Using a Drill for Hand Auger - Page 2

HunterDave · #31 10-24-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by parnavi

dave went in to canadian tire and talked to the manager and he ordered me 2 with no probs and told me they will be there at weeks end,, they helped me out~

Thanks! I checked online again today and now the Can Tire closest to me is showing them in stock. I'm going to go there tomorrow and if they can't find one I'm going to leave my phone number and ask them to call me when they get the new stock unpacked.

buckmaster · #32 10-24-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave

Thanks! I checked online again today and now the Can Tire closest to me is showing them in stock. I'm going to go there tomorrow and if they can't find one I'm going to leave my phone number and ask them to call me when they get the new stock unpacked.

walmart in clareview had some on the shelves yesterday.

HunterDave · #33 10-24-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by buckmaster

walmart in clareview had some on the shelves yesterday.

Thanks buckmaster! I'd just like to get the adapter before Saturday. The hunting season starts on that day for me and it'll last until the end of November......lol!

HunterDave · #34 11-17-2011, 02:07 PM

Drill attachment for ice auger update.........

After checking Can Tire over the last month and not having them on the shelf yet, I finally picked up an attachment at Walmart. Two problems with the attachment that needed modifying. First the part that slips into the auger was slightly too large so I had to put the attachment in my drill and file it down to size......no biggy. Secondly, the hole for the pin that screws in did not line up. I just used a large cotter pin to secure the attachment to the auger and it's nice and secure. I sharpened the blades and charged the drill batteries while I was at it so I'm good to go!

I just have to think about putting on that piece that npauls mentioned so I don't lose my auger down the hole.

I'm very familiar with the power of my drill and with how long the batteries last and I'm confident that this is going to work great!

npauls · #35 11-17-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave

Drill attachment for ice auger update.........

After checking Can Tire over the last month and not having them on the shelf yet, I finally picked up an attachment at Walmart. Two problems with the attachment that needed modifying. First the part that slips into the auger was slightly too large so I had to put the attachment in my drill and file it down to size......no biggy. Secondly, the hole for the pin that screws in did not line up. I just used a large cotter pin to secure the attachment to the auger and it's nice and secure. I sharpened the blades and charged the drill batteries while I was at it so I'm good to go!

I just have to think about putting on that piece that npauls mentioned so I don't lose my auger down the hole.

I'm very familiar with the power of my drill and with how long the batteries last and I'm confident that this is going to work great!

You might want to keep the drill on the higher torque lower speed setting if possible. I read online that the higher speed of a drill isn't good for the blades and flite of a hand auger. It will still drill plenty fast enough if your blades are sharp. It would just suck to wreck your auger on the first outing because of something minor like that.

HunterDave · #36 11-17-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by npauls

You might want to keep the drill on the higher torque lower speed setting if possible. I read online that the higher speed of a drill isn't good for the blades and flite of a hand auger. It will still drill plenty fast enough if your blades are sharp. It would just suck to wreck your auger on the first outing because of something minor like that.

Yeah, I figured that, thanks. My Makita has a fast and a slow speed. The fast speed is away too fast IMO.

HunterDave · #37 12-11-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave

I bought one in Walmart a few weeks ago. They also have them in Can Tire but I got tired of waiting for them to be taken from the back and put out. The one that I bought was a little big for the hole in the auger so I had to file it down a bit. Also, the hole for the pin didn't line up so I put a cotter pin in as opposed to the screw in pin that was on the auger. I tried it last week for the first time and it was really hard on my drill batteries. Two batteries on my 18v Makita for one 6" hole 1 foot thick. Someone was nice enough to finish my second hole with a power auger. So far it's not working out well for me but I'm going to charge my batteries and give it another try but I'm going to bring the top part of my hand auger with me the next time.

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Originally Posted by GustavMahler

Did you true your blades? try changing the pitch of your blades by getting some shims under them. Were your blades grabbing or skipping?

I sharpened my blades before the season and I didn't change the pitch or anything. They grabbed very well put it's too much constant force on my drill I think. I ran into this before when I was taking a wire wheel to polish up an old aluminum boat that I was refinishing. I can screw a thousand screws with one battery but when the trigger is held down constantly it drains the battery very fast. I figure that the auger is okay but the drill battery is the problem. I might have to try a lithium one.

Gust · #38 12-11-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave

I sharpened my blades before the season and I didn't change the pitch or anything. They grabbed very well put it's too much constant force on my drill I think. I ran into this before when I was taking a wire wheel to polish up an old aluminum boat that I was refinishing. I can screw a thousand screws with one battery but when the trigger is held down constantly it drains the battery very fast. I figure that the auger is okay but the drill battery is the problem. I might have to try a lithium one.

Can you jury rig off a hotshot battery or get a little capacitor plug thingy and run a plug in drill from a car battery. Or if you could use the electric in tandem with the manual (but you'd need another person),,, urg, and the ice is getting thicker by the day and nothing worse than having to ask favors on the ice.

HunterDave · #39 12-11-2011, 01:27 PM

I'll sort something out. I don't want to rely on the help of someone else or the truck battery because I'd sooner walk in. I'm going to take the top part of the hand auger with me the next time along with the drill and spare batteries. If the batteries drain as fast the next time I'll finish the holes by hand. If I get tired of doing it that way I guess that I'll just have to break down and invest in a power auger.

silverdoctor · #40 12-11-2011, 05:08 PM

Have (had) a black and decker 18V drill, managed 2 holes on 2 batteries before I started smelling smoke. This drill can torque pretty good but just didn't cut it.

The auger kept moving around, wound up with an 8 inch hole before finally getting through but the auger itself is a 6".

Maybe I need some practice with it.

HunterDave · #41 12-11-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Have (had) a black and decker 18V drill, managed 2 holes on 2 batteries before I started smelling smoke. This drill can torque pretty good but just didn't cut it.

Black & Decker makes economy class tools so I'm not surprised that it started to burn out. A Dewalt might work better than my Makita because I think that it has higher torque. The battery in my Makita lasts longer drilling in screws but the Dewalt puts them in quicker. A cordless impact driver might do better than a drill.

camshaft · #42 12-11-2011, 07:36 PM

Best bet would be to get a commercial drill. Call it overkill, but really a 36v drill shud be used.

Can it be done with less, absolutely. Is your drill going to last a long time...nope

HunterDave · #43 12-11-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by camshaft

Best bet would be to get a commercial drill. Call it overkill, but really a 36v drill shud be used.

Can it be done with less, absolutely. Is your drill going to last a long time...nope

Yeah, you're right about the drill size but I'd have no other use for a 36v drill other than using it for the auger. Price wise, I'd probably be better off buying a gas powered auger.

camshaft · #44 12-11-2011, 07:56 PM

agreed. Im sure a 36v dewalt is north of 5 bills these days

lund17 · #45 12-19-2011, 11:49 AM

I have been thinking about this idea for awhile and went ahead with it this weekend. Bought the cheapest auger i could find, a 8" Eskimo Hand Ice Auger. Went down to work and the machine shop made a 18" extension, I made sure to keep a shoulder on the shaft. Milled the end to fit in my 1/2" drive 18V cordless drill. Got a 10" piece of flat bar and drilled a hole in the middle. I put the flat bar on the shaft which will butt up against the shoulder of the extension than insert the extension into the auger. I did this to ensure if the extension falls out of the drill, I won't loose everything down the hole. I drilled 16 holes through 15" of ice at Calling Lake this weekend before the battery died. This will work slick when I need to drill inside of my ice hut. Only one problem, my dad was with me and he wants the same thing now.

HunterDave · #46 12-19-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lund17

I drilled 16 holes through 15" of ice at Calling Lake this weekend before the battery died.

What kind/power of drill and battery?

Jiffy10 · #47 12-19-2011, 01:28 PM

St. Albert Can Tire had two on the shelf on friday night...

just an FYI

Sundancefisher · #48 12-19-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GustavMahler

Does it have a torque handle attachment? A good auger has it's weight and good blades to cut through the ice. I've never tried a hand drill but somehow it seems it will make ice fishing a bit of a stuggle, what diameter auger can it turn. Maybe a good porter cable drill.

Welcome to the brightside Luke, and not to spoil it but Sundance is your Father.

ROTFLMAO...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULE4I1j0hv0

Welcome home son.

Make sure what ever you use has a way to stop your blade from going to the bottom...it will come off once in a while...

lund17 · #49 12-25-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterDave

What kind/power of drill and battery?

i have a makita 1/2" drive 18 volt drill.

HunterDave · #50 12-25-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lund17

i have a makita 1/2" drive 18 volt drill.

Do you have a lithium battery or the regular red coloured one? I'm thinking lithium.

trouty · #51 12-25-2011, 07:28 PM

make sure you have the right kind of auger for the adapter. The one I bought will not work for a normark.

HunterDave · #52 12-25-2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by trouty

make sure you have the right kind of auger for the adapter. The one I bought will not work for a normark.

I had the same problem. I put the adapter in the drill chuck, turned it on and took a file to it until it fit the auger hole. My next problem was lining up the holes in the auger and the adapter for the pin. I couldn't get it to happen so I just put a cotter pin in the hole instead of the original 1/4" threaded pin. It worked like a charm. Redneck ice fishing!

lund17 · #53 01-02-2012, 09:41 PM

Here is a picture of my drill and ice auger. I have noticed that battery life goes way down on cold days. I can only could get 8 holes out of a battery on sunday morning when it was -20 at calling lake.

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Sundancefisher · #54 01-15-2012, 10:42 AM

bought 3

http://www.basspro.com/Ice-Master-Ic...SSSELL_PRODUCT

direct from the supplier.

I found my old one was stripping pretty badly after a couple seasons. My best guess as to why is because I have a 1/2 18 V drill...and my old one was a 3/8 inch. The new ones I bought are all 1/2 inch and I did not feel the same slippage issues.

Therefore for anyone going this route...buy a 1/2 connector...not the 3/8 to go with a 1/2 18 or 24 V drill.

Just a thought

Sun

Please note I was careful to tighten regularly...but getting jammed in the hole can torque it lose.

Also go to Canadian Tire and buy the smallest bungie cord you can buy. The one it comes with is bad.