How do you Feel About Handgun Restrictions?

[Classic_Cool]

I'm sure there's an opinion or two

Personally I'd be into buying a handgun for using down at the range and for taking into the woods for self-defense.

Under the law though I can either keep the gun at the range where I can't appreciate it or I can keep it at home where I can appreciate it but not use it and never the twain shall meet. And also I can't take it in the woods either. Kinda takes the "fun" out of it.

Now by fun I don't mean swaggering around in public talking like Dirty Harry and using it to open beer cans; I'm not an idiot. Just feels to me like the spirit is gone. Know what I mean?

I think that handguns and their use should be kept as is. We have enough problems with crooks and whackos having access to rifles and such.
Handguns are too easy to conceal and our law enforcement agencies would be under increased threat pulling over any vehicles.

Again, its not the sportsman that would ruin things........

[Redfrog]

To put it simply, you can't be trusted. Sorry but that's the way it is. Can't be trusted.

[Rock Doctor]

I have 7 handguns, and take them out to the range whenever I want. Permit needs to be renewed annually. I can also take them to ranges out of town if I have an invitation.
My dad had the " prospecting permit ", but was only good if he was on one of his claims. Could not be out looking for a claim, or staking with it. Handgun had to be locked up while traveling to and from claims.

RD

[Classic_Cool]

Well I'm not pro-whacko but as it is the guns aren't illegal to buy and the actual criminals are more or less on the honor system to not conceal them in public.

[Classic_Cool]

Originally Posted by Rock Doctor

I have 7 handguns, and take them out to the range whenever I want. Permit needs to be renewed annually. I can also take them to ranges out of town if I have an invitation.
My dad had the " prospecting permit ", but was only good if he was on one of his claims. Could not be out looking for a claim, or staking with it. Handgun had to be locked up while traveling to and from claims.

RD

Was my understanding that you needed a permit each and every time you transported a handgun somewhere. Maybe I have some bad information.

[Rod1960]

Should be no different than non restricted.

My Long term ATT is good for 4 years. ?? You need a short term ATT for the initial purchase to bring it home or to or from the post office to ship/recieve.

[BGSH]

even with the laws people are still going to be walking walmart,sobeys,mcdonalds with there 22 any law doesnt stop people from carrying a weapon

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by BBBB

I think that handguns and their use should be kept as is. We have enough problems with crooks and whackos having access to rifles and such.
Handguns are too easy to conceal and our law enforcement agencies would be under increased threat pulling over any vehicles.

Again, its not the sportsman that would ruin things........

Do you really think a criminal gives a rat's patoot if a gun is restricted or legal?

Perhaps the criminals should be targetted by Law Enforcement.

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by BBBB

I think that handguns and their use should be kept as is. We have enough problems with crooks and whackos having access to rifles and such.
Handguns are too easy to conceal and our law enforcement agencies would be under increased threat pulling over any vehicles.

Again, its not the sportsman that would ruin things........

I hope your tongue is firmly in your cheek. With proper regulations, there is no legitimate reason we shouldn't be allowed to carry handguns in the Bush, or to the range without getting a permit. Downtown Calgary, not so. Same old story, penalize the law abiding citizens in a vain attempt to achieve some social aim. Our gun laws were supposedly modeled on Germany's, but there's are more liberal in several ways.

Grizz

[pickrel pat]

If a criminal wants a handgun, HE WILL GET A HANDGUN! If Joe average wants a handgun for defence in the bush and plinking, HE WILL NOT GET A HANDGUN! that being said, is it really neccesary for all the red tape? Its very easy for a criminal to obtain a handgun. the red tape only hinders the decent folk.

[Scott N]

Personally, I think that if I'm in an area where I can carry a non-restricted firearm, I should also be able to carry (open carry) a restricted firearm. Since I don't intend to use either in a criminal manor, what difference does it make if it's a rifle or shotgun (far more powerful than your average handgun), or a more portable revolver or pistol?

I think they should make it easier to get the so-called "wilderness" carry permits for handguns. These are NOT the guns being used in crime, and to infer that I might somehow be a danger to the public just because I own and wish to use a handgun in a legal manor is insulting.

[fear 666]

Originally Posted by BBBB

I think that handguns and their use should be kept as is. We have enough problems with crooks and whackos having access to rifles and such. Handguns are too easy to conceal and our law enforcement agencies would be under increased threat pulling over any vehicles.Again, its not the sportsman that would ruin things........

I don't agree. You seem to think handguns are evil and turn law abiding people into dangerous people. Why would cops be more in danger at traffic stops, you saying people who legally buy them (have no record) are going to point them at a cop or make a problem. They would be in the vehicle under the same circumstances as a rifle or shotgun (going or coming back from shooting, no other time), so what's the difference? Wackos and crooks already get their handguns illegally, so why would they go to a store and buy one. Again don't see how that adds to it.

I say handguns you should need a restricted license with ADVANCED training where you could shoot them at ranges, in the woods, or carrying for self defence while hiking, shooting on your own property. If they did this l would be fine with a handgun registry just to keep an extra eye on them even though they would be used in the same way as any other gun. They may be a more of a target for criminals to break into your house and steal them, but that is why we have safes for proper storage, so what would be the difference in that threat be now or if the laws were looser?

If l remember correctly l thought l read somewhere last year that in all of Canada less then 10 people died from registered handguns. Not sure though thought l read that.

Ah yes, the freedom to bear arms, wake up guys!
The more available handguns are, the chances of them being in the wrong hands increases. Yes criminals can get whatever they want, but lets not make things easier. Easier access to handguns means that criminals will have a better selection.
Have a look at the issues in the US because of this so called right.
As I stated, its not the average sportsman that ruins things, but easier access and less regulation IMO would be ludicrous.

Watch a few COPS re-runs and see the low life gang bangers that are all packing like the old West. Better yet........ask a few law enforcement officers what their thoughts are??

Gun Deaths - International Comparisons
Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated):

Homicide Suicide Other (inc Accident)

USA (2001) 3.98 5.92 0.36
Italy (1997) 0.81 1.1 0.07
Switzerland (1998) 0.50 5.8 0.10
Canada (2002) 0.4 2.0 0.04
Finland (2003) 0.35 4.45 0.10
Australia (2001) 0.24 1.34 0.10
France (2001) 0.21 3.4 0.49
England/Wales (2002) 0.15 0.2 0.03
Scotland (2002) 0.06 0.2 0.02
Japan (2002) 0.02 0.04 0

[fear 666]

Originally Posted by BBBB

Ah yes, the freedom to bear arms, wake up guys!
The more available handguns are, the chances of them being in the wrong hands increases. Yes criminals can get whatever they want, but lets not make things easier. Easier access to handguns means that criminals will have a better selection.
Have a look at the issues in the US because of this so called right.
As I stated, its not the average sportsman that ruins things, but easier access and less regulation IMO would be ludicrous.

Watch a few COPS re-runs and see the low life gang bangers that are all packing like the old West. Better yet........ask a few law enforcement officers what their thoughts are??

Gun Deaths - International Comparisons
Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated):

Homicide Suicide Other (inc Accident)

USA (2001) 3.98 5.92 0.36
Italy (1997) 0.81 1.1 0.07
Switzerland (1998) 0.50 5.8 0.10
Canada (2002) 0.4 2.0 0.04
Finland (2003) 0.35 4.45 0.10
Australia (2001) 0.24 1.34 0.10
France (2001) 0.21 3.4 0.49
England/Wales (2002) 0.15 0.2 0.03
Scotland (2002) 0.06 0.2 0.02
Japan (2002) 0.02 0.04 0

Yeah but how would these crooks get our handguns if we keep them locked up just like our other weapons?

[Scott N]

Originally Posted by fear 666

Yeah but how would these crooks get our handguns if we keep them locked up just like our other weapons?

I think BBBB is a troll, or a wanna be troll at least. Remember, it's your fault because some gang banger wants to pack an illegal handgun. It's the same logic that gave us the gun registry. Just because you own a gun, you might be a danger to society. I saw that on COPS.

[Redfrog]

Better do something about all these women walking around.

Easier access to women means that criminals will have a better selection for rape..

If we burned half the houses it stands to reason that we could cut home invasions in half.

If you burned all your money, wouldn't tat mean there was none for the criminals to steal?

Originally Posted by Scott N

I think BBBB is a troll, or a wanna be troll at least. Remember, it's your fault because some gang banger wants to pack an illegal handgun. It's the same logic that gave us the gun registry. Just because you own a gun, you might be a danger to society. I saw that on COPS.

The last time I looked, this was a general discussion forum that allowed people to state their opinions. I'm sorry that you have a different one. Grow Up

[Scott N]

Originally Posted by BBBB

The last time I looked, this was a general discussion forum that allowed people to state their opinions. I'm sorry that you have a different one. Grow Up

Why are you sorry that my opinion is different than yours is? Because I don't agree, I should "grow up"?

[elkhunter11]

I think that handguns and their use should be kept as is. We have enough problems with crooks and whackos having access to rifles and such.
Handguns are too easy to conceal and our law enforcement agencies would be under increased threat pulling over any vehicles.

It's attitudes like that that resulted in the long gun registration being implemented, and in most of the nonsense gun control restrictions being put into law.

[catnthehat]

I would love to be able to hunt with a hand gun, or to be able to use a small revolver to hunt partridge, dispatch game, etc.
Cat

[Redfrog]

There has to be some kind of gov't payment plan that can be st up for criminals to receive a monthly check. That would do away with their need for stolen handguns and free the way for taxpayers to carry.

[Ryry4]

MY thoughts on handgun restriction. They're stupid. I'd love to be able to open carry a handgun, if you want to conceal it, take a course and get a permit.

[AndrewM]

Originally Posted by BBBB

Handguns are too easy to conceal

I agree with this statement. I cannot say whether any laws should change though as I do not own one and cannot see a use for one for myself.

[Ryry4]

Originally Posted by AndrewM

I agree with this statement. I cannot say whether any laws should change though as I do not own one and cannot see a use for one for myself.

Any weapon can be concealed quite easily. Not just a handgun.

[rugatika]

Trench coats and bath robes make it easy to conceal rifles...ergo they should be banned as well. So do guitar cases.

So ban trench coats, bath robes, guitar cases, coveralls, long back packs as well.

Liberals (liberals) are funny.

[Scott N]

Originally Posted by AndrewM

I agree with this statement. I cannot say whether any laws should change though as I do not own one and cannot see a use for one for myself.

Knives are even easier to conceal, and far, far more crime is committed with knives than are firearms.

[AndrewM]

Originally Posted by Ryry4

Any weapon can be concealed quite easily. Not just a handgun.

Tough to hide my rifle in my jacket!

[AndrewM]

Originally Posted by Scott N

Knives are even easier to conceal, and far, far more crime is committed with knives than are firearms.

Any they are easier to obtain.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by Classic_Cool

Was my understanding that you needed a permit each and every time you transported a handgun somewhere. Maybe I have some bad information.

If you can prove a need...you can obtain a long term ATT that will cover the same time span as your RPAL and you can renew it at the same time you renew your RPAL. I just got all my stuff RPAL and 5 year long term ATT last week. Again you need to "justify" the need to them (Provincial Firearms Officer) Also the one I obtained has province wide coverage.

LC