steel so it can be inserted into things like pull start engines, measuring tapes, that use that type of spring.
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11-07-2019, 08:08 PM
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My guess is it was for wrought iron curls too.
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11-07-2019, 11:32 PM
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My guess is it was for wrought iron curls too.
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To me the spring winder makes more sense.
For one, this thing wouldn't provide enough leverage plus those curls can be made with a simple slit cut in the end of a 2 inch pipe and a pipe wrench, I've done it.
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11-07-2019, 11:38 PM
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Another ting that makes me wonder if the clock spring theory is correct is the size of the spring in some old clocks. They would have been an absolute bear to wind by hand.
In fact the more I think on it the more I like that theory.
My guess was some sort of locking device but a coil spring winder makes more sense to me now that I think about it.
Any tool meant for making curls should have some way of indexing it so that multiple coils would be identical. This thing does not appear to have any such thing.
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11-07-2019, 11:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KegRiver
To me the spring winder makes more sense.
For one, this thing wouldn't provide enough leverage plus those curls can be made with a simple slit cut in the end of a 2 inch pipe and a pipe wrench, I've done it.
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My guess was a long shot.
I did go online too and found one site to look at and found someone in Ontario that has the best collection of vintage manual hand tools for sale so thanks to the OP for making me look for his tool. Sadly, I didn't see the OP's tool on the site. https://www.letoolman.com/antique---vintage-tools.html
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11-08-2019, 12:28 AM
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I think my guess is a long shot as well.
I expect if we ever find out what it really is we will all say, I never thought of that! LOL
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11-08-2019, 12:30 AM
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You know what it does remind me of? The tying mechanism on dads old binder. Only that was much smaller and it was driven by the machine, not by hand. And it worked in conjuntion with a lot of other parts, some big some small.
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11-18-2019, 10:22 AM
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Thanks for the comments. I will see if I can see the piece in person one day and get some better pics. You would think there should be some signs of use somewhere that might help with identification.
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11-18-2019, 01:19 PM
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I showed my dad he thought it could be a latch for a window or gate
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11-18-2019, 06:50 PM
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Russian fishing reel
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11-18-2019, 07:14 PM
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It's a clamp of some sort.
Bolt it to your workbench, and it will hold a piece of material against the bench.
That's what I figure at least.
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11-18-2019, 08:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
It's a clamp of some sort.
Bolt it to your workbench, and it will hold a piece of material against the bench.
That's what I figure at least.
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I agree. Except, I think it goes on the wall and the weight of the object holds itself in until the handle is turned to open it up. Leatherwork maybe.
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