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I think the red line would be the main. It would be better to analyze in person. Regardless of the score,it’s a beauty! Let’s us know what the the decision was.
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That's a great deer and the easiest way is to have it scored by someone that knows what they are doing, lot's of those guys around, almost every fish and game club has one or two, let us know what the outcome is.
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12-12-2019, 06:04 AM
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I tend to lean towards the red being the main.
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12-12-2019, 06:12 AM
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Red is the main beam....green was thinking about being a drop time next season...should have passed him up 
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12-12-2019, 06:38 AM
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The picture of it front on, on the hood of the ranger sort of shows it best. The ends of both main beams are crab claws (red circles), then both beams have matching drop tines coming off the bottom (green circles), only the one on the left beam isn’t developed.
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That's how I see it as well.
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12-12-2019, 06:46 AM
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On a deer that nice just pick whatever one turns your crank. I know guys like the whole score thing but the character a long with being a big mature deer is more important then the numbers in my books
Good luck figuring it out and congrats again
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12-12-2019, 08:55 AM
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All I know is that I would wet wipe that rack before touching it. 
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12-12-2019, 09:20 AM
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Not judging you, I get it. 
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What a wonderful problem to have.
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An interesting rack in it's own right.
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12-12-2019, 12:57 PM
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Tough to say ..generally the big ridge on the inside of the antler follows the main beam...you going to boil that big sucker already or what?
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Bottom on both sides..nice buck
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12-12-2019, 01:37 PM
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Tough to say ..generally the big ridge on the inside of the antler follows the main beam...you going to boil that big sucker already or what?
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I just met up with Big Lou, after seeing it first hand he is in agreement with that. The red line certainly seems to be the main beams.
I think after I cut off those eye guards they’ll make one hell of a set of rattlers 
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12-12-2019, 02:12 PM
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I think after I cut off those eye guards they’ll make one hell of a set of rattlers
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Yaa right..lol
Can u imagine back in the day some old timers just hanging them in the trees and leaving with only the meat.
I know a guy that did this with a 65” bull moose..
he knows it’s that wide because when he called his son and told him his success and how big the antlers were and that he left the head for the birds because of the tough pack out the next day his son drove the whole 7 hours to the moose grounds to reclaim the prize.... 
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Castor fish and game club measuring day is jan. 11
Bring it by and see what they have to say.
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12-12-2019, 03:07 PM
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I just met up with Big Lou, after seeing it first hand he is in agreement with that. The red line certainly seems to be the main beams.
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now your talking!!!!
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12-12-2019, 03:27 PM
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Castor fish and game club measuring day is jan. 11
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Scoring at many of these events is extremely flawed in many cases. Useless really.
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Red line is the one
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now your talking!!!!
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My thoughts exactly!
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Scoring at many of these events is extremely flawed in many cases. Useless really.
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Yup not official till it’s official. AFGA scoring isn’t official either btw.
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A guy I worked with swore by the European way to score them. Fill a container with water and see how much water is displaced by the antlers when submerged. Was a better way in his opinion as there is no reason for us to subtract something that animal grew.
Seems like a way better system to me also.
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A guy I worked with swore by the European way to score them. Fill a container with water and see how much water is displaced by the antlers when submerged. Was a better way in his opinion as there is no reason for us to subtract something that animal grew.
Seems like a way better system to me also.
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I agree 100%. I’ve always said that a water displacement measurement is the only way to get a true measure of everything an animal grows. My buck would score very well in that platform, with tines as thick as an average sized main beam. An average mature whitetail will generally have between 34”-38” of mass, this one carries over 48” of mass. Ten inches extra doesn’t sound like much until you see it in person, lol. I bet my buck would score dam near 3L..... ha!
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The issue with water displacement system when comparing to B&C is the B&C system is looking fir size and symmetry not just mass .
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I agree 100%. I’ve always said that a water displacement measurement is the only way to get a true measure of everything an animal grows. My buck would score very well in that platform, with tines as thick as an average sized main beam. An average mature whitetail will generally have between 34”-38” of mass, this one carries over 48” of mass. Ten inches extra doesn’t sound like much until you see it in person, lol. I bet my buck would score dam near 3L..... ha!
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With technology this method should be a no brainer.
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Yup not official till it’s official. AFGA scoring isn’t official either btw.
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Took this buck to a horn scoring show. They grossed him in the low 160’s. That was the first and last time I’ll do that.
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Took this buck to a horn scoring show. They grossed him in the low 160’s. That was the first and last time I’ll do that.
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What did you have him at.
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12-12-2019, 06:19 PM
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Took this buck to a horn scoring show. They grossed him in the low 160’s. That was the first and last time I’ll do that.
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At least you got 160’s.
So many guys walk into horn scoring events with 160” deer and walk out with a low 140” score card. Your buck certainly looks bigger than 160” but most times guys think they have a 160” buck when in reality it’s a 140” deer. It takes a big buck to score over 160”.
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Yup you got seriously hosed Chuck! Jimbows Archery both Calgary and Edmonton have reputable official scorers (P&Y and B&C) there for their scoring day. Feb 1st, all are welcome rifle/archery current year or previous years.
I took this old boy there that was hanging in my garage for eons and never had a score. Grossed over 180” and net 173” and change.
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What did you have him at.
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A bunch higher than that. He was officially scored with 20 or so more inches.
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